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2004/03/05, 04:25 PM
let me try and word this with out hurting feelings.........seems like everytime I sign on to the sight, which I do love by the way I'm not doing the sight just the useless posts. Let me explain before i get hate emails. Every post here I think helps some one learn somthing new about health. However some of these posts are getting repitive. I mean I sign on to a post and see a question about abbs, or bigger arms, or how to get chest bigger, but if you look down 3 or 4 posts almost the same question was asked or stated and has answers to it. I'm not saying peopel are stupid what I am saying is use common sense don't ask the same exact thing if when you look on the page and theres somthing right there to the nature of your question. Most of the facts and answers people give on here stay the same. Ex. if you want abbs you have to loose body fat no if ands or but about it!
I don't get annoyed easly, however some of this over and over posting is starting to wear on me, and i know the rest of the community doesn't like answering the smae questions over and over again. sorry guys just venting
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......minds are not vessles to be filled, but fires to be enlightened
......Confucious once said ,DO NOT play leap frog with a unicorn
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2004/03/05, 04:29 PM
The mods have been discussing this and have proposed creating a FAQ (frequently asked questions) somewhere within the boards. Hopefully, we will hear back from George & Adrian...
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Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
E-mail: rpacheco@freetrainers.com
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2004/03/05, 04:33 PM
There is a post in the feedback forum requesting a FAQ. Judging by the way Adrian and George constantly improve the sight, I bet we will see one soon. There are several good suggestions in the post I mentioned as to what could be in the FAQ. Maybe you could suggest some , Andrew. You always have great ideas and sound knowlege. BTW, I don't think your post pissed anyone off. :dumbbell:
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Charlie
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2004/03/05, 04:34 PM
LOL Robert and I seem to simulpost frequently.
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The greatest mystery of life is who we truly are.
Charlie
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2004/03/05, 04:40 PM
I AM FLAMING MAD!!!!!:angry: I WANT TO READ ABOUT HOW TO GET BIGGER ARMS OVER AND OVER AND HOW THE CARBS LISTED SEEM TOO HIGH!!!!! :laugh::laugh:
Just kidding. I agree. I wish that people would do a fitbuddy search before they post if they have a question.
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2004/03/05, 04:42 PM
yea I also sent a email to the ft staff about a new forum........ sports forum (sports related questions).......since so many play sports I thought it would be a good addition( shurgs shoulders) but I dunno
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......minds are not vessles to be filled, but fires to be enlightened
......Confucious once said ,DO NOT play leap frog with a unicorn
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2004/03/06, 10:55 AM
as i have written a post (and then posted it) and then look at the list have realised that it has been answered. i apologise but i think that sometimes people want an answer and suspect that it because them asking it they will recieve a slightly different answer. im sorry if im guilty:(
i will look before i leap from now on.
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2004/03/06, 12:46 PM
If all people did was search fit buddy then I suspect that every conceivable answer has already been given to some extent. What then would be the point of having the ability to post or communicate. Heck it gets fun after the third response anyway-Charlie, delts, you, the mods, everybody, shit it's a good time. Part of the benefit of being in this community is having the opportunity to help other people. I might not be as knowledgeable as some but I do enjoy the opportunity to answer for the first time a question that, say bb1, has answered probably a thousand times (although I can't get near as technical as some). I also like to see someone who I have helped sharing info to a newcomer. (I'm sure the older hands get a kick out of that too) Do you think that I just stumbled onto this wealth of knowledge? Bb1, Rev, Asimmer, Carivan, Mutt, you, and many others have taught me. For that I am truly thankful. I'm only glad to share it and I hope they don't mind. If I'm wrong in my response the moderators can correct me. That's what they are there for. Most people feel their problem or concern is unique and to a certain extent it is as we are all individuals with unique abilities. I also suspect that many people do use the fit buddy (we will probably never know how many, maybe thousands). Many people pass through this site. Some stick around, many do not. I do like the idea of the faq section and I suspect it's coming. Until then, I will continue to answer what I can and try to make it an experience that has a personal real-time touch to it. If people are put out and don't want to answer an ab or diet question they can skip over it. Maybe if they put fit buddy at the TOP of the page. I've been on boards where the moderators were ruthless about reposts. It's a very harsh environment and ends up being just a discussion board for a select, knowledgeable few. That's not what ft's all about. Not for me anyway. There that's my rant. Sorry
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2004/03/06, 01:27 PM
Try typing how do I train my abs into fit buddy and you will get nothing useful. I think there was 1 topic with abs in it out of the first 20. I don't want to spend my time searching for something when there is this many people willing to answer my question personally.
Oh, and don't apologize for stating your opinion. It's like admitting your wrong. And besides, if your post did piss me off, your apology wouldn't make up for it.
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2004/03/06, 04:05 PM
Perhaps a warning/suggestion pop up to appear b4 posting a new topic to try fit buddy first. Also I partly agree with agamble, I been to boards as newcomer where people there seems to get very upset about reposts..it dont help the newcomers much for motivation. They wanna talk, it maybe old news to you but its new to them. Also the fact that its your question being answered to be lead into maybe a discussion makes it more..well as said by agamble real time.
