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How to Get Six Pack Abs

georgiagirl
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2007/07/20, 08:58 AM
I found this on another forum I visit and thought it NEEDS to be here too.




Getting That Visible Sixpack

Without a doubt, the most misunderstood part about getting that "sixpack" is actually how to get it. Most people believe that doing 1,000 crunches a day, 6 days a week, will get them that sixpack they've always dreamed of. This is wrong. It also leads us to:

*Ab principle #1: Making your abs visible is all about how low your BF (bodyfat) percent is*

What's this mean? It means that no matter how many situps you do, or ab machines you use, if you have a high BF% you will not be able to see your abs.

Diet

Your diet is very important in the process of shedding fat off your body. It's just common sense that you can't stuff twinkies down your pie hole and lose fat at the same time. To lose weight, you must go on a weight loss diet, that's also common sense. How much (or little actually) do you need to eat? This brings us to:

*Ab principle #2: You must eat less than your maintenance caloric intake*

If you want to find our your true maintenance caloric intake, you'll have to monitor your diet for a couple weeks. Record everything you eat, and all the macronutrient values (protein, carbs, and fat) of what you eat. Measure your weight before the start of the week, and at the end of the week. If you're weight stayed the same, find the average amount of calories you took in each day, and that's what your body needs to maintain your current weight.

Ok, so how much less should I be taking in each day? Start off with reducing your maintenance calories by 200. Check your weight after a week. If you're losing weight as much as you want to weekly, keep that amount of calories. If you barely lose anything, reduce total calories by another 200. Keep doing this until your satisfied with what you're losing. You shouldn't have to go below 12 x bodyweight, assuming that you're doing cardio.

Now what macronutrient ratio's should you be using when trying to lose weight? Make 20-30% of your total calories come from fats, good fats of course, try and stay away from eating too many saturated fats. You should also be taking 1.3-1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight. The rest of your diet should come from carbs.

*A note on carbs: simple sugars should be avoided when trying to lose weight, with the acception of post-workout to restore glycogen. For pre and post workout nutrition, refer here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=272067*

*Ab principle #3: Protein consumption should be 1.3-1.5g/lb of bodyweight*

*Ab principle #4: Avoid simple sugars, accept post workout*

*Ab principle #5: Have 1 cheat meal every week*

Eat absolutely whatever you want, this is your meal to enjoy after the good week you've had following your strict diet. Give yourself this meal, it won't mess you up. What will mess you up is after a couple weeks of following a totally strict diet, you just go on an eating binge and gain back all the fat you just lost.

*Ab principle #6: Don't go on a low carb diet*

I'm not going to go into details with this, but we all know what you will lose weight on a low carb diet, but it's not weight that you will actually keep off for a long time.

That wraps up the basics for dieting for fat loss. Now on to cardio.

Cardio

Cardio is essential when looking to maximize fat loss, it won't be the "holy grail" that will make you lose 20lbs fast, diet and proper weight training will do that for you, but it will help, plus cardio has great health benifits. There are different ways of approaching cardio.
  • High intensity cardio. The most popular of these is HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training). Here are some good links to HIIT:

    http://www.wsu.edu/~strength/hiit.htm

    http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp

    http://www.sportsci.org/jour/0101/cf.htm
  • Low intensity cardio. When you do high intensity cardio, it usually takes about 20 minutes, while doing low intensity cardio takes longer. But in reality, the amount of calories burned is almost the same, no matter if you run it, or walk it. Some very overweight people can't handle HIIT, they could run into serious medical problems. Low intensity cardio is the perfect answer for them. Start off low and gradually build your time walking up, or increase the pace a little. Some links on low intensity cardio:

    http://www.janatrains.com/default.as...articleid=2 0

    http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/shane2.htm

    *Ab principle #7: Perform high intensity cardiovascular exercise 2-3 times weekly*

    There's no need to kill yourself doing cardio 6 times per week. Three HIIT sessions is plenty of cardio to burn fat.

    *Ab principle #8: Perform low intensity cardiovascular exercise 3-6 times weekly*

    There's no problem with taking a long walk every morning, but for someone extremely overweight, 3 times a week would be a better starting platform.

    Training the Abdominals

    Doing any type of ab workout won't get you a sixpack, we've already covered that. But it still is good to train the abdominals with resistance, because:

    * The abdominals are a muscle, and they shouldn't be neglected, just like you wouldn't neglect your chest.
    * Having a good "core" will also help and provide more safety for the big compound movements (ie squat, deadlift)


    *Ab principle #8: Train abs with resistance, with 8-15 reps*

    *Ab principle #9: Do not do ulta high rep ab work*

    You won't do yourself any good busting yourself with sets of 1,000 crunches. Keep reps low, like any other exercise, with about 8-15 reps, and use resistance.

    What exercises do you do? You can do a search anywhere and you'll find a bunch of ab exercises, but I'll give a sample one:

    Swiss ball crunches
    Hanging leg raises
    Side bends

    For each exercise, do 3 sets of 8-15 reps. Add weight when and if possible. Perform 1-3 times a week. It's nothing too complicated, and very easy to make your own ab workout.

