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2006/08/15, 09:17 AM
I got my new weights yesterday...girlie(not girlie enough to be pink,but pretty light weight)..and I did my complex routine...5 sets 8 reps 30 second rest...deadlift, romanian dead lift, squats, morning glory,and some arm stuff...don't know what their called...all with a 20 pound(plus 9 for the bar)weight(no laughing gentelemen I'm new to this and trying)so on to my dumb question...
Why do my INNER thighs hurt today???Not terrible but it is defineatly there.Not that I'm complaining,love to work the inner thigh....just wondering why since I didn't feel I worked them,and I'm not sore anywhere else.
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2006/08/15, 09:23 AM
You actually did a lot of leg work; squats, DL's, good mornings (I assume that's what morning glory is:) ) Because they are complex moves, they work many muscles. It was likely the squats that worked the inner thigh the most. BTW...these are all great exercises!
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2006/08/15, 09:27 AM
hehe...gotta laugh at myself....I always call those things morning glory...when I do them I think of the sun coming up...so I do it nice and slow and strong!!I just expected the stiffness in my hamstrings..not my inner thighs...Thanks fly!!:)
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2006/08/15, 09:32 AM
I think I like the morning glory name better. I'm sure it'll be stuck in my head now and will make me smile everytime I do them-lol. I too find that squats work my inner thighs, epecially if I have my feet pointed outwards with a fairly wide stance.
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2006/08/15, 09:36 AM
Ahhh..that must be it...I put my feet pretty wide so I make sure I'm keeping the weight in my heels,for some reason it's easier for me that way!:)
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2006/08/15, 09:38 AM
Deadlifts work your adductors. So not surprising. Deadlifts are a big exercise and work just about all muscles in the legs and back whether directly or indirectly...
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2006/08/15, 09:38 AM
That is your natural stance and is a good thing to find. Nice Job!
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
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2006/08/15, 09:47 AM
first time around didnt see u doing squats...but yea they also work your adductors...
I think you got the right idea KC but you're doing too big many exerices...I would maybe work on lifting more weight....doesnt need to be much more than you're lifting...it just has to be challenging enough for you....If you can do more than 10 reps then increase the weight(dont worry about the weight used, it's more about the relative intensity...20lb maybe more challenging to you than 200lb for someone else...)....If you can, get a barbell set....you can be surprised how easy it is to gain strength on the deadlift/hack squats...
I would pick a variation of deadlift, squat or goodmorning and do them....and pair less challenging exercises ....perhaps overhead presses or bench dips and chin ups...and curls...you get the idea...I would be passed out on the ground I did squats, 2 deadlift exercises and then GMs....lol
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2006/08/15, 09:51 AM
This is a fast paced complex of exercises that she is doing menace. Steve gave it to me and she is trying it out. You use very light weight. I used just 65lbs when I do them.
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
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2006/08/15, 09:53 AM
oh....figures....so it's like a giant set with high reps?
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2006/08/15, 09:56 AM
Not to high 8 exercises 6-8 reps done 6 times in giant set form. Kicks ass!
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
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2006/08/15, 10:04 AM
is it for conditioning?
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2006/08/15, 10:13 AM
Yes overall GPP type of training. Cardio at its best.
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
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2006/08/15, 10:17 AM
cool. yea i got a feeling it was some form of GPP....cardio at its best indeed.....
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2006/08/15, 10:38 AM
Check out this Randy Couture workout http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3224902600571518938&q=randy+couture , no wonder he was able to sustain such a high level of energy for his fights.
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2006/08/15, 11:46 AM
yeah...mutt gave these to me as a challenge a bit ago...said I was a sissy 'cause I didn't want to try it....but now I REALLY like it!!!I am going to work on adding the weight...right now working on perfecting the movement so I don't hurt myself...I did get the barbell,that's what I started using yesterday...I know it doesn't sound like it with the 9lb bar..but believe it or not,it is!!I couldn't lift the 45 lb bar(very embarrasing...had a chat with mutt about it)so I went with the smaller for now.My goal right now....to take Mutts lunch money...my own "awe and hunger":big_smile:
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2006/08/15, 01:48 PM
Good for you KC, you'll get Mutts lunch money in no time. Don't feel embarrased about not lifting a 45lb BB. I've only started lifting it within the past few months. It took me a long time to build up all the stabalizer muscles to handle it without wobbling it all over the place. The first time I tried with a trainer he just took it away and wouldn't let me lift it until I was stronger:big_smile: Now I'm starting to add a bit of wt to it. It is really smart to start small to build the stabalizers and perfect your form. You better watch out Mutt...she sounds hungry:angry:
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2006/08/15, 01:52 PM
LOL BRING IT ON! I will still be able to hold you all off! Muuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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2006/08/15, 01:53 PM
ANd for that matter I have nomoney for lunch I bag it in and by noon most of it is gone!
