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HIIT after weight training workout

Papish Posts: 13 Joined: 2004/02/07	2004/02/12, 06:36 PM Good or bad? Have heard both. Thanks for the help.
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2004/02/12, 06:39 PM How about hard. I find it hard to get into a full cardio session after a hard weight lifting one. I would suggest putting time between the two (say 1/2 a day or more). -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
goldengloves Posts: 690 Joined: 2003/09/19	2004/02/12, 06:40 PM I do it on my off days for about 15-20 minutes Monday/tuesday-weight train Wednesday-HIIT thursday/friday/weight train Saturday-HIIT
pimple Posts: 490 Joined: 2003/07/08	2004/02/12, 09:30 PM like pacheco said, it's HARD... i've heard of people who claim to hiit after they lift, but i don't know about the quality of it... even if they can actually handle them both, it's theorically a bad idea do to that... bb1 can tell you the science behind it being a bad idea, but the point of the story is that you end up losing lean tissue if you do that... just lift the weights, take your protein right after it, rest and do your cardio the day after... i don't think you'll actually see any incredibly scandalist results from doing both weights and cardio the same day... just do them on different days, and you should be okay... if you do decide to go ahead and try both together (same day), i can almost guarantee you that you'll get tired and sick of if after a few weeks, specially if you're just getting into this stuff... the key here is patience... good luck -------------- 8.3 http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=GEKZGLA&key=RLE
JessicaR Posts: 467 Joined: 2002/08/12	2004/02/13, 01:35 PM Personally I really LIKE doing HIIT after weights - it may be bad, but for some reason I like to finish off my gym time that way. It leaves me feeling good. I didn't know it was bad. Oh well. :) I will probably continue to do it that way.
spenco Posts: 76 Joined: 2003/07/24	2004/02/13, 10:43 PM so its dettermental to do cardio after a workout? i thought that the best times to do it were in the morning and after a workout?
treeny Posts: 22 Joined: 2004/01/15	2004/02/14, 05:40 AM That's what I thought. And that's what the exercise program on this site tells you to do - cardio after the workout. Can someone in the know comfirm this one way or another?
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2004/02/14, 09:01 AM A HIIT session would be very detrimental if you are trying to gain lean mass. As I have mentioned numerous times, and without getting into the science here, cortisol will be running rampant after a tought weight training session. Now, add on top of that a HIIT session which with its anerobic and aerobic components which in many ways rival a weight training session, and you can see what will happen. You will not only burn any chance of gaining any lean tissue, but most assuredly use some of what you already have also, making matters even worse. Then add to that if you do not have a recovery drink, you are doing yourself a great disservice. You are using a ton of calories for sure, and you will see the scale go down, but it will not be in a good way, you will be destroying your muscle to fat ratio even moreso, and weight gain can happen much more easily. Metabolism will slow in response, thyroid will work less than optimally, and there will be long term dividends to pay for a short term fix. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
treeny Posts: 22 Joined: 2004/01/15	2004/02/14, 10:39 AM So HIIT is a big no no. What about a 25 minute gentle cardio session say on a bike after a workout? Or would I be best doing a workout in the evening and the cardio around midday. My goals are to lose fat and tone up. Current bf percentage is 27%. I initially want to get it to under 20% and then maybe look at bulking up from there. Thanks in advance.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2004/02/14, 10:50 AM It is always better for a long term result to separate the two as best you can. YOu want to recover from an intense weight training session so you can build lean mass, and the best way to accomplish this is to "feed" your body what it needs to start the healing process immediately. No lean tissue can or ever will be built because protein synthesis will simply NOT occur if there is an insufficient or delayed supply of energy and amino acids to offset post-workout catabolism. Now, an "active" recovery can be of use, such as a as you put it, gentle cardio session post workout, but this should be no more than about 7-10 minutes, and just to get nutrient rich blood to all areas of the body. This is not meant to be a workout, but as mentioned, an active form of recovery. I prefer not to do even this, but it is "allowable". Immediately get your nutrients in though. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
angelsnow Posts: 122 Joined: 2003/02/11	2004/02/14, 11:43 AM Thanks BB for this info I now understand it a whole better .I also appreciate the many things I have learned since I have come here . The patience that members display in helping newcomers is awesome and truly appreciated.
Carivan Posts: 8,542 Joined: 2002/01/20	2004/02/14, 11:57 AM In the past I would do cardio b4 and after training, results were very slow. Now that I only do 10 minutes b4 as a warm up, and my real running on off days the results for both have really improved. Do the hiit on off days, and a little warm-up b4 the weights. -------------- "A will finds a way" Ivan Montreal Canada
spenco Posts: 76 Joined: 2003/07/24	2004/02/14, 03:44 PM so no cardio on lifting days save for a light warm up?
Diana123 Posts: 135 Joined: 2003/02/03	2004/02/14, 04:17 PM My question to add to this is: what exactly is meant by a tough weight training session? I mean, I do the FT program but I'm not dying or anything during the session...I do what is written in the program and am in no way too tired for some cardio afterward. That is why I never even worried about doing my exercise program this way.
Reddy Posts: 597 Joined: 2003/09/11	2004/02/14, 04:20 PM that is what I'm picking up
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2004/02/14, 05:05 PM A tough workout is one where you know you depleted glycogen, or close to it. Meaning, you did forced reps, you did supersets, you exerted yourself. You know your energy expenditure. You EARNED your post workout nutrition. If you just went through the motions, or feel in no way like you worked hard, then this does not qualify, and do what you want. You more than likely don't need the post workout shake, as it will be too much for you. This also is something you must earn to benefit from. This protocol is for the serious(not that you aren't), but intense bb/weight trainee who is in it for maximum muscle gains. For the casual lifter, do not worry, just make sure you guage your expenditure, and use your judgement so you don't slow your gains/losses. ============ Quoting from Diana123: My question to add to this is: what exactly is meant by a tough weight training session? I mean, I do the FT program but I'm not dying or anything during the session...I do what is written in the program and am in no way too tired for some cardio afterward. That is why I never even worried about doing my exercise program this way. ============= -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....