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WSSC Lifting Routine

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asimmer
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2007/02/19, 11:44 AM
OKay - here comes the lifting routine.
Beginners - work your way towards lifting progressively heavier each set and watch your form - this is a good time to ask a trainer at the gym for a few pointers if you are uncertain how to do something - they should not charge you for a few tips on form!
Mid-level lifters - you should know how to push yourselves by now! You should barely be able to get those last few reps (last set) without your form breaking.
Advanced lifters - the last set should be failure at the last rep - push yourselves as if I was standing there behind you and please ask someone nearby for a spot on that last set! It is no fun to drop a dumbbell on yourself!

Every workout - warm-up 5-8 minutes on a piece of cardio equipment - break a light sweat. I have worked a 15 rep warm-up set into your first exercise for each muscle group - stay fairly light on that set.
Following sets the weight goes up as the reps go down. Tempo is 3 up, 3 down, nice and controlled. Up to a minute rest in-between sets, but if you feel you have recovered before a minute, go ahead with the next set.

Mondays:
Upper body - Chest, Back, Shoulders

Warm-up - push-ups - 10 reps each style - do one set regular, on knees if necessary, and one set with your hands on a bench or step (incline), advanced trainers, one set with feet on a bench, hands on floor.

Exercise Reps
Incline DB Presses 15, 12, 10, 8
Incline flyes 12, 10, 8
Bentover rows 15, 12, 10, 8 (you can use the EZ curl bar or the Barbell, use a reverse grip)
Wide grip pulldowns 12, 10, 8
DB overhead presses 15, 12, 10, 8
Side lateral raises 12, 10, 8

Stretches :

Chest stretch, back stretch, shoulder stretch



Tuesdays - Legs

Warm-up bodyweight squats, 10 reps each - one set narrow stance, one set regular stance, one set wide stance

Squats (DB or BB) 15, 12, 10, 8
Sumo squats 12, 10, 8
Sissy squats - 12, 10, 8 (start with bodyweight only if you haven?t done these before)
Front squats - 12, 10 , 8

Stretches: side-lying quad stretch, hamstring stretch, calf stretch, any additional leg stretches you like.

Wednesday - No lifting..but! ABS!

Do a warm-up like you normally do.

Crossover crunches - 3 sets of 15
Lie on your back like you would fro regular crunches, knees bent, feet on floor. Crunch up and punch over your opposite knee from the hand you punch with. Alternate, punching over one knee and then the other. You need to do 15 reps on each side, so count one and one, two and two, etc. If these are too easy, slow down and hold a small (3lbs maybe) dumbbell in each hand.

Double crunches - 3 sets of 12-20,
Lie on your back, bend your knees and lift your feet off the ground, crunch up, bringing your hips up at the same time you curl your ribcage towards them. Make it smooth and controlled. Work from 12, adding a rep when it feels easy until you get to twenty.

Thursdays - Back, Chest, Shoulders

Warm-up - light bent over db rows, 3 sets of 10

Exercises Reps
One arm DB rows 15, 12, 10, 8
Narrow grip pulldowns 12, 10, 8
Flat DB bench press 15, 12, 10, 8
Flat Flyes 12, 10, 8
Rear delt flyes 15, 12, 10, 8
Front raises 12, 10, 8 - do these with your palm facing in, like you are holding up a goblet for someone.

Stretches - back stretch, chest stretch, shoulder stretch


Fridays

Warm-up - 3 sets 10 walking lunges, bodyweight only

Exercises Reps
Deadlifts 15, 12, 10, 8
(stiff-legged or regular, what you are comfortable with)
Stationary lunges 12, 10, 8
Side lunges 12, 10, 8
(really sit onto the working leg, non-working leg is almost straight)
Step-ups 12, 10, 8

Stretches - side-lying quads stretch, hamstring stretch, calf stretch


Saturdays - No lifting, repeat abs if you feel up to it

Sundays - REST

Let me know what you think!

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2007/02/19, 11:54 AM
Sounds like I am in for some pain... but bring it on!

