|
2003/11/27, 06:46 PM
I've been smoking for the past 5 months, not a chanin smoker, but I smoke about 3-4 a day...I had a gf that chain smoked, and I got to smoking. But, I blame myself for getting into it since I know its bad. I'm trying to make a concerted effort to stop. I know I'm more likely to get cancer and heart disease if I continue, but how does smoking effect muscle gains?
|
|
|
|
2003/11/27, 06:47 PM
affect mucle gains ( i mean)
|
|
2003/11/27, 11:57 PM
I'm not sure how smoking affects muscle gain but I'm sure you'll get some answers from someone soon. There are a few really knowledgable members on here. I'm also sure that if you don't quit now it may not be as simple as just stopping whenever you want in the future. I can tell you that a couple of us are trying to quit as I type this. If you go back to the main page of this message board (General Health & Fitness Issues) and go down about 7 messages to the one entitled "kick butt" you will see who your cheerleaders and support team are. :-) If you want to quit we can help you, if you want to keep smoking, please smoke one for nerraw and I. hehehe
--------------
Pauline
Serenity is not freedom from the storm
but peace amidst the storm.
|
|
2003/11/28, 12:02 AM
I may never quit smoking. Don't get like this. Just put 'em down.
--------------
--There are no versions of the truth.--
Jeff Goldblum, Jurassic Park II
|
|
2003/11/28, 08:59 AM
Now is the time to put them down. If you're only smoking 4-5 a day, you really aren't "hooked" yet. Let them go. The GF is gone so now complete the cycle.
|
|
2003/11/28, 07:26 PM
I smoked for five years, even when I was training for my competitions. I stopped 3 years ago and feel 1000% better. I imagine how better I would have felt during that time if I didn't smoke. When you are smoking, even four or five a day, you are starving your body of oxygen, a key element in the development of muscle. You can still gain muscle while smoking, I'm living proof. Just imagine though, how much better you could gain lean mass and overall, feel better if you didn't smoke. Not to mention, constricting blood vessels, raising blood pressure, and giving yourself a bitch of an addiction. Thats the ugliness of smoking, these bad effects are a long slow process; people claim they can quit anytime, but do they? They don't notice the effects until months, perhaps years later. If you can stop, then please do for yourself. Smoking only 4-5 a day doesn't neccesarily mean you are not hooked, you may be. The only way to find out is to stop altogether. I noticed you said you have made an effort to stop, but you continue to smoke, sounds like you may be a little "hooked".
--------------
OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, EVERYONES GOT ONE. NOW, SHUT-UP AND GROW!!!
|
|
2003/11/28, 08:06 PM
Thanks for the info...Jdelts, yes you are right. I have tried to stop for a week or two, and then when I go out and have a couple of beers that itch comes again, and then it all starts over again. So yes, I can say I'm may be hooked a bit. Just because i don't smoke a a pack, doesn't mean I am not addicted a little. Its frustrating to a point because I realize the negatives aspects it. I realize the its kinda hypocritical to be all pumped to go the gym and then I go get a smoke. Its hard to explain, and at times I feel I can overcome it and then i kinda relapse. I'm trying and hope in the next couple of weeks I can go out and have fun with my friends and not be tempted. Its will power, and right now I'm not getting it done.
|
|
2003/11/28, 08:43 PM
I know exactly how you feel. At one point about five years ago, I quit for about six months, I started dating this girl who smoked and one led to two, two to four, and so on....I especially understand the part about going out, having a few, then lighting up. Its a tough habit to kick; to this day I sometimes crave one. Welcome to the world of addiction; even when you know the negative aspects and you tell yourself you can quit at any time, and you don't. I'm not saying you're strung out!LOL, but this how it creeps up on you. Good luck man.
--------------
OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, EVERYONES GOT ONE. NOW, SHUT-UP AND GROW!!!
|
|
2003/12/01, 11:48 AM
Hey cl909,
There is a group of us working our way out of the habit right now, join us!
To answer your question on muscle effects, haven't a clue, but can't believe for a moment that it's any good. All I can say is that I am performing so much better having put down my last smoke over two weeks ago.
It's hell. But worth it, yes you said it earlier that stuff can kill you & I have smoked for twenty years!
