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2005/02/24, 01:21 AM
ok for a while now i been feeling like ive had no energy come to workout days.... ive tried eating more food and mroe carbos i thought i may ov been overtraining but wierd part is i just take ages to recover from my workouts like ages.. and ive been feeling so bloody tired this is pissing me off can someone help me get back on tract mayb im just feeling down about something subconciously ?? i uno help me someone with a certain exercise help me or food or doing something anything!! thnx
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2005/02/24, 01:50 AM
there are a few things that could be wrong...some worse than others....
you could be allergic to a certain food...
you may not be eating right foods before workouts...simple carbs are best...try 200mg of caffeine pill...or strong coffe/tea or red bull(it also helps slightly with endurance)
do you get enough of 'consistant' sleep? that means going to sleep at the same time each and every night and waking up at the same time each and every morning...while getting at least 8 hours a night...some people need 9-10...some may be able to get away with 7....
you may have an iron deficiency....
you may be suffering from condition that is affected by lack of sunlight(during winter time)....ie depressed/lack of energy
there are many other reasons for your current state so it's best to go have a full medical check up...including blood work....just suck it up and do it....if it's something serious...you may catch it early...if it's something small then u'll know how to fix it....
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2005/02/24, 02:56 AM
i usually have a green tea now b4 workout and n hour before that some sort of sandwhich i heard simple carbs where bad before a workout its like false energy ??? and if ur having simple carbs its best to have them right AFTER a workout??? i also usually go sleep around 10 prolly get sleep by 10:30pm and wake up about 6am so thats about 7 and a half hours a night some days i sleep in the daytime for n hour hour or hour i try to... i got a friend whogets away with 4 hours of sleep bloody bullshit also i did have iron deficency and i fixed that now and i do have low platlet count or pilet count or something if that means anything to u guys??? also at work i move all day so i aint cold or w/e sitting down .. i feel a lil depressed/lac of energy but arg its really tiring me down heaps i cant workout at all like i use to and ive only been working out for like 18 months now... arg im only 18... i should have heaps of energy:o also certain exercises like dips chinups and squats meant to build testoserone up right?? i dont feel it at all :s
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2005/02/24, 02:57 AM
somedays i got energy but most days i aint... =\
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2005/02/24, 03:00 AM
i feel like i just dun care no more about certain things as well maybe thats linked to my lack of energy?? like when people r talking to me i find it too much effort to just "talk" or even "smile" half time i nudge em off n just do wat i gotta... :O it cant be good... and what can a doctor do about that? tell me go to sleep more? do exercises? try to relax more? ive been trying arg so ye.. w/e plz help!!
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2005/02/24, 03:05 AM
sorry forgot to add... i feel like i get really bad "DOMS" now as well... eh even if i stop exercising for 2 weeks mybody still gets "DOMS" and i never use to get it "this bad" everything in lifes as far as physical is practically the same ( if i cut out the gym work ) soo i dno wot it is, the other day i was at the point after waking up i could barely move like i was telling my mind to move my body or w/e and i was like just felt paralized... ive had doms b4 heaps of times i know its doms but i just feel so exhausted... its ruining what i wanna do...
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2005/02/24, 04:34 AM
Sounds like me six months ago. Mine was my thyroid. my symtoms were exact same as yours one test came back ok the next test came back very low so it can be a bit up and down. Get it checked if you haven't already and if you have get it checked again to make sure.
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2005/02/24, 04:39 AM
what am i getting checked exactly?? my blood? ive had blood tests 3 times now... and everything else with me "seems fine" says the doctor... also what is Thyroid???
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2005/02/24, 04:43 AM
Taking high doses of cafine is faulse security. Cafine blocks adenosine resepters in the brain and tells you that your not tired when you actually are, this is ok to use if you need to stay awake for a long drive or to get some wok done but you will have to be prepaired to pay for it the next day. the come down off cafine can make you feel like you do.
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2005/02/24, 04:47 AM
ive only had 4 cups of green tea within the past 12-18 months of my life i dont have tea or coffee at all usually.... i dont even have soft drinks.... i understand that its false secruity energy tellling ur mind u have energy there but u really dont but what exactly could i possibly have is it actually something or is it just me...? going thru some stage? if so how do i break thru it???