    This wraps up ab training and how to get those visible abs. And don't forget:

    *Ab principle #10: Stay motivated, and be consistent!*



    Here's all of the principles again:

    *Ab principle #1: Making your abs visible is all about how low your BF (bodyfat) percent is*

    *Ab principle #2: You must eat less than your maintenance caloric intake*

    *Ab principle #3: Protein consumption should be 1.3-1.5g/lb of bodyweight*

    *Ab principle #4: Avoid simple sugars, accept post workout*

    *Ab principle #5: Have 1 cheat meal every week*

    *Ab principle #6: Do not go on a low carb diet*

    *Ab principle #7: Perform high intensity cardiovascular exercise 2-3 times weekly*

    *Ab principle #8: Train abs with resistance, with 8-15 reps*

    *Ab principle #9: Do not do ulta high rep ab work*

    *Ab principle #10: Stay motivated, and be consistent!*

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Davetheman26
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2007/07/25, 09:23 PM
All I see is fact here in this post.. But I don't agree with that low and high cardio exercises. Sounds like to much to me... That's if you want to maintain muscle mass..
Like what "bb1fit" said. A six pack on a guy doesn't look right if you got twigs for arms and legs.. I see nothing here about weight training. Weight training should be 1 of those principles. The full body weight training is key to a good solid core. I think the squat is the most abused exercise. What I mean by "abused" is by not doing it totally. And deadlifts.

My opinion on the six pack. Like most people say. Abs are made in the kitchen not in the gym...

age:26
height:6ft.
weight:188lbs. down from 205lbs. since June 07
chest:45in.
stomach at navel:33in.
biceps:16.5in...cold...

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Velasca
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2007/07/23, 08:30 PM
i think im genetically jinxed on abs..ive read that some ppl just cant get 6 packs....barely 2 packs for that matter..maybe my last bit of weight and body fat will prove me wrong..wish me luck..

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bibiouch
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2007/07/24, 12:22 AM
Good luck velasca !!
wrestler125
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2007/07/25, 01:49 PM
All that sounds like a lot of work though... :-/
Pinkalishus
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2007/07/31, 02:29 AM
Okay First it is alot of work and I know that it takes work to acheive things and I won't get it on a silver platter.But I just need the basics you know the sit-up,push-ups,ect.:)
tuin
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2007/07/31, 11:58 AM
Velasca, how did the abs end up? you got your 6 pack? or couldnt move from the 2 pack? :)
Bossishere
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2007/08/13, 07:34 AM
Velasca, You look superb and im sure you will have 6 pack one day. All the Best:big_smile:
blackaztec3000
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2007/09/07, 01:20 PM
Is a low carb diet really that bad. I'm getting scared now. Even though I'm on the South Beach, I still don't eat as much carbs as I used to. My goal was to lose weight build muscle and hopefully raise my metabolic rate, so that I can eat anything I want. What do you think?
ari99
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2007/09/28, 01:29 PM
Thats for the post thats really great information...
wrestler125
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2007/12/19, 11:05 AM
You can continue to diet to lose the fat on your stomach, in which case you will lose weight, or you can build muscle and gain weight, but don't try to do both at the same time. Doesn't make much sense to try to lose and gain at the same time, and I'm not sure how you think you will lose fat without losing weight.

Also, an abdominal exercise routine is not to "shed pounds" it is to build and strengthen the abdominals.

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sturddaturd
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2008/05/21, 12:16 AM
uh wrestler you can lose fat and gain weight at the same time. Muscle weighs more than fat. So the more u lose fat and gain muscle mass at the same time it will make u heavier.
2008/05/21, 08:13 AM
What in the world are you talking about? Please explain how muscle weighs more than fat? I need a good laugh today so I hope you answer soon.


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Quoting from sturddaturd:

uh wrestler you can lose fat and gain weight at the same time. Muscle weighs more than fat. So the more u lose fat and gain muscle mass at the same time it will make u heavier.
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JD88
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2008/06/23, 06:21 AM
i think he means on a volume vs volume basis, a cubic inch of muscle weighs more than a cubic inch of fat. so if you do lose fat and gain muscle your waist size will decrease but your overall weight might increase.
7707mutt
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2008/06/23, 07:16 AM
NO a cubic inch still weighs the same......fat takes more space up therefore your waist size goes down and you can add more muscle into the same space hence the MYTH that muscle weighs more.

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2008/06/23, 08:59 AM
What he meant to say and what you think he meant are complete opposites. I am just glad he did not come back.


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Quoting from JD88:

i think he means on a volume vs volume basis, a cubic inch of muscle weighs more than a cubic inch of fat. so if you do lose fat and gain muscle your waist size will decrease but your overall weight might increase.
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7707mutt
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2008/06/23, 09:02 AM
I get so tired of the "muscle weighs more than fat thing"


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7707mutt@freetrainers.com
2008/06/23, 09:06 AM
Then you should know that the other guy is correct on his cubic inch post.

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Quoting from 7707mutt:

I get so tired of the "muscle weighs more than fat thing"



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7707mutt
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2008/06/23, 09:18 AM
LOL

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JD88
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2008/06/26, 09:06 AM
So was i right or wrong? im confuzed :(
georgiagirl
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2008/06/27, 05:02 PM
KA is right the guy was right about the cubic... a cubic inch of muscle weighs more than a cubic inch of fat.

1 lb of fat takes up more space than 1 lb of muscle. Speaking on VOLUME ALONE yes muscle weighs more than fat.

Thats where the whole muscle weighs more than fat saying comes from. Its all symantics.

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hardnfit
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2008/07/07, 02:57 AM
Thats good stuff Geo gurl'

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bunny-luva
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2009/10/17, 07:06 PM
can anyone give me tips on how to lose 20lbs in 2 months?????