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2004/06/24, 09:54 AM
Here is the deal. I was at the gym yesterday doing back. I was getting ready to do the T-bar row. I look up and see a guy doing what appears to be something between a deadlift/bent over row/straight leg deadlift. I watched as he snatched the weight up with his ass high in the air. I paced back and forth as he never once bent his knees and kept his back in the rolled postion. All the while his workout partner stood there and said nothing.
You have to understand, I do not mettle in the gym. I keep to myself, I dont say nothing to anybody. He dropped the weight, ending the painful series of repetitions. Painful for me to watch, and I am sure, painful for his body to execute. Then to my amazement, his buddy gets on the bar and executes flawlessly. I think to myself "you have got to be kidding me. This guy just sat here and watched his buddy do this all wrong, and now he is doing them with perfect form". I couldn't help myself, I had to say something.
I walked over to them and very politely said "Excuse me guys, I hate to get all up in your business, but can I say something?" They both looked at me like "here we go". I said to the guy that was all jacked up "You see the way your boy was doing the deadlifts? That is how you should do them. I don't mean to be all up in your business, but I would hate to see you get hurt". They both looked at me as if I were retarded. They were annoyed by me. They hated me. I walked away and said to myself "thats the last time I do that". I mean it too. I hope his back is in knots.
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2004/06/24, 10:01 AM
I would have Thanked you. I sometimes feel like I am not doing something right. I would like it if someone came up to me to correct me. I had someone take about 10 min to show me how to better work my bi's. My bi workouts are a lot better now. You should have waited for them outside:big_smile:
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2004/06/24, 10:04 AM
Or you could have approached it differently. You could have walked up and slapped the one with perfect form and ask him why he would let his buddy hurt his back like that.
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2004/06/24, 10:08 AM
I even did it politely and with a smile on my face. Totally out of character for me.
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2004/06/24, 10:09 AM
You should consider that you did the right thing. If he does not listen to you and screws his back up, that is on him. If his ego will not let him improve, again it is on him. It is simular to what my wife always says about giving homeless people money. If she gives it to them and they buy beer instead of food, it is their decision but she did the right thing.
Nah, on second thought, you were just being rude :big_smile:
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2004/06/24, 10:10 AM
Hec, you did the right thing... even though they got upset because they think that you just wanted to interfere with their "perfect" workout... I guess they will remember you today or tomorrow when they feel the effects of not doing the exercises correctly :laugh:
-r.
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2004/06/24, 10:24 AM
You did the right thing...Lead the horse to the water, now it is up to the horse to drink. Oh, don't smile if there is a next time. Our male ego's turn deaf ears at times. Straight forward and to the point always.
Good job!
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2004/06/24, 10:34 AM
It's a bit of a dilemma for sure. I did something similar not too long ago (also very politely) when I saw a guy doing something potentially injurious - and got a similar response. Now I usually do my own thing, unless asked for advice (which also happens), then I will give it. Even when someone asks for advice they may have no intention of taking it (if it isn't what they want you to tell them). Some people ask questions for all the wrong reasons, but I believe the vast majority who ask for advice are sincere.
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2004/06/24, 10:50 AM
30 years ago I told my best friend his fiance was fooling around on him. I saw her with her old boyfriend....in my buddy's bed with her old boyfriend. I was to be his best man. I told him.
I was no longer his best man. They married......divorced 3 months later. As far as I know they both still hate me. I was right. I'd do it again. Screw 'em.
Funny the things you flash back on at the most inappropriate times. You did the right thing. Keep doin' it...Screw em.
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Charlie
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2004/06/24, 10:53 AM
I train at home but have considered joining a Gym just because of people like you Hec. I would in a second thank you and probably offer to buy you a beer for helping (unless Charlie would get jealous). Some are people are teachable and some are not. You never know.
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2004/06/24, 11:05 AM
You did the right thing. You were looking out for the guy's well-being.
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2004/06/24, 11:26 AM
You did the right thing... I would have appreciated the assistance... watch the guy next time... see how he does them.. bet it's different...
t
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2004/06/24, 12:23 PM
You did the right thing. If someone comes up to me and points out something that helps me, I'll listen. You did it the right way, and with the right attitude. It seems bad form is the norm. Even some of the big guys at my gym have poor form. They just want to heft a lot of weight around for whatever reason. I don't try to correct them, since I'm just a fat guy doing db curls with 20 lb db's. The women at my gym seem to have a better grasp on correct form. It just gripes me. You could be getting so much more benefit out of something if you do it right. So, I guess I'm saying what so many others have said...screw 'em.