However I do understand how frustrating it can be for old timers answering/seing new questions over and over again as I too has been old timers in other forums. I think perhaps just avoiding the question and leaving it for those who want to answer it?
The thing with a forum is its a "discussion board", that means its there for people to discuss things. If every question is to be logged and put into a faq or searched through fit buddy, the number of posts/topics will dry down and forum could get boring/inactive. I think forum posters are splitted into new/middle/old/bored - its a cycle, the new will one day get be considered an oldie to the board and newcomers will come, thats how the msgboard keeps going.
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Willing is not enough, we must do. Success is the journey...not the destination.--- Bruce Lee
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2004/03/06, 04:12 PM
I do not think that not asking questions ( although similar to prev posts ) is what is meant by this post. I think he is refering to the questions that are simple and could have been very easly found using fitbuddy. I agree with csferrie that you can get a wide range of responses that will not answer your question when using fitbuddy. I have also seen posts such as asking for a good protein powder. Questions such as those can be found using fitbuddy. I think Bigandrew is saying try fitbuddy to see if an answer pops up - if not then post away.
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2004/03/06, 05:33 PM
Shut up and grow!!! All of you!!!:):):):dumbbell:
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2004/03/06, 06:05 PM
WEll as agamble said, some that come here just want a answer not searching a lot. However I agree that doing a search is the right thing to do. But if every new person got their answers from fitbuddy, then I would not have a site to goto! So let them post, but do try to do a little research first.:love::big_smile:
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2004/03/06, 06:52 PM
ATiger I know what he meant. Let me put it this way:
I use to play an online strategy game. When I was new I used to visit the strategy board, asking questions and trying to discuss strats thats been discussed lots of times by other people before.
When I got experience of the game, learnt loads, I still visited strategy board, except this time instead of asking questions I was "answering" questions.
Now, I still go to strategy forum for a quick look if theres anything new and nope, theres nothing new, same thing over and over again so I dont hang out there as often anymore cos not much new things being discussed, though I still post now and again.
My point is its kind of the same thing with this board, it just rotates, if you been here for years no doubt you will see same questions appear again and again. However what is the alternative? If all the beginners just found the answers in fitbuddy the forum would probably dry out and wont be as busy, thus becoming boring for the new guys and those guys that want to help out new people.
If that happens it becomes less of a community message board, but more like a book. Dont get me wrong, Im not trying to have a go at anyone I can understand exactly when some of you peeps are coming from but my point is: plz dont be mad at new guys trying to learn, be part of the community and use the board for discussion of what is new to them.
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Willing is not enough, we must do. Success is the journey...not the destination.--- Bruce Lee
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2004/03/08, 09:43 PM
Look at how much thought and discussion was generated by the topic of reposting itself...
Fresh perspective, insightful narratives, there is an awful lot of the same things over and over but it's worth sifting through it all to find the gems, and to share our own nuggets of wisdom we gained from reading something similar previously.
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2004/03/09, 12:29 AM
How do you learn if you don't go over it time and again? Since I've been on here, I've gained alot of knowledge simply through seeing the info presented over and over. Don't get me wrong, the topics can get mundane and repetative, but that just shows that you know your stuff and you don't HAVE to respond. These posts don't hurt anyone though they can get a little annoying. Again, Its different people at different fitness levels, signing up at different times. When I first came on here, I didn't want to search the entire sight for what I was looking for so I asked the moderators directly. There's hundreds of people on this sight inquiring about the same topic, generally. So you're going to get repetition and ambguity. NOW...shut up and grow.:big_smile::dumbbell::big_smile:
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2004/03/09, 09:46 AM
Thats an interesting topic. I was thinking the same. Im probably guilty as charge for repetitive ?'s. I like that the staff is looking into that faq area. Thanks for bringin up what many of us are thinking and doing :)
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2004/03/09, 09:49 AM
The repetetive stuff really doesnt bother me. I look at the topic and if I am not interested I do not read it.
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2004/03/09, 12:39 PM
The only irritating thing is that many of us have answered the basic questions in detail and at much length. I do like helping people, but I am not a professional typist and when i answer questions in-depth i look up resources and try to give a good, informed answer.
In fitness, the basics do not change much. There has been a change in thinking from some studies on stretching, and 'new' techniques are invented every wek (most are rehashes of old routines with new names).
But the basics, lifting, cardio, nutrition, really don't change that much. When five posts asking how do I get flat abs are posted within five days... do a little homework, if you can't find the answer you are looking for, then ask a specific question.
Sooo many people do not want to put the time in to figure out their diet, to search out the answers to their fitness questions, to seek ways around their obstacles. Sometimes I have to ask if maybe they are trying to put the lack of knowledge up as a barrier/excuse to not be fitter.
The more you help yourself, the stronger and more informed you will be and the more you can, in-turn, help others.
I do think that a FAQ's section will help a lot, but there will still be people who don't want to take the time to look at the FAQs.
Keep educating yourself! Knowledge is power!
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Stuart McRobert, Beyond Brawn
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