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2004/05/15, 06:14 AM
Yes, I'm treading a fine line between getting maximum bodyfat for June the 1st and landing up in the coronary care unit :love::angry:, but these are the sacrifices I'm prepared to make :)
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2004/05/15, 11:47 AM
DEEP FRIED PIZZA! As long as it is fried in vegetable oil, because then you are getting a vegetable serving also!:laugh:
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"A will finds a way, failure is not an option"
Ivan
carivan@freetrainers.com
Montreal Canada
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2004/05/16, 12:18 AM
I went to body comp..
Looks to me that I have work to do. Lots of it.
Im up for a challenge.
Time to lose the BF
Time to put up some weight
Is is June 1st yet? :big_smile:
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2004/05/16, 01:01 AM
Hello, I am definitely interested in the June challenge. I need to get in more cardio and more resistance training. I have started doing more already, but I can use that extra added boost. Count me in. :big_smile:
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2004/05/16, 02:53 AM
carivan, do the grapes in red wine count as fruit serving?
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2004/05/16, 01:22 PM
Absolutely Princess, now you understand!:big_smile::laugh:
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"A will finds a way, failure is not an option"
Ivan
carivan@freetrainers.com
Montreal Canada
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2004/05/16, 01:26 PM
I read a post by BB1 a while back saying cocoa was full of antioxidants. Be sure that you eat chocolate chip cookies by the kilo.
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/05/16, 01:59 PM
And if they have lard in them, you are getting a meat serving at the same time! wow!
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"A will finds a way, failure is not an option"
Ivan
carivan@freetrainers.com
Montreal Canada
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2004/05/16, 02:10 PM
Well. like I said, I am eating lard and tootsie pops for breakfast.
Lynda Marie and Tic. These are advanced psyche out diets. Do not try them at home. We are all just trying to find out if everyone here is as stupid as we look.I know I am. We don't know about the princess. She won't submit a picture.
Welcome to all the newcomers. Be sure to get your entry info in to me or datdanigirl. We are happy that you have joined the madness.
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/05/16, 05:42 PM
Charlie...I found out that sangria has fruit in it....so there are the carbs!
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"A will finds a way, failure is not an option"
Ivan
carivan@freetrainers.com
Montreal Canada
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2004/05/16, 06:49 PM
Ivan, Elaine likes a little absolut in her sangria. Does that reduce carbs?????
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/05/16, 06:51 PM
After reading some of the other posts, I'm almost tempted to drop out. :cool: There is no way I can keep up with everyone else. I just started and I would hate to drop out.I want to get in the challenge to lose some body fat. And to gain some strength. I just need to be motivated to exercise consistantly for 5 days per week and do resistance for 3 days. That's my own personal challenge. I know it might like sound like a lot to others, but for me being as heavy as I am, it's a lot to me.:big_smile: I plan on hanging in there and doing this. Thanks everybody for all your help.
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2004/05/16, 07:00 PM
Lynnda Maree, sorry I mispelled your name before. If you drop out , all the psychos will harrass you. Just kidding. All of us are at different levels. Rookies have the best chance of winning. The longer you have been into this the harder the gains become.
This talk is all in fun. The group will encourage you when the going gets tough. What do you have to lose?? As the head geezer here, it makes my little heart go pitter pat when one of these yahoos come up with a decent geezer joke. I promise to hold my own with them . You can too. If you lose some inches , you win!!!!
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/05/16, 10:05 PM
Hey LynndaMaree.....What do you mean "you will have to drop out" no way, once your in, your in,otherwise I will have to.
Ok,your gonna have all the motivation you need, and like Uncle Charlie sid, it will be easy for you. Even me, I haven't trained for 5 weeks now, so when I start June 1st, I'll be a beginner again. Have fun and join the fray!:big_smile:
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"A will finds a way, failure is not an option"
Ivan
carivan@freetrainers.com
Montreal Canada
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2004/05/16, 11:47 PM
SH**
Today my shoulder dislocated...something that hasn't happened in a while. and on top of that, i forgot that i have a doctors appointment about my shoulder for the day after i get back in town....(may 19th)...i do not want surgery, and i don't know what the verdict will be yet. This sucks soo bad.