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2005/02/24, 04:51 AM
an underactive thyroid is only detected if the tester has been instructed to look for this an iron deficiancy test would not pick this up. your thyroid is the main organ in your body situated in your throat that takes control of your metabalisem and energy needs. If I were you I would look it up on google and have a read. theres loads of support sites and information on it. if it is what you have don't worry it easy fixed although you will most likely have to take a pill on a daily basis. but it might not be that have a read and see what you think.
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2005/02/24, 04:53 AM
how would someone like yourself know to check something like an underactive thyroid i never heard of something like this before :O im looking up "underactive thyroid" in google as we speak thankyou heaps also for quick replies.
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2005/02/24, 04:57 AM
feeling like you do is not normal although some may think that it is. Its misserable to feel like that not just for you but for those around you aswell. there could be many things making you feel like this another culprit that springs to mind is the amount of carbs your eating and where they come from. You should go back to your doctor and tell him exactly how you feel. If he fobs you of go to another one. hope you feel better soon :)
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2005/02/24, 05:00 AM
I only know about it cos I've got it but I'm not a doctor You may not have it I'm just saying its possible.
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how would someone like yourself know to check something like an underactive thyroid i never heard of something like this before :O im looking up "underactive thyroid" in google as we speak thankyou heaps also for quick replies.
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2005/02/24, 05:01 AM
underactive thyroid mainly occurs with old people :O ive tried increasing my carbs its got to be something like this because my hormoones feel really low like i dont even feel horny no more n im 18... lol and apparently it takes a while for tissue to repair with this?? but i dont understand what could have caused this reading the site im at right now i dont see how i could have gotten this? also i do feel too lazy and depressed / no energy talking to people at work and i feel like there starting to get shits with me and family at home too :O if i was to go to a doctor what do i do just ask for a "Blood test" to check my underactive thyroid ??
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2005/02/24, 05:09 AM
yes tell him you want get it checked. it doesn't just happen to old people its mainly genetic I would defo get it checked after what you just said cos my sex drive was low before I got the pills. putting on weight is also a pointer but maybe not at your age.
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2005/02/24, 05:12 AM
i have put on a lil weight recently around my stomach but i aint gotten rough dry skin or dry hair yet :S??? my voice is deeper and softer and i feel like i cant remember some things now like its harder to consintrate these all signs??
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2005/02/24, 05:19 AM
All I can say is that you have the symptoms that I had I don't have dry skin either. loss of short term memmory is a deffenate symptom and poor concentration.
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2005/02/24, 05:23 AM
hmm i see, are there any tablets or something i can TAKE vitamins without a prescription to help me??? my dad keeps saying "u aint getting enuf iron in ur diet" stupid ass never helps me my low energy isnt low energy or "fainting" feeling more of a low energy of not caring/depressed feeling
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2005/02/24, 05:31 AM
HYPOTHYROIDISM (UNDERACTIVE THYROID) - a patient's guide
Drs John Carter and Catherine Cearns - Family Doctors
Overview
Hypothyroidism is a condition in which the amount of thyroid hormone in the body is below normal.
It affects approximately 2 persons in 100, and is more common in women and with increasing age.
Thyroid hormones are produced by the thyroid gland located in the lower part of the neck. They are chemical messengers that help regulate growth and the rate of chemical reactions (metabolism) in the body.
Treatment is simple and effective but is usually lifelong.
Causes
Most cases of hypothyroidism are due to inadequate production of thyroid hormone by the thyroid gland, referred to as primary hypothyroidism.
The main causes of primary hypothyroidism are:
Inflammation of the thyroid gland (thyroiditis)
The most common type of thyroiditis is called Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Antibodies are produced by the body which interrupt the normal function of the thyroid gland. It can run in families. Inflammation can also occur after pregnancy (postpartum thyroiditis), as a result of bacterial infection or after a viral illness.
A Birth Defect (Congenital)
One in 4000 babies are born with a non-functioning or absent thyroid gland resulting in hypothyroidism. It is very important to diagnose and treat this to prevent severe mental and growth retardation. All babies in New Zealand are tested at birth with a heel prick blood test.
