Group: General Fitness & Exercise

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Various general exercise related discussions. Find out what it takes to reach your fitness goals through daily effective exercise. With so many options we try to find out what works best.

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SFGiantsMVP
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2006/12/11, 03:56 PM
Thanks!

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Quoting from ecle5c:

I agree with both BB1 and Mutt. Pick one of those over the original post and I think you will experience better gains.

I prefer antagonist workouts, you get a direct and an indirect workout each week. In a way it is two workouts without the direct strain of doing it twice.
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SFGiantsMVP
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2006/12/11, 03:53 PM
Well this is looking GREAT!

Just did Back, Shoulders and Abs and I tell you I got to hit Shoulders and traps like never before because my delts wern't beat up by chest presses!

Thanks BB1 and Mutt, although I have done Mutts routine in the past I'm currently hittting Legs really hard and it takes me 2 days to recover from so Forearms is best to do that day because I only do 1 routine of 3 sets with Forearms.
7707mutt
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2006/12/11, 02:38 PM
I set it that way BB cause for me shoulders took little effort to do in comparsion to other body parts.....I tey to keep legs and back seperate (when I did a split like this). But you can set it up how you like.....I found tht this one worked great for me for years.....lots of room toplay with in terms of actual body parts worked.

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bb1fit
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2006/12/11, 02:31 PM
Normally if you notice I shy away from 'routine' posts as most are from folks who will not follow through anyway, or will argue not knowing what they are talking about.

The only reason I responded to this one is SFG is a upstanding member, and I believe will for sure take criticism/advice.

I like Mutts plan too, it is basically the same, antagonist, except for me personally I find it difficult to do much more after legs(though there is some evidence that test levels are higher at this point), so I do them on a day by themselves.

And especially so if shoulders is an emphasis for you...

but either should do well for you.

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ecle5c
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2006/12/11, 01:54 PM
I agree with both BB1 and Mutt. Pick one of those over the original post and I think you will experience better gains.

I prefer antagonist workouts, you get a direct and an indirect workout each week. In a way it is two workouts without the direct strain of doing it twice.
SFGiantsMVP
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2006/12/10, 09:54 PM
OK time to switch it up again and this is what I want to do but as usual When In Doubt I'll seek advice.

I want to start hitting Shoulders and traps harder as for I have been doing a chest, shoulders and Tri's day but I want to go another route.

So lets see how many thumbs-up vs thumbs-down I get!

Monday: Back, Bi's, Forearm and Abs

Tuesday: Chest and Tri's

Wednesday: Cardio

Thursday: Legs and Abs

Friday: Shoulder and Traps

Each day will consist of at least 30 minutes of heavy lifting and no more the 45!
ecle5c
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2006/12/10, 10:25 PM
I would personally switch the following:

Monday: back, traps, forearm, abs
Friday: shoulders and biceps

Just my 2 cents take it or leave it.
SFGiantsMVP
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2006/12/10, 10:48 PM
I work a push and pull routine, 1 day push 1 day pull and shoulder trap days is both a push and pull.

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Quoting from ecle5c:

I would personally switch the following:

Monday: back, traps, forearm, abs
Friday: shoulders and biceps

Just my 2 cents take it or leave it.
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bb1fit
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2006/12/10, 11:55 PM
I think you will see more results if you go with an antagonist type workout. That is instead of working all pull movements/all push movements, work opposite.

For instance, doing back, bis you are most probably overworking the bi's and taking away some strength. More efficient overload, more chance of growth. I believe you will see a nice jump in strength doing this...again this normally translates to gains.

You might consider doing back and shoulders..antagonist plus they tie in well with each other. One will not effect the strength of the other as much as if you do pushing or pulling movements.

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SFGiantsMVP
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2006/12/11, 12:22 AM
So lets see how many thumbs-up vs thumbs-down I get!

Monday: Back, Shoulders and Abs

Tuesday:

Wednesday: Chest, Bis's and Tri's

Thursday:

Friday: Legs, forearm and Abs

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Quoting from bb1fit:

I think you will see more results if you go with an antagonist type workout. That is instead of working all pull movements/all push movements, work opposite.

For instance, doing back, bis you are most probably overworking the bi's and taking away some strength. More efficient overload, more chance of growth. I believe you will see a nice jump in strength doing this...again this normally translates to gains.

You might consider doing back and shoulders..antagonist plus they tie in well with each other. One will not effect the strength of the other as much as if you do pushing or pulling movements.


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7707mutt
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2006/12/11, 08:01 AM
Try this
Chest, Bi
Back tirceps
Shoulders, legs

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SFGiantsMVP
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2006/12/13, 04:01 PM
Wow, when he's right he's Right!

Just did Wednesday: Chest, Bis's and Tri's with the new change-up and last week while doing back and Bi's I took a 60 pound bearbell off th rack 1st set of Curls and 80 on the last, Well this week I took 90 pounds on the 1st set and breezed right through it.

No cheat curls either, locked in and stable lifts.

Here Comes the GAINS is all I can say LOL!