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2004/05/17, 12:00 AM
awww, tex, i'm sorry! keep us updated on how things are going - i don't want to lose my favorite member of team texas!
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success comes before work only in the dictionary. that's right.
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2004/05/17, 12:31 AM
WHHHHAAAAATTTT.....
Darn it Charlie!!! I was taking all of your advice. Eating the same things as you. Now I find out that it is not good.
Well no wonder you say you will win.
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2004/05/17, 02:22 AM
Can you do that shoulder thing like Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon? My friend can do that, his shoulder gets out of whack when he has too much to drink and gets down in a three-point stance to charge non-moving objects. What were you up to Tex??
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2004/05/17, 03:27 AM
charlie, I tried to upload a pic but the ft site wouldn't have it - I think I'll need to lose more weight before the image is condensed enough to be uploaded.
I noticed on the side of my coke can that it's made with "vegetable extracts" - another serving, surely?
Tex, get well soon and if all else fails take your second shoulder measurement on August 1st with your shoulder out it's socket for maximum gains in shoulder size :)
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2004/05/17, 08:37 AM
So, we instant message which stats to who? I am not trying to be dense, but could you list what info we need to send to who?
I am going to raise my bench, deadlift and squats and lower my bodyfat %, all while patting my head and rubbing my tummy simultaneously...:big_smile:
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2004/05/17, 08:44 AM
Amy - I believe we send our BF% to Charlie and the other stats to datanigirl. Someone please correct me if I am wrong:big_smile:
Looks like I will be competing against you :) And me, I will not only pat my head and rub my tummy, I intend to hop on one leg to :)
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2004/05/17, 08:59 AM
NO need to drop out Lynnda! The challenge is calibrated so that no matter your goals there is a category for you. :cool:
It's the spirit of competition that is key here -- to get motivated and make a commitment to yourself; and see just what you can accomplish in two months when you set your mind to it.
Believe me we have entrants at EVERY level, you will not be alone.
Amy, send me your body weight and 1 rep maxes (as calculated here on FT) for whichever lifts you wish to compete in. The three for overall strength are bench, dead and squat, and we can add any other lifts that there is interest in (chins have been requested already).
Tex, sounds like we need to add the leg press so you can compete in something!!
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Action may not always bring happiness, but there is no happiness without action.
~Benjamin Disraeli
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2004/05/17, 09:23 AM
Mybodycomp.com is only a tool. It is not accurate for measuring body fat. Only body fat calipers are accurate but everyone doesn't have those. We are using mybodycomp.com because everybody has access. The numbers will atleast be consistant and the measurements will be dead bang. DON'T PANIC WHEN YOUR BF% SEEMS REALLY HIGH!!!!!!
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Charlie
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2004/05/17, 10:17 AM
Shoulder status: you can see some bruising...movement limited temporarily...happens each time.
Yeah...i used to have bad shoulder ish...my left shoulder i can pop out of socket on command, so when i do shrugs...i can't let my shoulders down all the way or it goes out....however my right shoulder hadn't come out in a while...but i picked up something for mom and dad when they came to help start packing me up...and when i got it up...i was sitting there..and when i rotated my arm, i felt a pop. i'll pop in some aleve...gotta run now...last exam now
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2004/05/17, 11:27 AM
Well I am taking a week off from lifting. I finished a grueling 8 week cycle and it's time for some much needed rest. When I am back in the gym I am on my way to victory in the challenge :cool:(muaah muaah)
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I am that
which must be feared, worshipped and adored. The world is mine
now and forever.No one holds command over me. No man. No god. I am ANIMAL! and that is enough.
