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2003/05/21, 09:01 AM
I've written before about the same subject over and over. I've gotten really great advice, but alas...I'M GAINING WEIGHT and NO, I'm not getting any smaller. I feel heavier, I feel bulkier and my clothes are tighter.
I've used the Basic program and I feel firmer, plus I walked/jogged 2 miles 3xs a week, jump rope and I ate cleaner (which I HATED). Oh and about the eating, I increased my caloric intake from 1,200 to 1,600 (I use fitday.com too and I average 1,400 calories). I did have the "cheat" day, but that makes it worse. Because I can't stop after that...no I don't overeat, infact left to my own devices I would only eat the 1,200 calories every day.
So any suggestions before I contact a plastic surgeon for some liposuction? Oh and for those wondering, 35 y.o. female, hourglass shaped, not small boned so my weight loss goals shouldn't be too hard, I want to weigh 140-145. I started the program at 150 and now I'm at 156!
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2003/05/21, 09:20 AM
Let's get you some help here. :) I think more information is needed to truly figure out what is going on. What is an example of your weekly routine? For example, list for each day:
Wake up time
What supplements (if any) are you taking & times
Time, portion size and content of every food eaten
Time and content of exercises
Bed time
I can't do a cheat day. When I do it makes me have more than I should because I start to rationalize other foods. I find it's best for me to stick strictly to a meal plan.
We'll figure it out! :) Don't do anything drastic hon. :)
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~Jennifer
http://www.gwindalyn.com
If you dont stand for something, you will fall for anything.
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2003/05/21, 09:53 AM
No way!! We'll help you figure out where the bug is....
:o)
I'm with Gwin...can't do cheat days...I have ONE cheat day and one turns into a whole week :o)
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2003/05/21, 10:02 AM
I am having the same problem, but we THINK we have it narrowed down to diet, I am not eating enough calories. I have been "dieting" so long that my mentality is eat low cal. I work out with a trainer twice a week, Tuesday and Thursday. We are doing "aerobic" type weights (I do 3 sets, approx 25 reps each, with 30 seconds rest between) for 1 hour. I also do the elliptical 4-5 times per week, 30 min and burn anywhere from 300 - 341 cals in that time. I try to eat as clean as possible but have a really hard time eating above 1200-1300 cals per day. I have started taking ZMA at bedtime and been having a protein drink (usually Myoplex Lite) each day. I am have 3 meals and 3 snack "meals" each day and try to have my larger meal at lunch with protein and green veggies at night.
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2003/05/21, 11:31 AM
Thanks for responding! Well here's my usual day
Awake at 7:00 a.m. - (get my daughter to school)
Walk/jog at 8:00 a.m. 1/2 at a track (level surface)
Jump rope 100xs
Breakfast at 9:30 a.m.
Usually breakfast is oatmeal, with soy milk, sugar substitute and a piece of fruit
11:30 - light yogurt
12:30 - lunch (turkey on rye bread, w/mustard) 2 cups of green tea and fruit (no veggies included)
4:00 p.m. - free trainers excercise, plus an additional arms routine with 2lb weights.
5:00 - fruit (usually strawberries)- 2 - 3 cups of water (I don't like water, I throw a lemon in it)
6:30 - chicken (God I am sick of chicken now)- no sauces, not fried, not breaded or fish of some kind generally baked, a green vegetable (e.g. string beans, peas, or my daughter's favorite spinach) with brown rice. Leftovers serve as tomorrow's lunch
9:00 - more fruit...hey I'm hungry or an energy bar/meal replacement (usually fruit though...I don't like those energy bars)
I got to bed around 1:00 a.m.
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2003/05/21, 11:36 AM
I see the need for lots more protein at least......
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deadlifts rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2003/05/21, 12:21 PM
I agree, but how can I get more protein? Also, I forgot to mention I take Centrum vitamins, the ones that are for more energy.
Oh and my jog/walk that's 2 miles, 1/2 hour 3xs a week.
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2003/05/21, 12:25 PM
Well replace some of the fruit with like tuna or steak, and for breakfast add soem eggs and egg whites!
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deadlifts rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2003/05/21, 12:29 PM
Hey Prusgirl,
Welcome. Maybe consider a couple scoops of a protein powder in a water bottle to take with you on your walk... or to start sipping while getting your daughter ready for school. You could get upwards of 50g of protein before "breakfast"!. Another sometime during the day would really help to increase the protein intake!
Good luck!
TSMD
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2003/05/21, 12:49 PM
Keep in mind that I'm no expert and only starting myself. All of my suggestions are based on what I've been told to do myself by others here at FT that I consider experts.