Acquired
Hypothyroidism may occur as a result of surgical removal of the thyroid gland for treatment of thyroid cancer or an overactive thyroid gland. It may also occur as a result of some drugs such as radioactive iodine (used to treat an overactive thyroid gland), lithium (used to stabilize mood) and amiodarone (used to treat palpitations).
Severe Iodine deficiency
Iodine is needed to make thyroid hormone. In some countries (such as India and South America) the soil content of iodine is poor and hypothyroidism is more common. It is rare in the Western World since the addition of iodine to table salt.
Thyroid gland function is controlled by the pituitary gland, a small gland at the base of the brain. It produces a hormone called Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH) if the body's thyroid hormone levels are low. This TSH stimulates the thyroid gland to make more thyroid hormone. In rare cases hypothyroidism is a result of reduced TSH production by the pituitary gland, referred to as secondary hypothyroidism.
What are the symptoms?
Patients with mild hypothyroidism may have no symptoms. This is referred to as "subclinical hypothyroidism". Early symptoms may be nonspecific, and with a very slow onset, may be wrongly attributed to aging. Symptoms become evident with more severe hypothyroidism and are related to the slowed metabolism of the body.
Symptoms may include some of the following:
Fatigue
Weakness
Intolerance to cold
Constipation
Dry coarse skin (I did'nt get this)
Poor appetite
Poor memory
Croaky hoarse voice
Weight gain
Muscle cramps
Diagnosis
Your family doctor may suspect hypothyroidism on the above symptoms. A thorough clinical examination may also reveal an enlarged thyroid gland (goitre), thickening of the skin, slow reflexes and a slow heart rate.
The diagnosis is confirmed by blood tests. Levels of thyroid hormone are low in patients with hypothyroidism but may be normal in early or mild cases and only become low as the disease progresses. TSH levels are always elevated in primary hypothyroidism. In secondary hypothyroidism thyroid hormone levels and TSH levels are low.
Thyroid antibodies may also be found in the blood and are common in Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Other blood tests may reveal an elevated cholesterol and an anaemia associated with hypothyroidism. The disease may coexist with diabetes and pernicious anemia (low vitamin B12).
What is the treatment?
Treatment of hypothyroidism is simple and effective. Thyroid hormone replacement is taken in the form of a small pill (thyroxine or eltroxin). Doses usually range from 0.05mg-0.2mg daily. Gradually increasing doses are given until the thyroid hormone level and TSH levels are normal again. The levels are monitored by regular blood tests. Once the dose has been established most patients stay on the same dose for life, with checkups and blood tests by their doctor once or twice yearly.
Thyroxine tablets should be taken on awakening at least 30 minutes before eating. Some bran or fibre foods may reduce absorption. Iron tablets and antacids should not be taken at the same time as they will also reduce absorption.
Side effects are very rare and are usually a result of not enough or too many tablets. Too much thyroid replacement can result in symptoms or an overactive thyroid gland (heat intolerance, anxiety, sweatiness, palpitations). Not enough thyroid replacement can result in the symptoms of hypothyroidism persisting.
When the patient is elderly or has heart disease it is important to start with a low dose and increase the dose very gradually.
Most patients with hypothyroidism lead absolutely normal lives with effective treatment and suffer no long-term problems.
You can boost the tyroid with food if its only mild but we should not asume that you have this you need a proper diagnosis before you can talk about treatment.
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2005/02/24, 05:32 AM
gotta get some work done now.
Nice chatting to ya good luck.
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2005/02/24, 09:30 AM
Are you getting enough sleep?
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Lift. Eat. Rest. Gain.
~Brad~
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2005/02/24, 09:54 AM
I just wanted to add this in case others were reading on the thyroid information: many, many younger individuals I know suffer from this. I suffered from it and was found to have thyroid cancer and for two years the doctors said my thyroid was normal and showed as such through all blood work. It is imperative to insist upon thorough blood testing and more than once if your blood work comes through ok if you are still feeling tired. My sister also has this, she was found to have non-cancer tumors but went through many doctors before diagnosed correctly.