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2007/02/19, 12:43 PM
This looks good Amy!!

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AG30
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2007/02/19, 01:13 PM
can anyone explain the following exercises.....

Sumo squats

Sissy squats

Front squats


Thanks
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2007/02/19, 01:26 PM
http://www.exrx.net/AnimatedEx/Quadriceps/BBFrontSquat.gif
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2007/02/19, 01:29 PM
Sissy Squat http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/WTSissySquat.html

Sumo Squat
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness23.htm

Front Squat
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/FrontSquat.html
Sorry the gif in the above post does not seem to work on this forum.
Deni
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2007/02/19, 01:31 PM
Looks great Amy and the only exercises I'll have to alter are the pulldowns since there's no gym anywhere close by - that's easy enough to do though.

Thanks again for all the work you're putting in to do this for us!

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AG30
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2007/02/19, 02:01 PM
thanks georgiagirl :big_smile:
asimmer
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2007/02/19, 04:07 PM
Deni - do you have exercise bands/tubing? You can do a nice pull-down with those, if you can anchor on top of a door (close the anchor in the door, on top).

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Deni
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2007/02/19, 04:17 PM
Oooh - great idea! Thanks Amy - I never thought of that!

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AG30
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2007/02/19, 04:30 PM
hey asimmer, is there a reason that there are no tricep or bicep exercises? just wondering :)
asimmer
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2007/02/19, 07:12 PM
You hit your triceps and biceps during the chest and back exercises, seperate isolation moves for them really aren't necessary for most people. If you feel like you must have a triceps/biceps day, do some on Wednesdays, only that will detract from Thursday's back/chest workout.

Most people really don't need isolation moves, big, compound moves are really quite effective. Your arms will grow in response to the legwork, the chest work and the back work, they have to.

The splits where you work a different muscle group each day and do a seperate arm workout originated with bodybuilders and are useful for bodybuilding, but most people don't need the isolation.

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2007/02/19, 07:34 PM
thanks asimmer. so do I need to do tricep and bicep stuff if I want to shape my arms and build a nice bulgy bicep? or will this come with the compound moves?
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2007/02/19, 08:04 PM
Amy what a great idea for the pulldowns. Don't know why I never thought of that:)
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2007/02/20, 08:31 AM
Looks good But I will have to do some convincing of my husband about those biceps and triceps ( you know men hardheaded) Ill bet he does some anyways. Oh well :)

Still working on the measurements but Ill have them in soon.

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asimmer
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2007/02/20, 10:46 AM
ag30 - you will stuill get big biceps from compund work, like bentover rows and pulldowns, but if your ego needs it, do some curls:)

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Deni
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2007/02/23, 10:49 AM
Thanks Amy - the effect of those crossover crunches finally kicked in! I think of you everytime I sneeze. Achoo! (ow!) Achoo! (ow!) lol

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asimmer
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2007/02/28, 09:59 AM
About those sissy squats - if they are uncomfortable - drop them! Do stationary lunges or step-back lunges instead - 3 sets of 12.

A lot of people have been saying that rainers in their gyms are watching their workouts and saying "Thats a lot of squats" Tell them you are doing a compound=movement based workout and hitting multiple angles with differetn styles of squats - your focus is different on your other leg day and they can MYOB... but seriously - most trainers in the gym aren't ioperating on much program design education, they are still having female clients do lighter weights, lots of reps, isolation movements (let's do triceps extensions with 3 pounds to get rid of those chicken wings..and now 500 crunches to flatten your tummy...)...keep at it and the results will speak for themselves.

Oh, and your legs won't be nearly as sore next week!:)

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2007/02/28, 10:08 AM
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Looks good But I will have to do some convincing of my husband about those biceps and triceps ( you know men hardheaded) Ill bet he does some anyways. Oh well :)


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Well after the way his body felt yesterday I didn't have to do any convincing....:)Talk about feeling it..He did. Thank God Because he can be stubborn, But hey thats what I love about him..



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dfly411
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2007/03/01, 10:38 AM
OMG, today was so tough cause I was still so sore from Monday's upper body workout. I pushed trough everything to failure but I sure couldn't go up on my weight for a couple of the exercises.

