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2004/06/02, 03:06 PM
I recommend this movie to everyone....especially if you are a fast food junkie.
It is amazing the damage we do to our bodies.
PAT
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2004/06/02, 03:35 PM
Can't wait until it gets to Charlotte.
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2004/06/02, 03:36 PM
Can't wait until it gets to Charlotte.
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2004/06/02, 04:14 PM
I read an article about the damage it did to his liver and everything - pretty disgusting. The good aprt was that with a healthy diet and exercise he got back to his original weight and reversed the damage to his liver, etc.
Isn't the resiliency of the human body amazing?
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2004/06/02, 04:19 PM
I agree - a charming and likeable film about a vile subject. I ran home and threw out "bad" food, I can't even drive by a McD withouth feeling queezy.
Gordon Spurlock - the film maker - gained 24 bad pounds in 30 days, damn near destroyed his liver, clearly smelled bad and felt like hell - even sexual disfunction. It took him over 6 months to recover and still had 4 pounds to go. This guy was in great shape at the start - his struggle to recover shouldn't be underestimated.
See it, but skip the popcorn, you won't be able to eat it.
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2004/06/02, 08:30 PM
I also read that now he is more prone than ever to weight gain. Is this possible?
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2004/06/02, 09:20 PM
that movie was mcawesome! i saw it in austin last week and it made me really glad i don't eat any of that sh*t. i think it's a must-see for anyone who eats fast food more than twice a month. three cheers for unprocessed organic food!
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2004/06/03, 11:20 AM
ummmm....did I miss something...I don't see the name of the movie...or was it "PAT"?
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2004/06/03, 11:23 AM
Name of movie is "Supersize Me"
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2004/06/03, 05:19 PM
I haven't heard anything about it until now, where have I been? Ohhhhh..hiding under my blankets so the world cannot see me, that's it.
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2004/06/07, 06:12 PM
After watching Supersize me I left the theater sick to my stomach. I don't really like fast food, esp McDonalds but I had been addicted to their salads. Now I can't even look at a McDonalds, I makes me nauseas!! Everyone need to go see this movie!
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2004/06/07, 06:36 PM
I read an article about it in "Shape" magazine on the weekend... rather disturbing... whew.. although, I don't think I'll eat there everyday for a month...
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You have the power to change a life right in your own hands. - Paul Brandt
Do or do not, there is no try. Yoda
GO FLAMES
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2004/06/07, 08:12 PM
Yea, that would be a good idea. But I think the point was just to show how fast it could happen. 30 days isn't that much time, and he fell pretty far.
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2004/06/19, 07:45 AM
Yeah but the guy was eating big macs 3 times a day for 30 days. If I ate ice cream 3 times a day for 30 days I would get fat too. It all comes down to the choices we make. I think McDonald's gets a bad rep out of the whole thing. Look at all that they are doing to offer a healthier choice on the menu. The key word is choice. We all make our own choices, nobody forces us to shove big macs down our throats.
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2004/06/19, 10:42 AM
Hec - I am on my way to your house, big mac in hand, we will see about that...
But seriously... he was challenging the fast food business' statement that you could have a healthy diet eating their foods. He ate different things off of the menu, but I think if you were trying to eat a healthy diet off the Mcd's menu, you would pick the salads and such. You are pretty much out of luck if you want a healthy breakfast, but if you want to eat salad 3 times a day... might as well make it at home and know exactly what is in it.
Lets hope it does open some people's eyes.
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Building muscle and might builds strong minds and character. Respect and humility come from lifting weights and feeding yourself with care. And from these distinguished qualities a great nation of people is built, by God. (Of course the God part is your choice, friend.)\\" Dave Draper
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2004/06/19, 06:01 PM
i can pretty much fill you in on all the rules...
other than the "supersize me" rule, he had to:
1) eat 1 of every item on the menu during the 30-day period
2) not exercise more than the average american does in a day - this was the equivalent of walking roughly 3500 steps or something to that effect.
3) he had to order things on the menu EXACTLY as they are prepared. no substitutions, no leaving off cheese, dressing, bacon, etc. (he wasn't eating bic macs every day, that was the super skinny guy whose metabolism should be illegal in all 50 states and puerto rico.)
4) he couldn't order anything he didn't have to pay for. this means if they didn't have bottled water, he couldn't drink water. that alone would take me out of the running.
the point of the film was that the menus in fast food establishments aren't designed to promote a healthy lifestyle. yes, if you go into mcdonalds and order a salad minus the cheese, bacon, and dressing that could be a healthy meal, but the average american doesn't do this - thus the reason fast food can contribute to obesity, unhealthy livers, and high-risk cholesterol levels. also, he didn't exercise to make a point. take a survey of people who eat fast food on a regular basis...how many of them are sedentary? that's what this guy had to do - become the average american - and look what happened to him when he mcdonaldized his diet.
i think the fast food industry does have a responsibility to americans to give them uncomplicated, healthy menu items to choose from because the sad truth is that in our fast-paced world, fast food has to be an option sometimes. while i generally choose smoothie king and a trioplex bar as my fast food, i can assure you that 99% of america does not think like this.
personally, i will not touch fast food unless it is an absolute emergency. i would rather starve than put that into my body, thus the reason i have a hard time getting my rda for calories, but that is another issue entirely.
