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2005/10/22, 01:43 PM
Susan Aldridge, PhD
Experts say that if current trends continue, every child in the US will be obese by 2044 and every adult by 2058.
There has been a dramatic increase in obesity in the USA in recent years. Researchers at the University of Missouri-Columbia put this down to an incompatibility between human genes and societal messages. We are getting less exercise but our genes were made to support a good deal of physical activity. The result - obesity. Experiments in rats carried out by these experts showed that 48 hours of inactivity will lead to an increase in the amount of fat and fat cells in the body.
In human terms, decreasing the amount of activity by less than four minutes a day can result in a person gaining a pound of fat a year. We must, therefore, do more to keep active and, indeed, increase activity levels.
Source: American College of Sports Medicine meeting 1st June 2005
:dumbbell: I think about this on those days when I'm feeling lazy and don't want to work-out. I also think that when I have children the best way to keep them from obesity is to be healthy myself. :dumbbell:
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2005/10/22, 03:01 PM
There are studies that show that at the current rate of increase, every man woman and child will be overweight by 2035!
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2005/10/22, 06:01 PM
Damn, I better get eating if I want to keep up with the norm.
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To have talent is to have limits. I have no talent therefor I have no limits.
Steve Prefontaine
If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
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2005/10/22, 06:42 PM
I dont see how this is possible.
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2005/10/22, 06:58 PM
First off, it's just statistics, so there will always be a percentage that won't EVER fall into this category. Alot of us on this site fall into this category.
However, just look around you when you go to the mall, the grocery store, the movies or simply drive around and look at how busy fast food "restaurants" are. There are so many unhealthy, dysfunctional and sick people in our country that it's beyond epidemic. It's more of the norm now than it was even 10 to 20 years ago (Over 65% of America is already overweight and/or obese)! There's so many studies and reviews that show some of the most horrifying looks into the health of America that as a health educator, many times, I feel helpless.
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2005/10/22, 07:26 PM
If there are percentages that wont EVER fall into this category why does the report say EVERY child will be obese by 2044 and EVERY adult by 2058?
When I go to the mall I notice that video game stores are busy, so I should ascertain that by 2044 every child will be a violent animal.
The cynic in me does not believe these "studies" that are conducted on rats no less. Anybody can make a study look the way they want it too by using some numbers and some rats. I wouldnt be surprised if the doctor who wrote that study is in the gastric bypass business.
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2005/10/22, 09:13 PM
its based on a linear occasion. basicly, saying that if it continues the way it has continued, but that is impossible for it to continue that way.
but yea, its BS. Even as a powerlifter, I refuse to be a part of that statistic.
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To have talent is to have limits. I have no talent therefor I have no limits.
Steve Prefontaine
If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
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2005/10/22, 09:26 PM
You're being overly-critical of these posts.
These are statistics (that I'm reffering to) based on what is currently happening in this country and at the RATE we are going, STATISTICALLY we will all be overweight. These stats go by the increase in the population per year, not on rats. I'm with you in not believing the studies on rats, but it's undeniable that our country is becoming increasingly overweight. Hell, I don't need a study or statistical review to know that.
Outside of the gym (and even in the gym), this country is in desperate need of real health education that isn't funded by the big food manufacturers.
Simply go to scholar.google.com and research these trends and you'll find that it's not just gastric bypass surgeons that are reporting this.
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2005/10/22, 09:32 PM
And like I stated before....there will always be people like us that won't fall into this statistic. But I can see the percentage rise into the 90's, which may be unbelievable for some, but when you're in my career, it's actually more likely than ever before.
In my opinion, convenience is primarily what is killing the health of this country (and modernized civilization, for that matter). Fast food, cars, chairs, sedentary jobs and schools, ect.
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2005/10/22, 09:48 PM
Nellyboy-
its hec. He's allowed to be overlycritical about anything he wants.
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2005/10/22, 09:52 PM
It's one thing to be overly critical, it's another to blind yourself from the truth. Believe me, I'm not one for buying into a study simply because it's "peer-reviewed," however, I LOVE statistics and reviews of numerous studies! I truly believe that these give us a much bigger picture than one, ten or even a hundred "isolation-based" studies can ever do.
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2005/10/23, 03:24 AM
Blind yourself from the truth??? So you are agreeing with this study??? I have taken calculus based statistics... This trend is based on a linear curve, however, a linear based curve can not reach a point of absolutism when dealing with statistics. Eventually, the rate will have to slow down.
As for the truth... I don't need a study to tell me america is getting fatter...I can go to the local gym for that.
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To have talent is to have limits. I have no talent therefor I have no limits.