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2004/06/24, 01:40 PM
Dude hec...you did the right thing.
My buddy and i up in boston would do deadlifts...i could perform them correctly...and usually my buddy would too...if i watched him. One time i had stepped away to get water for a sec, and he instinctively rolled his back...hardly bent his knees etc...and the next day his back hurt like all hell. However, at the end of his set, a guy walked up to him right as i returned and told him to keep his back straight otherwise he was gonna be in a world of hurt eventually. He said he should be doing them like i did...and we thanked him and he moved on.
Last summer however, i had a similar story to charlie's about best bud and girl. I warned him...the entire group of friends i had told me to "F*** off" like they knew what they were talking about. I come back for christmas break and it was true. She was in a new guys bed every night. My best bud came and apologized...and now we're cool. The others followed suit...
Some people know how to take advice...others don't.
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2004/06/24, 02:09 PM
No question you were on the money there...meaningful & helpful advise never hurt anyone.
If I were him, I'd have thanked you and dragged you over to another exercise that I wasn't suree about asking your instruction on that too.
Forget them, if they felt insulted too bad.
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2004/06/24, 02:36 PM
Screw'em Hec...I hear what you are saying, but its not our responsibility as FT professionals to preach to those who will not listen. I've been in that situation many-a-time and I've learned to keep my mouth shut and just sit back and enjoy the juice-heads ruin their bodies. If someone ASKS for help, then I would be much obliged.
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2004/06/24, 03:53 PM
I KNOW you did the right thing...I also KNOW how hard it was for you to be polite, especially when they started gaffing you off.:cool:
And I betcha dollars to donuts that he at least attemts to do it the right way when nobody is looking though.
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2004/06/24, 04:55 PM
Hec's the man. Deadlifts are something that people just don't do at my gym. The first time I tried doing them, everybody was looking at me funny, and then one guy came up and wanted to correct my form. He said my back was rolling when I let the bar down. I thanked him and asked for a demonstration. I then corrected the form. Constructive criticism is never a bad thing. At least you tried.
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2004/06/24, 07:50 PM
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2004/06/24, 07:50 PM
Hec, you did the right thing! I tried to help this dude who was trying to shrug 450 at a body weight of 170 he kept bounicng at his knees and stoping in pain. He just pointed at his ears and told me he is deaf. The whole gyms stops lifting when this guys is going at it to see if he hurts himself.
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2004/06/24, 08:14 PM
Hec I changed my mind.... knock their teeth out.
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Charlie
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2004/06/24, 08:59 PM
Yeah!!! Welcome to the darkside, Charlie.
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2004/06/25, 10:46 AM
i have a story which very nearly relates to this, a workmates mum came out of the staff toilets, and i noticed that her skirt was tucked into her underwears, so i told her, she took offence and said "you shouldnt tell people that, its rude and you've just embareced me!" so i said "im sorry if it ever happens again i'll say nothing.
about six months later the same thing happened, i just let her pass and go into the office. when her tea break came around, she seeked me out and said "why didnt you tell me that my skirt was all tucked in, i just walked arund like that, it was very embarrassing"
so, the moral of the story is women shouldn't wear underwear.
The End
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2004/06/25, 10:49 AM
Knock his teeth out too hec. So....this is the darkside....I kind of like it.
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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.
Charlie
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2004/06/25, 11:49 AM
Hec, you did the right thing and it is unfortunate that they just happened to be morons that couldn't just say thanks for saving me an injury.
This was the most frustrating thing I had to deal with where I used to work - I was there to teach proper procedure with the machines and yet so many people would just do their own thing saying, "this works better for me" and then come back crying to me that the machines were stupid and responsible for their knee, shoulder, etc. injuries. You want to take a dumbell and rap 'em over the head with it.
I remember, too, the rolled eyes, stares or whispers that often accompanied my very kind and only meant to be helpful, this is my job, I am qualified to tell you this, comments to members. Many times I felt like walking out the door in exasperation, but knowing that if even one person listens and is spared injury, I have done a good deed.
You did a good deed, and I would venture to guess that even though you got the duhhh look, that guy will probably adjust next time, let's hope. If not, well, he'll feel it won't he and that is what ignorance brings.
Good job on the kindness and patience thing, sometimes it works - sometimes it just works slower!
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