I am weak. But determined...do I get kudos for that?

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KC_72
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2007/03/01, 12:53 PM
KUDOS out the WAZOOOOOOOOOOOO:dumbbell:

I'm the same way.....:)
asimmer
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2007/03/01, 02:28 PM
You don't have to go up every workout!
Kudo's to everyone who is getting in and doing the work!:)

Keep it up - next week you won't be as sore!

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dfly411
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2007/03/02, 10:46 AM
Ok, so I found out today that I don't have the balance that it takes to do side lunges gracefully. I got through them all, but I imagine the all the people watching me from the cardio riser were very entertained.

Perhaps next week I will duct tape an exercise ball to my side and just let myself bounce off the wall instead of falling all over the place. :surprised:

Oh, and about the dead lifts...are you supposed to feel those in your buttocks or just your hammies? I couldn't feel it all the way up and I am under the impression that I'm supposed to. Am I doing something wrong?

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KC_72
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2007/03/02, 11:21 AM
I'll bet you'll feel it tomorrow dfly!!!!

I had the same issue with the side lunges..I was at home and felt like an @$$....I gave up the weight on the second set...and didnt even do the third....WAY to uncoordinated for those...I'm gonna hurt myself....
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2007/03/02, 11:22 AM
Deadlifts will be felt in the Hammies and buttocks and the obliques as well as arms upper/lower back and just about every inch of the body

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asimmer
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2007/03/02, 11:43 AM
Think of the side lunges as squats witj one leg extended out to the side and your weight shifted over the working leg more..might help?

Deadlifts - once you get them and figure out how to squeeze your glute/hammie tie-in area without over extending forward you will feel them in your butt:)

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2007/03/02, 10:14 PM
Oh yeah, I didn't feel the deadlifts in my butt a whole lot while I was doing them, but believe me I sure felt them the next day! Everytime I sat down (ouch!) I just kept telling myself - "my butt's gonna get smaller, my butt's gonna get smaller"! Amazing how thoughts of a smaller butt help to ease the pain! :big_smile:

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jaytori129
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2007/03/02, 10:43 PM
did the DL lunge routine tonight it felt weird going to have to practive my form with them i think...being very heavy and tall i dont think helps lol
asimmer
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2007/03/03, 08:39 AM
LIghtly touch the side of the squat rack with one hand for balance, that will help, jay.

Yes - thinking towards the posistive results does help lessen the self-pity and pain a little:)

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dfly411
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2007/03/05, 07:55 PM
My workout sucked today... I'm sure part of it was focus, but I have to tell you...the soreness that I had Saturday and Sunday was unbelievable. Put it to ya this way...it was enough to make me sick on my stomach. Today, I'm not that sore but I could barely do all my sets...felt really sluggish and weak.

But, I did everything and so I guess that is all that really matters. Sigh....it's been a rough day.

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bouncerboo
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2007/03/15, 10:16 PM
OUCH! OUCH! I'm definitely feeling the ab exercises right this very minute! This is the first time that I have sat down today and OUCH!!!
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2007/03/15, 11:18 PM
lol kicking tall wonder what s better results from tonights plan:
1. An after full routine personal best 205x3 on bench OR
2, 95 lb one arm BARBELL row 8 TIMES!

P.S. Ever get this creeping thought in the back of your head that says quit? I did and told it TO SHUT UP!

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2007/03/16, 07:16 AM
nah mines more like "go on eat that chocolate easter egg that you got for your hubby" how long does it take to beat sugar cravings?:angry:
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2007/03/16, 08:39 AM
beat them? That is assuming they go away LOL:big_smile::)

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2007/03/16, 05:45 PM
i hope so or poor hubby wont get an egg haha:big_smile:
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2007/03/19, 12:55 PM
The best way to beat sugar cravings is to go cold turkey off sugar and eat well-balanced meals every 3 hours.