Quit now while you're only at five a day it only gets tougher and believe it or not but 90% of it is in the mind.
|
|
2003/12/01, 03:04 PM
HOORAAAH nerraw! I've been wondering about you. Today is my last day of smoking guys. I am a huge fan of support groups, I have always believed there is power in numbers. Care to join us cl909?? Is there anyone else out there who is sorta wanting to quit but not quite ready, been thinking but not sure? Now is the time, jump on the team with us.
--------------
Pauline
Serenity is not freedom from the storm
but peace amidst the storm.
|
|
2003/12/01, 03:31 PM
Hey Pauline..
I entered a post for you under "kicked butt".
Go girl, it's a living hell, but it gets better.
cheers,
Warren
|
|
2003/12/01, 08:44 PM
oh geeeez, as if quitting smoking isn't going to drive me crazy enough the first few days, now I have to read two different message strings and post everything twice. Just shoooot me now!!!! ROTFLMBO!! O.K. guys, I am going back to the original "kicked butt" messages, unless you all want to watch me slowly lose my mind twice. hahaha
--------------
Pauline
Serenity is not freedom from the storm
but peace amidst the storm.
|
|
2003/12/04, 02:40 PM
i smoked 2-3 packs for 28 yrs. i have been smoke free for 15 months and feel 100% better and lost 40lbs. the reason i quit is that my mom had COPD and complications of that resulted in her death. i went cold turkey 3 wks after the funeral.you can quit if you have your mind set. beer was my downfall when smoking but that has passed.stop now while you have the want to.........good luck
|
|
2003/12/08, 04:28 PM
I've been quitting off and on for about 10 years, tried accupuncture didn't work, won't even mention cold turkey, the patch is helping, but my will power is the problem, I use smoking as a stress release, I don't know about muscle growth directly but the cardio is suffering from my habit. Do what it takes to quit.
|
|
2004/02/13, 05:43 PM
bump
|
|
2004/02/18, 10:23 AM
Some help with quitting....botanical that's been shown to help smokers is Plantago Major. In the December 2000 HSI Members Alert, we told you how Plantago Major (commonly called the Broadleaf Plantain) has been found effective in treating lung ailments. In one 1982 clinical trial, for example, it reduced chronic bronchitis in 80 percent
of the patients tested.
Almost 15 years ago, Dr. Mary Cody, a physician and researcher, found that Plantago Major creates a natural aversion to tobacco when inhaled or ingested. In a 1992 study, 24 heavy smokers were given Plantago Major tincture in a nasal spray and then instructed to smoke. More than 80 percent of the subjects reported an aversion to tobacco shortly after receiving the dose, and the effect lasted as long as 24 hours for some of the subjects.
Dr. Cody's Plantago Major formula was patented shortly afterthat trial and is now available as a product called CIG-NO. Unlike nicotine patches or nicotine gum, which deliver the exact chemical you're trying to avoid, CIG-NO (which is sprayed under the tongue) creates an almost immediate reduction in cigarette cravings, with no reported side effects. For more information, visit cigno.com. Hope this helps.
--------------
If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
|
|
2004/11/15, 09:08 PM
I Recently was called home, My dad is in the hospital and is dying from emphazima. I was the only one that could take care of him, everyone else couldn't handle it. I am afraid to end up like him I have a daughter and I don't want her to have to take care of me. So I am ready to quit smoking. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to get through the first 3 days. I have made it for 1 day and go back the second. I am hoping for some advise. What did you do to keep your mind off it?
|
|
2004/11/16, 11:24 AM
If you try not to think of something you can not help but think of it. Every time you start to think about a smoke picture your dad. Get a picture of him in the hospital and carry it around to look at. I quit about 2 1/2 trs ago and still think about it, when I do I think about my 2 1/2 yr old twins and what it would be like for them to grow up with out me.
--------------
I will get to it as soon as I am done lifting.
|
|
2004/11/16, 02:14 PM
SherriBeth,
You have to keep yourself busy, specially trying to do things that don't make you feel like having a smoke afterwards. I think eating and waking or going to bed were the hardest times for me, specially the eating! Getting up and doing something after eating really helps.
Habits have to be replaced with another habit, for a lot that would be eating :( I replaced mine with exercise and learning everything possible about diet and exercise. It is definitely my new habit and a very healthy one to :) I made a conscience effort not to replace my addiction with food and thankfully it worked.