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The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
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2006/08/15, 01:55 PM
uh-oh....we got the evil laugh!!!!
You may be able to hold us off now...but hang on to your
tu-tu pal...we're after you!!!
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2006/08/15, 02:43 PM
Mutt, have you been passing on complexes???
I only reserve these for people I don't like. I've got the RIT Wrestling Team doing them twice a week in preparation for the upcoming season, alternating between the complex I gave you and an olympic complex. (No I am not participating, just training).
Just started in preparation for the rugby season. I had forgotten how difficult it is to do an olympic complex. I can do the standard complex easily with 85lbs, but 65lbs with the olympic complex destroyed me.
Menace, this is not meant for any form of strength training. It is a form of lactic acid tolerance training, and it burns a TON of calories in a very short period of time as well as eliciting a powerful growth hormone response.
It will melt fat off, but more importantly, it teaches the muscles to get used to high output conditioning (hence why they are becoming popular among MMA fighters). I usually reserve them for more advanced individuals that have a better grasp on the movements.
You guys would be surprised what other tricks I have up my sleeve.
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2006/08/15, 02:47 PM
Thats pretty much exactly what it is. You then rest for 45-90 seconds (week 1 is 90 seconds, week 2 is 75, etc) and then repeat the set.
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Check out this Randy Couture workout http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3224902600571518938&q=randy+couture , no wonder he was able to sustain such a high level of energy for his fights.
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2006/08/15, 03:29 PM
hhhmmm....been preaching this method for weight/fat loss for quite a long time. Trying to steal some thunder guys?? :big_smile::laugh::big_smile:
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Menace, this is not meant for any form of strength training. It is a form of lactic acid tolerance training, and it burns a TON of calories in a very short period of time as well as eliciting a powerful growth hormone response.
It will melt fat off, but more importantly, it teaches the muscles to get used to high output conditioning (hence why they are becoming popular among MMA fighters). I usually reserve them for more advanced individuals that have a better grasp on the movements.
You guys would be surprised what other tricks I have up my sleeve.
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2006/08/15, 04:17 PM
I don't usually recommend it for fat loss except in trained individuals. For the most part, all the wrestlers I am training use it, as well as a few other athletes. One of the guys on the weightlifting team is doing it to improve his overall fitness level without sacrificing strength levels.
I'm not taking credit for inventing it, but I started using this type of training about 2 years ago in preparation for the national greco-roman wrestling championship. Closest thing I could find to real wrestling.
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2006/08/15, 04:24 PM
I just do it because it's fun...I like it and I feel like I'm getting a real workout.If I start over analyzing it..and think about WHY I should or shouldn't be doing it...I get myself in trouble.So I don't do it for fat loss,or strength training...it's fun is all.
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2006/08/15, 06:34 PM
Very interesting approach. Do you combine it with any other strength work?...if it's done for GPP and conditioning how can it retain one's strength levels for extended period of time?...how many days a week is it done? can it be used for active recovery?
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2006/08/15, 08:17 PM
With my wrestlers, I have them do it twice a week after they dynamic training day (which is shorter in nature), or after drilling.
I wouldn't use it for active recovery, as there are much better things to do. Too much lactic acid build up for true recovery purposes.
And it doesn't tax the CNS, and the load is low enough that after a few weeks, there is little damage done to the muscles.
Besides that, I don't do conditioning for an "extended period of time". In the off season, conditioning is neglected to prioritze strength and technique development.
It takes much less time to reach peak conditioning than peak strength.
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2006/08/15, 08:17 PM
also you should know by now that all those questions depend on what you are doing for a strength regime.
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