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2004/06/19, 12:55 AM
Hmn...
It's a pretty good movie. To us experts, we wouldn't learn too much, but for people who aren't in the know, it's a pretty darn realistic wake-up call for America.
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2004/06/19, 01:49 PM
There was a 20/20 special on this last night, two other people did what this guy did, I haven't seen the movie but they went over it a bit, anyway, the other two that decided to challenge him actually lost weight and their cholesterol went down...now I don't know if the original guy exercised, but these two did, the one was a woman and she was overweight to begin with and lost some weight doing minor exercies and watched WHAT she ate, as asimmer mentioned was possible, and the other guy looked to be a pretty serious weight lifter and spent 1.25 hours in the gym each day and he lost also, but he ate A LOT of food, tons, but his calorie intake probably allowed that due to his activities. Anyway, I don't think I'll be eating at many fast food places much anyway, I like my healthy refrig, but at least some of them are offering some choices now whereas they didn't before.
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MISERY IS OPTIONAL
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HAVE A GREAT DAY!
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2004/06/19, 03:27 PM
Hey veda, yeah from what I have read about the guy he was in good shape when he started the film. Now, the other two people may or may not have had the same rules he did when eating at the Arches. If the person behind the counter asked, "Would you like to supersize that?" he had to say, "Yes." There are some other rules, too, but I haven't seen the film yet. It arrived in Charlotte yesterday, and I am going tonight. I am also taking the gf with me. In the last year she has put on 50 lbs with fast food and Coke. I still love her, but it's really bad for her heart and liver. She's only 5'2" to top it off. I am having real problems even approaching the subject of weight loss with her. If I mention it I am an uncaring bastard. If I don't, she's just hurting herself in the long run. Sorry, I ranted a little too much there.
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2004/06/19, 06:45 PM
Well said. Excellent post.
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2004/06/19, 08:15 PM
I am sorry, but I disagree. Nothing is going to stop people from going to McDonalds. It is a choice. I choice not to eat fast food everyday. I choose to exercise. I choose to document exactly how many calories I put in m body a day. It is not Mcdonald's responsibility to tell me how fattening one of their burgers are. I know that it is fattening and that I should stay away from it. Society as a whole is looking for excuses as to why they are obese. The answer is in the mirror. Like I said, Mcdonalds is getting the short end of the stick on the whole deal. I could sit in my house and get fat by eating pizza everyday.
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2004/06/19, 11:11 PM
hec, i'm not saying this will keep people from going to mcdonalds, nor am i saying that mcdonalds is the only fast food place that is feeding americans total crap. the reason i say they have any responsibility in this obesity epidemic is because of how they market their food choices.
if you advertise a salad, for instance, as being a healthy alternative, you shouldn't load it with fatty extras like bacon, cheese, and creamy dressings. and i don't care how many times i hear "fat free ranch is an alternative," NOT EVERYONE LIKES RANCH DRESSING. why not go the extra mile and offer a selection of fat free/low fat dressings instead of backing consumers into a corner with a fat free version of the nastiest dressing ever created.
on that same note, (and to get of mcdonald's back) sonic advertises their 'little cheese' as atkins friendly - this is a 2-patty, 4-bacon and cheese slice hamburger on a "low carb" bun. people looking to lose weight without exercising, like most people on fad diets, will buy into this because they think they're following the "revolutionary" atkins diet. give me a break. eating like that you'll lose an artery to a quadruple bypass before you lose 5 pounds.
as a person who lives in what has been a perennial list topper in the fastest U.S. cities rankings, i see a lot of obese people every day, and none of them are eating what i'm eating. i'm not saying that the individual is not responsible for the food choices that he or she makes, but it wouldn't hurt to have the people who are stuffing their faces giving them a little guideance.
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2004/06/20, 05:51 AM
once again. good post. I agree with howdie. McDonalds has to be put to blame here. It is one thing to sell chit and tell people it's chit. It's quite another to sell chit and tell people they're eating good stuff. To look at McDonalds as a martyr is all wrong. sorry. It is an evil empire that should be looked at as such.
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2004/06/20, 10:33 PM
I'm a bit mixed here, I must say....I believe that in order for a person to realize they have a problem they must admit to it and take responsibility for it, thus I have come here to FT and said "I am fat, there have been some circumstances that have not helped me in this area, but ultimately, it is of my own doing and my own choices and I can only change my behaviors and the way I eat and exercise, etc." So, it is only I that can stuff my face with garbage, no one has spoon fed me since toddler age. Unfortunately, there are those that learn to late, as WAnglais1 has stated with his dearest, it creeps up on you and WHAM! Some people truly believe they can eat a parfait and a loaded salad weighted down with a zillion salad dressing calories, and be eating healthy, because they believe that they are eating off a "healthier" menu and it isn't a burger.