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2004/05/18, 07:43 AM
Thanks so much for the encouragement. I'm not going to drop out. I refuse to give up before I even start. Thanks again Charlie,Carivan and datdanigirl for all of your kinds words of encouragement. I can't wait until June 1st gets here.:big_smile::love:
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2004/05/19, 12:05 PM
HHHMMMMMMMMM, not much activity here. I have receiced 4 or 5 sets of stats. Don't know what Dani has gotten.
First off welcome to the new folks. The more we have participating, the better. Everybody should know there are events like the 3 lift category all the way to simple weight loss or measurement changes. That means all levels of folk can play and expect a reasonably balanced field. I think the only one we need to watch is her highness from Scotland. She may bend the rules a bit.
To those already participating ,be sure that you mention the Challange to other FT ers who may be interested. If you don't want any of your statistical info posted, DON'T send it. For now I will only post BF% when the contest starts in an effort to save bandwidth.
The diminsional competition will be scored like this.
Each good increase like chest, biceps, calves, thighs etc will be given 1 point per 1/4 " change. I understand Ivan {Carivan}is quite Einstienien and volunteer him to help those who need it.LOL
Each good decrease will be scored the same way. Eg. 1/4 inch off the waist, abdomen, head etc will be given 1 point.
You will have to score yourself. I think its too much for 1 person to keep up with. Send me point updates every 2 weeks. At the end of the Challange send me your stats again and I will verify your results.
On BF% send those updates every 2 weeks. For now the BF% is all I will post except to give updates on who is in the point lead on measurement competition. You new to fitness folk have a huge advantage here because you will shead inches and BF% faster than those who have been doing it a while.
Asimmer and Hec da rec will be the enforcers if anybody wants to quit, cheat, whine, moan, cry, or stray from their diet. You don't want to get on their bad sides. Uh, well actually every side is bad but you get my drift.
We need to chat this thing up, get your entries in, and keep those cards and letters coming. I also invite all moderators as well as George and Adrian to play
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Charlie
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2004/05/19, 12:49 PM
Well I know why most are not posting...they realize that I am in the fray and that is that! Muuuhahahahahah
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LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2004/05/19, 01:56 PM
We'll see if your bite is as good as your bark Mutt! :big_smile:
I suspect most people are waiting until June 1st to send in their stats. I have received from about 8 people.
Be advised I am going to Florida next week, gone from the 26th to the 31st so anything sent to me in that timeframe will be read and entered on June 1st.. send away!!
Here's what I have entrants in:
Body Weight
Bench Press
Deadlift
Squat
Overall Strength (combination of the three above)
Stifflegged Deadlift
Bicep Curl (dumbbell)
Leg Press
Chin-ups (need feedback from you all if this is wide or narrow, or if pull-ups are preferred instead)
ALL of the above categories will be calculated two ways:
1.) highest percent of body mass (math is shown in separate post)
2.)great increase in percent of body mass from June 1 to Aug 1
So.. Come One, Come All.. to the GREAT Mutt Challenge of 2004, coming to a big top near YOU on June 1st!! Get your stats and send 'em in folks, it's all about the fun of it!!
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The deepest rivers flow with the least sound.
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2004/05/19, 02:06 PM
You da woman Dani!!!
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/05/19, 02:06 PM
WOOF Muttersnapper!!!
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/05/19, 02:17 PM
Dumbell curls? How is that a lift? So what we get a increase in that lift and win how? Man I am confused so many choices!
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LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2004/05/19, 08:20 PM
I think that the second lot is optional. The big three are part of the comp. for everyone to participate in. (Besides body fat % folks) I will also be participating in the pullup competition. I'm almost on my way to getting 10 consistently.
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2004/05/20, 03:41 AM
I can't do any pull ups at the moment. If I managed one by the end of July would that be an infinite% increase and therefore I would win hands down?
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2004/05/20, 09:02 AM
well I can raise myself partially up princess.. so I guess I'm starting from .5?