Steve Prefontaine
If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
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2005/10/23, 07:25 AM
I am not being overly critical of the study. The study says that EVERY child and EVERY adult will be overweight. Then you turn around and say that of course people like us will not fall into this category. So which one is it? That is like saying that in 20 years every american will have HIV (well except for the ones who use condomns). And dont say that I am blinding myself from the truth. All of this garbage is about money. You cant convince me otherwise.
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2005/10/23, 10:48 AM
Well, I believe it's possible. My PARENTS refuse to stop buying unhealthy things and REFUSE to take me to the park and stuff so we can do active things together. My whole family refuses to start living in a healthier way. I'm the only one who would like to change now and be healthy. Most of my friends and their families are the same way. A lot of people just want to sit around all day and it makes me sick....
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2005/10/23, 11:30 AM
I am not disputing that there is an obesity problem today. I am disputing the fact that EVERY person will be obese in 40 years or whatever the "statistics" say.
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2005/10/23, 11:31 AM
And Stella just because your parents REFUSE to do active things with you doesnt mean that you shouldnt be healthy. That is a cop out.
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2005/10/23, 12:21 PM
Look we are talking about sematics here! Of course not every single person in this country WILL be overweight, but it's showing us that at the rate that we're going, almost everyone would be. AT THE RATE WE'RE GOING. If you worked with as many unhealthy overweight people that I and many in this business have worked with, you'd know that this is a real possiblity.
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2005/10/23, 12:26 PM
Taking a moment to step aside from the usage of absolute terminology in the American College of Sports Medicine summary extracts…
What are your thoughts on how the obesity trend/epidemic IS and WILL affect you life? I think most folks have noticed the number of larger folks when out and about. The most interesting/thought provoking statements in the article for me were:
“There has been a dramatic increase in obesity in the USA in recent years. Researchers at the University of Missouri-Columbia put this down to an incompatibility between human genes and societal messages.”
So, living in a culture that supports and promotes obesity;
I have noticed that I’ve had to fight to take my entire hour for lunch (so I could eat and work out) because my boss couldn’t understand why it is important to exercise more than once a day.
I’ve noticed my friends’ kids struggle with weight issues while they battle the lure of fast food restaurants and pre-packaged meals. And they are trying to fight the temptation to just collapse after work instead of getting the whole family up and out of the house for evening exercise.
I’ve noticed it’s really hard to order a proportionate meal anywhere.
I’ve noticed that there are junk food commercials on ALL the time, especially during kid cartoon time.
I’ve noticed most times my friends want to go out the evening is food oriented (dinner, drinks, coffee, movie popcorn…etc).
Like many people here I’ve changed my lifestyle and lost quite a bit of weight. In the process I’ve struggled with the issues of creating and maintaining a healthy lifestyle in our current culture. There is so much you have to watch out for and combat that in my efforts towards a healthy/active lifestyle I am not only fighting to change my own personal habits but also the combined cultural habits of everyone in my community.
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2005/10/23, 03:48 PM
There's a great book on this exact subject called, "Do Not Eat This Book," by Morgan Spurlock. Yup the same guy who starred and directed "Super Size Me."
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2005/10/24, 07:06 AM
i just looked at an excerpt of this book on the net....seems pretty interesting! (even though i aint american). im gonna buy it :)
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Quoting from nellyboy:
There's a great book on this exact subject called, "Do Not Eat This Book," by Morgan Spurlock. Yup the same guy who starred and directed "Super Size Me."
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2005/10/24, 11:16 AM
To put a positive slant on things...I think the general population is getting much more aware of healthy living. When I compare who was working out 20 years ago to who is working out now I see a huge increase in the numbers. I also see alot more younger people in the gyms along with many seniors. I think the trend for healthier "fast foods" is good-certainly better than it was, and I think kids today are getting better educated in the area of health and fitness- through school, thru TV and thru sites like this on the internet. I for one do not believe that everyone will be obese in 40 years. I think there is a growing trend towards healthy living and of course industry is jumping on the bandwagon to make money from it, but at least it is starting to move in a better direction!
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2005/10/24, 07:05 PM
I just saw a gym called Cardio Kids as I was driving home from work today... totally cool!
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2005/10/25, 12:36 PM
I know for a fact that there are alot more fat people (let's call it what it is) than ever before, especially teenagers. At the same time, however, one problem with the obesity statistics is that most use the BMI, which is basically worthless.
Take a look at the drastic increase any of the health problems associated with being fat: orthopaedic, heart disease, lung disease, diabetes, etc, etc. Take a look at the increase in the health club and supplement industries. Take a look the next time you're out in public. Fattness is increasing dramatically, and it needs to be address. Just don't spout off worthless statistics - we need to do something about it.