The first thing I notice is not enough protein and not much sleep. The second thing I noticed was no food before that first workout in the morning, and no protein after the workout. I also see a lot of carbs/sugar. Carbs aren't necessarily bad, and it looks like yours are from the right type of foods, but it looks like your main ingredient in every meal is carbs. The water is a BIG thing. You have to drink water. I also hate it. :) I basically just force myself to drink it. It has to be ICE ICE cold and the only kind I can drink is distilled drinking water. HIIT may also help you.
Not sure if you work and may need to readjust times and such, but here is what I'd do:
7am - wake
8am - 3 scrambled egg whites, 1 cup soy milk, 1 slice toasted whole grain bread w/1tbsp natural peanut butter
8:30am - Mon, Wed, & Fri do 30 mins HIIT & jumprope. Tues & Thurs do your normal jog/walk. After three weeks, switch them or replace jog/walk with bicyling. Don't let your body get used to you doing something. Always change things up and keep your body adapting.
10am - 1/2 cup oatmeal(not instant), 1 piece fresh fruit (apple, grapefruit, strawberry, peach), 1 cup water
12:30 - 6oz tuna (or salmon or chicken breast), 1 cup green tea, 1 cup water, 1 cup salad greens w/1tbsp fat free dressing, 1/2 cup either kidney beans, black beans, lima beans, spinach, or brown rice.
3:30 - 1/2 cup fat free cottage cheese w/ 1 chopped tomato, 1 cup water
4:00 - ft exercise & additional arms
5:00 - 3oz chicken breast (or salmon, tuna, lean beef), 1 cup salad greens w/1tbsp fat free dressing, 1 cup vegetable (i'd skip peas & go for spinach, broccoli, green beans, carrots), 1 cup water
7:30 - protein. Since you are used to fruit here and don't really like the bars, try 3oz fat free yogurt instead.
9:00 - It is ok to eat this late if you are hungry. :) I'd skip the fruit this late though. Stick with protein only. 1/2 cup fat free cottage cheese would be good. Don't forget 1 cup water!
Disclaimer: I have not counted the calories in this. You may need to adjust portions to stay withing your target calorie range.
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~Jennifer
http://www.gwindalyn.com
If you dont stand for something, you will fall for anything.
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2003/05/21, 01:02 PM
Great going Gwin! Disclaimer a good idea... Hmmm...Now how about more of those recipes of yours <smile> I'll copy 'em if you just want to mail me the books...lol....kidding.
prusgirl - :o) Adding lemon to water is a great idea....
I've seen posts where people have mentioned adding splenda to the mix as well to make it seem more like a "watered down" lemonade.
Or sugar-free Crystal Light...
Nothing can replace plain old water in the diet though.
I can only drink it room temp myself...Cold tends to give me a head/tooth ache.
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2003/05/21, 01:26 PM
Great advice from everyone. Like Gwin, I notice that you aren't getting enough sleep. Do you have to stay up this late, or are you just a night owl? I too have problems with that and have to make myself go to bed on time. I was having some of the same problems as you and deby, as I have a lot of body fat to lose. I wasn't eating enough for the amount of exercise I was doing. It is still hard to eat more without feeling guilty, and getting in the protein needed is my hardest, but it is slowly getting up there. I was told that I might gain weight at first, but that eventually (and I hate that word, as I want specifics...lol) my body would adjust and I would see results. It has only been 3 weeks, so I am still in the learning phase of this new eating plan. I do have a protein shake (soy) in the am and another one as soon after my workout as possible (another thing I wasn't doing properly-getting a good amount of protein in post-workout). If you stick with this site and these 'great advice givers', I think you will find what works for you. The thing that seems to be the hardest to deal with for those of us with a lot of body fat to lose is wanting it to happen sooner rather than later. You are not alone, so hang in there and keep changing things a little at a time until it works for you.
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2003/05/21, 02:02 PM
Another thing you could try is cycling your carbohydrates from high on sunday to very low on Saturday, that is one of the ways to strip bodyfat for a competition.
Gwin gives good advice! So I don't think I will add a lot.
Whey protein is higher quality than soy, might try switching to that.
And lift heavier - you need to stimulate your muscles, not just go through the motions. Give them a reason to burn calories for you. Push it, sweat!
I don't really agree with 'aerobic' weight training - you need to get in there and do some heavy, muscle stimulating work.
Good Luck!
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2003/05/21, 02:06 PM
Well that sound great, I'm going give everything a try, but how long before I see any results? I was trying to get thinner before 7/4. But now, I'm at this horrible set-back and I'm very depressed.
Is there anything I can do quickly, just to rid myself of the sudden weight gain? Like go back to my old routine?
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2003/05/21, 02:09 PM
Oh, believe me, it is heavy lifting, the reason I call it aerobic is because I am SOAKING WET when I finish that hour. My hair looks like I just got out of the shower and have not even tried to dry it.
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