My sole reason for quitting? My 2 girls:love: If I didn't have them I'd still be smoking without a doubt! I want to be there for them and to be able to enjoy my grandkids if they so choose to have any ; ) To continue smoking and shortening my life would not only cheat myself but them to.
Quitting smoking was one of the hardest things I have ever done. Addictions are painful and in some cases more painful for some than others, I was one of those "some" and proud to say I did it! Smoke free for almost 4 yr. now :big_smile:
--------------
Damselfly
Quit being a sheep, they only get led to slaughter
|
|
2004/11/16, 04:07 PM
I was a smoker all through college but always told myself I'd quit when I graduated. I graduated in June and quit the cigs in July, but actually I began chewing skoal. Not really what I was shooting for as I just replaced the source of my nicotine. I quit chewing snuff a month ago and was completely nicotine free. Unfortunately, I got drunk last Monday and went out and bought a pack of cigs. Now I've been smoking one every night after my parents go to bed, just like I used to do when I was in high school 6 years ago. I think it's possible to quit permanently, as I've been off nicotine for 2-3 months before, but I'm not sure if the cravings ever leave.
I find that if I workout really hard, or do some cardio, then I don't crave a smoke, because I'm already trying to catch my breath. :angry:
|
|
2004/12/02, 10:46 AM
Hello...I am a smoker too, a pack a day..I tried quitting last year when I did the Toronto Half Marathon...I thought I was doing great, because I stopped smoking for a while..but as soon as I finished the Half Marathon, first thing i did was smoke!!
|
|
2004/12/02, 06:49 PM
I smoked for 17 years before I quit. What helped me was doing cardio when I had nicotine attacks and carrying a bottle of water and cinnomon sticks around with me everywhere. Every time I wanted to smoke I took a drink of water or sucked on my cinnomon stick. Just holding it in my hand and having something to do helped. Also I avioded all bars, coffee shops and friends who smoked for 3 months. I kept in touch via email until I could stand to be around them again. Hope this helps you! Good luck :big_smile:
|
|
2004/12/03, 12:09 AM
I've been quit for 6 days now. I highly suggest going over to http://www.quitnet.com as that site was extremely helpful in helping me quit. I put a link up to freetrainers there for people who are gonna start exercising after they quit, so I figured I may as well come full circle, and post a link up to them from here :)
Good luck quitting :love:
|
|
2004/12/03, 09:03 AM
well done on your 6 days!
you are definitely past the hardest part.
good luck
|
|
2004/12/03, 02:02 PM
I am on day 13 without a cigarette. I have been smoking since I was 12 years old, and I quit on November 20, the day after my 30th birthday. I was up to a pack and a half a day, and always promised myself that I will quit no matter what when I turn 30. It is the roughest thing I have ever had to do. But in the long run, I know it is so worth it
|
|
2004/12/03, 02:03 PM
oh, I, like Leedogg, have been using the quitnet site. It has excellent quitting advice.
|
|
2004/12/05, 11:02 PM
Princess: Thanks, I'm pretty sure I'm done with 'em for good and happy that I can quit at a reasonably young age.
Jay: WTG dude. We're past the hardest parts now. What's your user name at quitnet?
|
|
2005/05/29, 06:17 PM
You look great ! I'm also Scottish and live in Canada. Trying to quit smoking and keep my hands busy. Keep up the good work sexy.
Alex
|
|
2005/05/29, 06:25 PM
Can anyone tell me how to stop overwelming urges to grab a cigarette? O.K. so far but losing desire. 4th day.
Thanks, Alex.
|
|
2005/05/29, 09:03 PM
Umm spudspinner39, this post was first posted in 2003. More than likely most of the people on this post are no longer members or are not active. Your new I know, I did the same thing when I first started. But try to stick with newer posts rather than searching all the old ones. You can look at them for advice, but the best thing is to stick with the first page. Take care.
|
|
2005/06/09, 12:04 PM
I dont think that the urge ever goes away. When I quit for 2 years, I actually had to take the cigarette lighter out of my car because, by habit, I would get in, click my seat belt and push the lighter in. It took me 9 months to stop rolling over, pressing snooze on my alarm and reaching for my smokes in the morning,knowing they werent there. When you get the urge to smoke, stick something in your mouth. Carrot sticks, celery, clove or cinnamon sticks or gum. If none of those are available, drink water or brush your teeth. Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