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2007/03/28, 03:59 PM
I have a general question. I'm starting weighlifting and I joined a gym, but the trainer there on my free session said only to work each muscle group ever 5-7 days to allow the muscle group time to heal and build back up. She said working the muscle more often than that doesn't allow the muscle to build up. Now, I figure the people on this forum who are recommending to work the muscle groups more frequently have the muscles to back up their recommendations. So why the disparity in information?
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2007/03/28, 04:14 PM
free session eh? Just FYI generally you work the muscle groups once a week maybe 2x a week depending our your focus I can send ya my workout based around the WSSC challenge if you want its made in excel
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2007/03/28, 06:46 PM
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So why the disparity in information?
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There is so much contradictory information out there it is really confusing for a newbie. I'll be honest, Amy (asimmer) is an inspiration to me, if I look at here before and afters I see all the evidence I need to convince me she knows what works! (Apart from the time and dedication to helping others).

I'm sure some of the other info out there works too, but when you find something that works for you, stick with it!

I try not to work each muscle group more often than every 3 days, that gives it time to recover, rebuild and when you come back to it you can work it effectively again. One a week is probably ok, just a little slower. The real danger is in overtraining and not giving yourself time to recover.

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2007/03/28, 09:06 PM
Well, I typed this once before, but it has disappeared somewhere. I checked out the web links on how to do the squats, and I was concerned about stress on the knees. I have torn up cartilage under my left knee cap and I've had surgery to clean out my right knee. Will these squats still be beneficial if I can't go below a 90 degree angle? Is there anyone here with knee problems that do/don't do these squats? Are there alternate exercises to do?
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2007/03/29, 12:00 AM
do not do the sissy squats....however..do a wider stance on squatsabout 4-6 inches OUTSIDE shoulders. It has the effect of shortening the femur bone on a squat (helpful for tall people and knee problems) I HAVE BOTH (old mcl, acl surgey and I am 6'1" I only do them to parallel or just below it usually i do them til i hit my bench when it is set on decline behind you can check out google video from my user: my most recent vid on squats http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7183435661537425455
if you just click vids from same user on side of it....you will see how far I have come

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Nickibeth
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2007/03/29, 01:42 AM
Thanks for the advise, do you do something in place of the sissy squats to target those same muscles?
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2007/03/29, 01:02 PM
if you do the other that should be good enough....kinda hard to reccomend some thing to replace that when you have knee concerns but do the rest you be fine...you'll often find that you really dont wanna do all of them it becomes torture lol...but its also called dedication and results

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2007/04/01, 10:27 AM
Okay - for those who started the first week of the challenge - you have been doing this routine for 5 weeks now - how are you feeling about it? I was thinking maybe after this 6th week you might like a routine change...what do you think? If you feel like you are still getting the hang of this routine, or you are enjoying it and it is still very challenging we can stay with it. I just know that, personally, I get a little tired of doing the same routine for month after month, so maybe a change would be nice...

Thoughts?

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jaytori129
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2007/04/01, 12:32 PM
its up to you you are my PT...however, All I did to break outta routine was switch order of days i was doing it, BUT ITS UP TO YOU
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2007/04/01, 02:26 PM
Because of my absence of being sick and missing out, I feel that I am still adjusting to this routine and would like to keep it for myself personally, but.... If you feel a change up is needed I can incorporate that in a couple of weeks. :)

Amy you are awesome and thanks for all the hard work and dedication you have put into this. It doesn't go unnoticed and I am so thankful for you.

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2007/04/01, 02:29 PM
I'm just able to remember the routine now without fishing a grotty piece of paper from my pocket!

A change is as good as a rest so they say, I trust your judgement Amy.

Jon
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2007/04/01, 05:20 PM
Personally, although I have been enjoying this routine, I am ready for a change. I could do this one for a few more weeks, but not sure I want to continue on for 7 more weeks.
asimmer
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2007/04/02, 09:28 AM
Well, lets keep it for a week or two more, then switch! Okay?

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dfly411
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2007/04/02, 10:21 AM
I'm up for anything as long as I get results. I still have to go by my book each time, but that's just me...I can't even remember my zip code half the time. :big_smile:

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