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Powerlifters -
We eat raw meat, and sleep naked in the snow...
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2005/10/25, 01:26 PM
That was my point. These statistics are EXTREME.
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2005/10/25, 08:35 PM
I didn't say that...it's hard to change your lifestyle when your whole family is-never mind, I don't know WHY I try to put my thoughts into words, they ALWAYS come out wrong...
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And Stella just because your parents REFUSE to do active things with you doesnt mean that you shouldnt be healthy. That is a cop out.
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2005/11/08, 11:23 AM
The fatter society gets the better I'll look :)
The trend won't follow a linear path of growth anyway. It will approach a high rate and then curve and level off.
You can make statistics prove anything if you narrow your vision enough of the real world. Any healthy person overweight has no one to blame but themselves for their obesity problem.
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2005/11/13, 10:43 PM
That study is grossly wrong. When I, at 138 lbs, am the heaviest person in my family, that just goes to show you how some people can eat to their hearts content and never get fat. I pound down about 3700 calories a day sometimes, and still lose weight. I went on a four day cruise all you can eat buffet, and came back home and lost one pound. That study is a blatant lie.
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2005/11/13, 10:43 PM
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2005/11/14, 10:52 AM
Gangster most obese people do over eat. But some do not. Take my wife she was obese yet ate about 1200 cals a day. And she NEVER sits. She is always busy. She did have a medical condition that plays with her insulin. So she had to go to gastric bypass to lose the weight. SO think about that before you spout that all obese people have them selves to blame.
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2005/11/14, 02:03 PM
laxmad, Society needs alittle of my attitude, so they can pull themselves out of the cloud of PC they are living in. It really all boils down to either being driven to ackomplish your goals or giving up and being lazy. The coke issue you are talking about depends on what the kids do when they get out of school. I drink mountain dew for breakfast, but I burn the calories with the activities I'm involved in as well. My point is that if you find yourself limited in mobility, and struggling to scale a set of steps(ie obese), you really have no one to blame but yourself for not having the drive to better yourself. I don't believe in feeling sorry for someone that doesn't even help themselves but instead makes excuses.
mutt you must have missed interpreted my last comment and my definition of healthy.
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2005/11/14, 02:59 PM
Ganster just remember some people have reasons why they are obese taking them on here is a slap in the face and totally unnecesary!!!!
As for the statisctics the only reason I say that it's BS because are they going to tell me that by 2036 or whenever there isnt going to be people who care for their bodies!! I'll bet you by then there will be at least 50 000 people just at Free Trainers who DO CARE!!
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2005/11/14, 03:00 PM
Ganster just remember some people have reasons why they are obese taking them on here is a slap in the face and totally unnecesary!!!!
As for the statisctics the only reason I say that it's BS because are they going to tell me that by 2036 or whenever there isnt going to be people who care for their bodies!! I'll bet you by then there will be at least 50 000 people just at Free Trainers who DO CARE!!
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2005/11/14, 03:07 PM
I think everybody missed "healthy" in gangsters post. There is no reason for a healthy person to be obese.
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2005/11/14, 03:55 PM
Willbert everyone has reasons for being obese, and if it's not a "HEALTH" reason as mutt soo clearly had an example of then it's an excuse. If someone joins the FT forum and stays on the nutrition, and training schedules they will see results. Therefore they shouldn't have any reason to look at my comments as a slap in the face, but rather a sharp dose of reality that they are finding out for themselves to be the truth.
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2005/11/15, 12:57 PM
C'mon gangster, stop hurting feelings. Will you pass me the cake please.
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2005/11/15, 01:30 PM
:laugh: Na guys were getting serious about this I didn't mean that I totally agree that overweight people who can do something about it and don't have only themselves to blame!! But all I'm saying it's a heated topic wich could be sensitive just like when the "skinny" "hardgainer" debates come up it becomes personal to me!!:laugh:
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2005/11/12, 12:43 AM
:angry: And it is exactly your attitude that makes people feel so worthless and crap - hence they do wht makes them feel better - nothing. They sit at home and eat, or hide behind computer names in chat rooms. Live a singular sedentary life.
Statistics are supposed to give you an "idea" of a trend, a path - and we all have the power to be part of the path or not.
As a teacher i see kids everyday drinking coke at 7.30am - how can they do that? They do it because it tastes good, makes them feel special/rich because they can afford to buy it at 7.30 in the morning. Forget the fact that coke cleans your oil stains on your driveway better than any commercial cleaning product!
Basically after that rant (sorry:( ) I think it is a positive attitude that will prove these statistics right or wrong. Look back at the statistics predicted for our generation - the got some things wrong, but a few were right.
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