Group: General Diet & Nutrition

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IS DRINKING SODA BAD?

My_Sunshine64
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2004/05/06, 01:07 PM
i was just wondering because i drink about 20 cans of soda a day. is this bad for me?
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2004/05/06, 01:15 PM
yes.....

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hecdarec
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2004/05/06, 01:19 PM
This might explain why you are throwing up and have diarrhea.

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My_Sunshine64
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2004/05/06, 01:26 PM
hi hecdarec im fine now. but i dont know what happened.
howdiekat
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2004/05/06, 02:14 PM
lol hec, i'm sorry but that was hilarious.

totally true though. caffine will severely dehydrate you, and if you don't drink enough water to counteract this, which i'm guessing you don't because of another post that you made, you're going to suffer the consequences on both ends if you know what i mean.

anything when done in excess is bad for you. an example of excess would be drinking 20 sodas in one day. if you drank one a day and also drank plenty of water to flush it out, that would be one thing, but drinking nothing but soft drinks is quite another.

and if i'm not mistaken, caffine will keep your body from absorbing b-complex vitamins which are essential to healthy bodily function. it's been a while since i was in my nutrition classes, but if i'm wrong someone tell me because i don't want to post bad info.


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hecdarec
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2004/05/06, 02:31 PM
You never post bad info howdie.

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howdiekat
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2004/05/06, 03:08 PM
thanks for the vote of confidince hec:big_smile:

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fsdsk
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2004/05/06, 03:37 PM
Don't forget about the sugar too.....20 cans is seems a bit excessive to me
mmaibohm
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2004/05/06, 03:40 PM
I am down from a 2 liter of diet coke per day. I know onl;y drink a can with diner and 2 at work since I dont drink coffe. Also while at work I drink near a gallon of water lol

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2004/05/06, 03:52 PM
I did some poking around in Fit Buddy... a Medium Coke at Burger King has 230 cals... and 56g of sugar... now, not sure if a regular can is any better or worse, but it gives you the idea... a small coke is 160 cals and has 41g of sugar... that's likely closer to the size of a can of Coke... multiply that by 20... well, you get the picture...

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fryer91
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2004/05/06, 04:22 PM
Whew, all this talk about water, soda, pop, sugar, carbs...

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I drank to much. I gotta peeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I do have a question; what about caffeine free, diet coke, or pepsi?
Datdanigirl
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2004/05/06, 04:54 PM
What would be the point of that??:laugh:

Actually I don't drink pop hardly ever, but if I do it's FOR the caffeine.

Sunshine, I'm having a hard time swallowing this.. 20 cans a day, so you're spending over $100 a week on soda??? I hope you're taking your returnables back!!

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I do have a question; what about caffeine free, diet coke, or pepsi?
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howdiekat
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2004/05/06, 04:56 PM
in a 12 oz can of coke, there are 140 calories and 39g of sugar. i did the math for you because i am nerdy and i like numbers and statistics and things of that nature.

in drinking 20 cokes you would consume the following daily:

2800 calories <--- all empty i might add
780g of sugar
1000mg of sodium <--- makes you bloated :(

add this to the amount of food that you would eat normally in a given day and there is absolutely no way on earth that you could be maintaining your current weight. not to mention the fact that all the water soluble vitamins you'd be taking in wouldn't be absorbed because you'd be completely dehydrated.

fryer, even without caffine there is still sugar and acid and other nasty stuff that is bad for your health. if you must drink them however, the key is moderation and lots of water.

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fryer91
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2004/05/06, 05:11 PM
Well howdiekat; I don't drink much soda at all. Maybe a can of that Caffeine Free Diet crap that my wife buys. I gotta have something other then water to choke down that unsalted, unbuttered popcorn that she insist on buying. Nothing like sitting down and watching a good movie with popcorn and a soda. Sheeeeeet, you see what I'm drinking, and eating! Can I at least add something to the popcorn? What would you suggest?
asimmer
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2004/05/06, 05:12 PM
My Sunshine, are you a troll? No one could drink 20 cans of soda a day. If you haven't already developed diabetes or blood sugar problems, and you have any teeth or intestines left, it is amazing.



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yadmit
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2004/05/06, 05:14 PM
You can get all sorts of flavorings for popcorn, though I'm not sure how healthy they are... there is a butter substitute that you can sprinkle on.. although it just doesn't melt like butter on the popcorn... I've also heard of people adding hot sauce to it... weird, but I haven't tried it yet..