David has it on the second lot, there are a few people who aren't in a position to compete in the major lifts, they're starting from more of a 'scratch' position and requested some more basic exercises to improve on.
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2004/05/20, 10:00 AM
Ok lets set something staight here Uncle Charlie.....
I'm no Einstine. The govenment converted us to that damn metric stuff 30 yrs ago. All I know is a litre of gas is 99.9 cents. If you convert that to real numbers, it's roughly 4.50 a gallon cdn.
But..I will be glad to convert anybody. (from metric to imperial).
I will send you my stats charlie for the bf% eventually some time today or night.
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"A will finds a way, failure is not an option"
Ivan
carivan@freetrainers.com
Montreal Canada
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2004/05/20, 11:36 AM
Dani and I conspired on this stuff with total Mutt confusion in mind. We knew there would be no GEO lifting category so we came up with the "baffle 'em with BS " approach. Looks like we succeeded. MMMWWWWUUUUHHHHHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
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Dumbell curls? How is that a lift? So what we get a increase in that lift and win how? Man I am confused so many choices!
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Charlie
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2004/05/20, 12:03 PM
Watch it or I might come down there and eat you pet buffalo!
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LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2004/05/20, 12:05 PM
mmmm, buffalo...
sorry charlie, it's just so good!
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2004/05/20, 12:05 PM
Thats a thought... buffalo tipping.
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/05/20, 02:01 PM
Can I ask a silly question here ...
on leg day during the challange will I just do squats and dead lifts as well as calves . MY ft program calls for 2 leg exercises plus calves on leg day ..I really am starting from scratch on these two lifts ,and for squat I will be starting with ball squats as I am having problem with getting the feeling for proper form..
thanks
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"If you are going to walk on thin ice you might as well dance"
angelsnow@freetrainers.com
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2004/05/20, 02:30 PM
And we have found a new category. I only wonder if I can compete in that. I have never seen a buffalo in these parts.
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2004/05/20, 03:51 PM
Anni,the silly questions are the ones not asked. Most of the FT workouts have a leg day which will have for instance squats, lunges, leg extensions, leg curls etc. This day very often includes straight leg dead lift because that movement taxes the glutes and hams as well as the lower back. On your back/shoulder day you may see deadlifts along with shoulder and back movements. The deadlift works a different assortment of muscles but also glutes, hams, and lower back.
On both of those days, calves can be worked. Most of the FT routines stress working one muscle group per week to allow for recovery. The muscles in the legs ,abs, and back recover quicker because they are used in day to day activity and they can take the extra wear and tear.
As always with any lifting you will be better off lifting lighter and perfecting your form. You won't have a problem at the gym finding somebody to help you.Form is everything.Weight comes later. Hope this helps
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/05/20, 03:52 PM
david, you could always substitue snipe hunting for buffalo tipping. i think it will be equally challenging and snipe are abundant in every part of the world.
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2004/05/21, 03:22 AM
We don't have buffalo here in Scotland, will haggis tipping suffice?
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2004/05/21, 09:41 AM
How exactly do you just tip the sheep's stomach?
I think you have to tip those big, shaggy red scottish bovines (I can't recall the name)
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2004/05/21, 09:49 AM
Eewwwwwwww...Haggs, once tried it was great until one of my friends (supposedly) told me what I ate!
I'll stick to eel, thanks. Try tipping an eel!
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"A will finds a way, failure is not an option"
Ivan
carivan@freetrainers.com
Montreal Canada
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2004/05/21, 11:07 AM
You have no idea how difficult it was to just leave the eel thing alone. Between that and haggis my poor little head was exploding with juvenile innuendo. Very painful but I'll be brave and move on. :big_smile::big_smile::big_smile:
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/05/21, 02:02 PM
Highland cattle, asimmer, that's what I'll tip! thankyou, these boys will not get me out the competition that easily!
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2004/05/21, 03:01 PM
I see this post is traveling along to utter ruin nicely LOL
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LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL!
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