And I also believe - and it is well known by individuals that have the expertise and knowledge - that there is a BIG problem in many areas of the food industry; food labels shout low fat and really aren't if you do the percentages, they scream at you low carbs and yet they are crappy carbs to begin with so what's the point, the restaurants tempt you with foods saying they have "healthy" choices and yet if you are knowledgeable, you know they are not...what I am trying to say is there are a lot of people (my husband included) that have never paid much attention to nutrition labels, but will read and take as gospel the "low fat" or whatever claims they state labels popping out at them (not nutritional labels), they will see a commercial and when they go to the restaurant, they will feel they are eating healthy when ordering off the new "healthy" menu's, as that is what the commercials claim to be good for them - so the unsuspecting or nieve individual may make some terrible choices due to their hopes of honesty. Those are the individuals that are losing out, because they haven't the knowledge to know what is bad and may just believe the crap out there. Sad, but true. If one does not know the damn has broke, how can they take up higher ground, they can't they just get swept under in dispair.
So, I believe we cannot allow the food industry to lie to those innocents, to the public, but if we are truly concerned with our health, it is up to us to check things out - as I've learned, I battle this one ultimately alone and food can be my friend or it can be my enemy, I owe it to myself to figure that out and if I don't know, I join a great group like FT and read, listen and learn.
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MISERY IS OPTIONAL
***When you are up to your ears in trouble, try using the part that is not submerged.
***The difference between a dream and a goal is a plan.
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
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2004/06/21, 09:01 AM
I did see this over the weekend. I thought his choices were a little extreme. But, one of the rules was to try everything on the menu. I would've been out there. The triple quarter pounder w/cheese Supersized was just disgusting. There were half a pound of french fries in that box! No wonder he threw up. Also, the fact that the salads have as many calories as a Big Mac. Of course, you have to use the entire pack of dressing that comes with it to get all the calories. And most people will. Or get an extra pack.
I worked at Mickey D's once between radio gigs. It was awful. We were required to try to up-size people. If someone ordered fries, we had to say, "Large fries?" Half the time people would say, "Yes," not even thinking. I hated it. The worst was this little boy who came in with his grandmother every other day. They got the hotcakes and sausage platter. He always got extra syrup. Here was this kid, not even 10 years old, and he seemed nice enough, but he was already easily over 100 lbs. I knew his life had to be hell at school. (It was for me when I was his age and fat.) I wanted to just tell Grandma that she was killing him...but I couldn't. I had to try to sell them hash browns instead. It really made me cry during my break. Finally, I decided enough was enough. I quit the job and worked in a theatre the rest of the time I was looking for work. I think about that kid sometimes. And it still upsets me when I do.
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2004/06/21, 07:41 PM
That's crazy. You have to forget you have a conscience sometimes, I guess. Maybe the kid is a member here now, and looks better than ever.
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2004/06/21, 11:51 PM
That is so sad about the little boy, but I like what david_s81 said, so try not to let it get you down, you are nice to have that concern for him, you are a very special person, WAnglais1, I hope that there are many more like you out in this world!
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I did see this over the weekend. I thought his choices were a little extreme. But, one of the rules was to try everything on the menu. I would've been out there. The triple quarter pounder w/cheese Supersized was just disgusting. There were half a pound of french fries in that box! No wonder he threw up. Also, the fact that the salads have as many calories as a Big Mac. Of course, you have to use the entire pack of dressing that comes with it to get all the calories. And most people will. Or get an extra pack.
I worked at Mickey D's once between radio gigs. It was awful. We were required to try to up-size people. If someone ordered fries, we had to say, "Large fries?" Half the time people would say, "Yes," not even thinking. I hated it. The worst was this little boy who came in with his grandmother every other day. They got the hotcakes and sausage platter. He always got extra syrup. Here was this kid, not even 10 years old, and he seemed nice enough, but he was already easily over 100 lbs. I knew his life had to be hell at school. (It was for me when I was his age and fat.) I wanted to just tell Grandma that she was killing him...but I couldn't. I had to try to sell them hash browns instead. It really made me cry during my break. Finally, I decided enough was enough. I quit the job and worked in a theatre the rest of the time I was looking for work. I think about that kid sometimes. And it still upsets me when I do.
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MISERY IS OPTIONAL
***When you are up to your ears in trouble, try using the part that is not submerged.
***The difference between a dream and a goal is a plan.
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
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2005/06/23, 02:36 PM
I work at Wendys and thats just because there is no jobs for people who are under 18.... All the fast food places hire under age and thats the only jobs around here.. its amazing all the kids who order the combos and not even the kids meals..then come back and want those fatty frostys we have..its amazing!! oh by the way i can't stand working fast food at all!!! all the customers are hungry and want, want, want, and they get rude about it..
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