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Well howdiekat; I don't drink much soda at all. Maybe a can of that Caffeine Free Diet crap that my wife buys. I gotta have something other then water to choke down that unsalted, unbuttered popcorn that she insist on buying. Nothing like sitting down and watching a good movie with popcorn and a soda. Sheeeeeet, you see what I'm drinking, and eating! Can I at least add something to the popcorn? What would you suggest?
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My_Sunshine64
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2004/05/06, 06:44 PM
well maybe not 20 but close enough. lets just say i drink too much soda and not enough water.
howdiekat
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2004/05/06, 07:06 PM
lol...a troll??:laugh::laugh:

fryer, you could always drink lemonade or something. i haven't had a soft drink in almost 7 years and i usually go with some kind of fruit based something or other when i'm not feeling the h20. or if i'm feeling ultra sassy i'll have dos xx...but then we get back to the dilemma of drinking things that can have bad effects on our health so forget i even mentioned beer. doh!

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Quoting from fryer91:

Well howdiekat; I don't drink much soda at all. Maybe a can of that Caffeine Free Diet crap that my wife buys. I gotta have something other then water to choke down that unsalted, unbuttered popcorn that she insist on buying. Nothing like sitting down and watching a good movie with popcorn and a soda. Sheeeeeet, you see what I'm drinking, and eating! Can I at least add something to the popcorn? What would you suggest?
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mmaibohm
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2004/05/06, 07:25 PM
I used to love crazy horse malt liqour lol
big_j_scf
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2004/05/08, 07:34 PM
the only time ive drank soda in the past five years has been with alcohol...I figure that if I'm going to do one thing bad to my body, I can kill two birds with one stone.

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david_s81
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2004/05/12, 09:25 PM
crazy horse...whaaaa?? Never heard of it.
mmaibohm
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2004/05/12, 09:48 PM
crazy horse was some serious brew. It has since been banned becuase there was a huge lawsuit between the american indians and the makers of it.

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jsvez
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2004/05/18, 08:59 AM
I happened to read this article this morning. http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/403988|top|05-17-2004::20:04|reuters.html

rmforall
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2004/05/30, 12:47 AM

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/935
Comet assay finds DNA damage from sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin in mice: Sasaki YF & Tsuda S Aug 2002: Murray 2003.01.01 rmforall


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It is certain that high levels of aspartame use, above 2 liters daily for months and years, must lead to chronic formaldehyde-formic acid toxicity.

Fully 11% of aspartame is methanol-- 1,120 mg aspartame in 2 L diet soda, almost six 12-oz cans, gives 123 mg methanol (wood alcohol). The methanol is immediately released into the body after drinking-- unlike the large levels of methanol locked up in complex molecules inside
many fruits and vegetables. Within hours, the liver turns much of the methanol into formaldehyde, and then much of that into formic acid, both of which in time are partially
eliminated as carbon dioxide and water.

However, about 30% of the methanol remains in the body as cumulative durable toxic metabolites of formaldehyde and formic acid-- 37 mg daily, a gram every month, accumulating in and affecting every tissue.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1071
research on aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde, formic acid) toxicity: Murray 2004.05.29 rmforall

Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@comcast.net
1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505 USA 505-501-2298

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/927
Donald Rumsfeld, 1977 head of Searle Corp., got aspartame FDA approval: Turner: Murray 2002.12.23 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1039
three-page review: aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity: Murray 2003.11.22 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1026
brief aspartame review: formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 2003.09.11 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1025
aspartame & formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 2003.09.09 rmforall

nexus14
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2004/06/01, 01:06 PM
Guys, I am sorry but you are too good when replyinig to My _unshine64's post.
When I read the post(20 sodas), I thought you guys were going to scream out.
Saying "Well you shouldn't drink that much especially without water intake OR 20 sodas seem a bit excessive" is not severe enough.
20 cans or say 15 cans. What the heck. I am not a nutrition specialist nor have any degree on this but I can tell that that much of soda is not excessive, it is unacceptable. If you drink that much of soda(still couln't figure out how one can handle 15-20 cans in one day) you are ruining your body no matter what type of soda it is(diet or not).

