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2005/07/07, 05:10 PM
Can someone compare/contrast Full Body circuit training and split training? Who should do full body and who should do the split? What are the advantages/disadvantages of each? Any other info you have would be helpful...
Thanks!
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2005/07/07, 05:57 PM
fully body=beginners/those limited in time/
split=bodybuilders, functional trainers, powerlifters, strongmen...
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2005/07/07, 05:57 PM
in a nut shell, full body training would be used to supplement, say, a marathon runner or swimmer to build muscle, yet be secondary to their endurance training. full body training is also useful for beginners, or for people who are grossly out of shape, to get into a regimen. typically, people switch over to split training.
split training is more specific, and will ultimately lead to greater muscle gains. you can focus on specific parts and utilize more exercises/angles etc. to really target muscles.
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2005/07/07, 10:32 PM
Which is recommended for someone trying to lose a lot of weight -- split or full body? I'm 5'10" and 258. I've already lost over 70lbs since January 31st!
Thanks!
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Dave
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2005/07/08, 04:22 AM
great work on weight loss!!!
do full body split...2-3 days a week of compound exercises....
Squats
Deadlifts
Rows
Incline Barbell Bench Press
Flat Close Grip Bench Press
Pull Ups/Pulldowns
Shrugs
Crunches
EZ-Bar Curls
Stiff Legged Deadlifts
3-4 sets of each exercise...where you should try to come close to your X rep max on last set...so if you're lifting in the 6-8 rep range...last set of each exercise should be so that you can't perform another rep beyond the 8 reps...without assistance....
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2005/07/08, 04:23 AM
Military Barbell Presses
Standing Calf Presses
should also be in there...
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2005/07/08, 07:53 AM
don't forget lunges:)
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2005/07/08, 09:31 AM
This is exactly what I did. Full body circuits for about 2-3 months before switching to a Split. It was great for losing weight and building endurance, as well as getting muscles toned up and to get familiar with the equipment. But I'm seeing great progress with the split right now...even though I still got a few lbs to lose I'm gaining some muscle, but finding it hard to lose much more weight even though I'm still doing my cardio. May cut to a heavy cardio for a few weeks after my 8 week program is over in 3 weeks. Do straight full body and cardio for about 3-4 more weeks then move to a bulking phase and cutting out all cardio.
I get excited every time I change up my program cause I know to expect new things. Have fun with it and you can expect to see great results.
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Quoting from bropie:
in a nut shell, full body training would be used to supplement, say, a marathon runner or swimmer to build muscle, yet be secondary to their endurance training. full body training is also useful for beginners, or for people who are grossly out of shape, to get into a regimen. typically, people switch over to split training.
split training is more specific, and will ultimately lead to greater muscle gains. you can focus on specific parts and utilize more exercises/angles etc. to really target muscles.
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2005/07/08, 03:27 PM
Great job on your weight loss! I have lost only 1 lb since I have started my workout with weights a month ago. This seems a little slow :-(
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2005/07/08, 04:57 PM
maybe you're losing fat and gaining muscle sivysivy.. maybe get a body fat % done, or measure your lean muscle mass and compare it across the next month
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2005/07/08, 05:28 PM
sivy def get bodyfat%..I have a feeling you have more lean muscle which is heavier than when u started....take the scale and toss it out of the window...
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2005/07/09, 03:23 PM
Thanks Guys-
Ill toss the scale!!!
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2005/07/09, 04:53 PM
sstump1, you said i should eventually cut out all cardio? What's the reason behind that? Isn't cardio important for heart health and keeping fat off?
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Quoting from sstump1:
This is exactly what I did. Full body circuits for about 2-3 months before switching to a Split. It was great for losing weight and building endurance, as well as getting muscles toned up and to get familiar with the equipment. But I'm seeing great progress with the split right now...even though I still got a few lbs to lose I'm gaining some muscle, but finding it hard to lose much more weight even though I'm still doing my cardio. May cut to a heavy cardio for a few weeks after my 8 week program is over in 3 weeks. Do straight full body and cardio for about 3-4 more weeks then move to a bulking phase and cutting out all cardio.
I get excited every time I change up my program cause I know to expect new things. Have fun with it and you can expect to see great results.
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2005/07/09, 05:03 PM
He says to cut out all cardio because when your in your bulking phase, your body needs all the calories it can get to repair the damaged muscle and grow. Doing Cardio will burn more calories that your muscles need to repair the muscle.
DX
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2005/07/09, 05:43 PM
I read somewhere that people having trouble building, ie hardgainers, usually have better success with trying full body workouts, because the greater frequency is better for them. I think it might have been in an article by either Christian Thibaudeau or Charles Poliquin. Think maybe Thibaudeau.
I've tried both, and am currently on a modified westside split, and will never go back, but its something to think about.
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The best feeling in the world is the feeling you get after a tough set of squats after you step back from the power rack and throw up all over the floor.
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2005/07/10, 06:00 PM
Menace3000 said split training is for "bodybuilders," "powerlifters" and "strongmen." I have no interest in being any of these.
I really don't want to be one of this huge muscle guys I see at the gym. I mean I certainly admire the dedication and hard work involved, but I'd much rather be lean and tone instead of bulging with muscles.
So, should I do full-body or split training? I guess I should've better stated my goals at the beginning of the thread. Sorry.
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2005/07/11, 09:46 AM
Thanks for covering DX...don't usually jump on during the weekends.
I'm currently doing a split just to build a bit of mass...but am also still doing cardio cause I still got a bit of a spare tire to lose. Not officially in a bulking phase yet. Got a tad bit more fat to burn off. I like the split training just for the shape it gives my body though. Lean mass is great for overall health...but a bit of bulk looks good as well. After I drop another 5-8 lbs I'm going to officially go to a bulking phase for 8 weeks then cut and maintain after that. Should have the desired shape at that time.
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