And thanks asimmer for your post.

bb1fit
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2004/06/01, 07:32 PM
You are type 2 diabetes waiting to happen! Seriously, you are jeapordizing your health and working toward a lifetime of medication if you don't change things.

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well maybe not 20 but close enough. lets just say i drink too much soda and not enough water.
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ursusarktos
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2004/06/01, 10:57 PM
I very rarely peruse the boards outside of the strength training & powerlifting forum where the B.S. meter usually doesn't go nearly this far past the redline. The moderators on this forum have the patience of Job, LOL.
Someone is definitely trolling when in their profile they state that their goal is to lose 100 lbs and eat right, then ask if 20 cans pop per day is a tad much.
Woodie
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2004/06/02, 11:02 AM
Don't forget that the phosphoric acid will leach calcium out of your bone. For women this is a even greater concern then wieght gain.

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bb1fit
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2004/06/02, 12:37 PM
Great post!!!!:big_smile:

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I very rarely peruse the boards outside of the strength training & powerlifting forum where the B.S. meter usually doesn't go nearly this far past the redline. The moderators on this forum have the patience of Job, LOL.
Someone is definitely trolling when in their profile they state that their goal is to lose 100 lbs and eat right, then ask if 20 cans pop per day is a tad much.
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yadmit
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2004/06/03, 03:12 PM
Found this info today... I found it on the net, so it must be true, right (kidding)... but some food for thought...

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WATER

1. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated.
2. In 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is often mistaken for hunger.
3. Even MILD dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as 3%.
4. One glass of water will shut down midnight hunger pangs for almost 100% of the dieters studied in a University of Washington study.
5. Lack of water, the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue.
6. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.
7. A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy or short-term memory loss, trouble with basic math, and difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a printed page.
8. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely to develop bladder cancer.

And now for the properties of COKE:

1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of coke in the truck to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of Coke and it will be gone in two days.
3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous China.
4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a rumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.
5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.
6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Applying a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the rusted bolt for several minutes.
7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan, wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is finished, remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke for a
sumptuous brown gravy.
8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains.
9. It will also clean road haze from your windshield.

For Your Info:

1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It will dissolve a nail in about 4 days. Phosphoric acid also leaches calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in osteoporosis.
2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must use the Hazardous material place cards reserv ed for Highly corrosive materials.
3. The distributors of Coke have been using it to clean the engines of their trucks for about 20 years!

Now the question is, would you like a coke or a glass of water?


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yadmit
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2004/06/03, 03:17 PM
Oops... meant to add this before I posted...

I'm sure some of the coke properties are urban legends, but thought provoking none the less...

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I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies, for the hardest victory is over self. - Aristotle

You have the power to change a life right in your own hands. - Paul Brandt

GO FLAMES

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Kyrah
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2004/06/03, 05:00 PM
LOL good post Tim. . . but I must add that #2 for Coke is a waste of a good T-Bone steak!!!:big_smile:

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yadmit
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2004/06/03, 05:15 PM
I agree... haha:laugh:

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GOWAR
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2004/06/08, 03:14 AM
I drink soda everyone once in awhile, drink water , if you drink too much soda it is BAD.
david_s81
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2004/06/08, 03:22 AM
Urban Legends?? I think not. The coke did take the grease out of my dickies, but it left the whole load of laundry sticky and caramel brown.

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The_Tic
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2004/06/08, 04:25 AM
I once upon a time thought that a 12 pack a day of Mt. Dew was the greatest thing on earth.
Lucky for me I got my head on straight, gave up the pop and have also gone on to lose a whole heck of a lot of weight.
I have since tried pop again, and I cant stand it. I think it tastes nasty. The only one that I can stand is Root Beer, and that is good cause if I couldnt get me a root beer float this summer I would be upset! LOL
CristalBelle
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2004/06/08, 12:56 PM
Anyone noticed that My_Sunshine, Thuglovin, and the Fat Girl whatever her name is, stopped posting after like 4 days?? Anyone who thinks they were the same person raise their hands!!
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2004/06/08, 01:18 PM
I miss all of them =(

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momofjandb
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2004/06/08, 03:16 PM
The Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel did an episode on the "legends" of Coke. Most of those listed above were true.
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2004/06/08, 03:42 PM
The "Fat Girl Whatever her name is.." :laugh::laugh:

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