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underactive thyroid mainly occurs with old people :O ive tried increasing my carbs its got to be something like this because my hormoones feel really low like i dont even feel horny no more n im 18... lol and apparently it takes a while for tissue to repair with this?? but i dont understand what could have caused this reading the site im at right now i dont see how i could have gotten this? also i do feel too lazy and depressed / no energy talking to people at work and i feel like there starting to get shits with me and family at home too :O if i was to go to a doctor what do i do just ask for a "Blood test" to check my underactive thyroid ??
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MISERY IS OPTIONAL
***When you are up to your ears in trouble, try using the part that is not submerged.
***The difference between a dream and a goal is a plan.
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
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2005/02/25, 12:01 AM
arg i got shitty parents they just keep thinking "ONE" test is enough and what results are is that and final i was reading upsome fotty player in newspaper had it today can it really be that "serious" of a cancer??? i got all the symstoms mentioned above except for dry coarse skin but every1 around me rekons it aint this and i feel kinda wierd going to a doctor saying i feel really sad n no energy cuz then if it is nothing it sounds like im suffering from "depression" which is bs even though i feel it a lil that way i know it cant be this eh:O im definently getting enuf sleep i sleep about 8 hours a night recently ive found though i have beeen "waking up" earlier and yes also not long ago i had breathing problems where i found it hard to breathe i couldnt take deep breathes not sharp pain but my heart and lung just didnt feel right could that have anything to do with this or something else as well???
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2005/02/25, 05:34 AM
Don't start paniking about somthing else, Having a low thyroid isn't in it's self serious if you get treatment. Cancer of the thyroid is a different condition no body is sugesting that this is the case with you. Dont waist your time worrying about somthing that yiu don't even know you'v got. You are old enough to take yourself to the doctors and get it checked for your self. Your linking other symptoms to it now and getting a little carried away, I know health is a scary thing at your age. You may simply be suffering from depression that is quite common amongst teenagers these days, but if you dont go to the docs you wont find out what you'v got and the symptoms are just going to escilate. Make an apointment now and get it dealt with. All the best.
Iron
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2005/02/25, 06:01 AM
first off as suggested by ironmonga...go have your thyroid checked...and done so by a specialist....many family doctors are inexperienced in specific areas...also if you cna do several tests then do so...what one test misses..another test may find....
7 hours seems too little...which is evident by you wanting to nap during the day...eliminate the naps...focus on getting your recuperative sleep at night....also you may benefit from taking Melotonin 1-3grams a night, 30 min before bedtime...it makes me sleepier...and I wake up more refreshed with less sleep...with no drowsy or weird feelings when I wake up...
also as ironmonga suggested caffeine is false security..this is why I sometimes sleep 16 hours on my days off...heh...however it's an effective supplement for energy throughout the day and before a workout...just make sure you don't use it 5-6 hours before sleep time...and u don't use it to 'make up' for lack of sleep....gl
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2005/02/25, 06:03 AM
also forgot to add...the longer you take between workouts...the more severe your DOMS is...so once you don't exercise small body parts over a week or big body parts for 2-3 weeks...you may experience severe DOMS
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2005/02/25, 12:37 PM
No, No, No, please don't get worried about something that is a rare occurance, that was not my intention, my intention was to say that sometimes it takes a few tests when it comes to the thyroid. You are a teenager and it can be as simple as not getting enough iron, sometimes just worrying about things can make us feel even worse, so set your mind to thinking positive and just tell your parents you are still dragging, they have got to understand, but don't focus on worrying, focus on eating right, sleeping right. Teens often suffer from near exhaustion with the schedules they keep, take it easy, de-stress and do not compare yourself to what others are doing or feeling.
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Veda
MISERY IS OPTIONAL
***When you are up to your ears in trouble, try using the part that is not submerged.
***The difference between a dream and a goal is a plan.
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
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2005/02/25, 01:38 PM
when I feel like that........this.....I take a week off.....no nothing .....maybe a few days of light jogging. After that week, my fire is "relit" an di'm ready to go balls to the walls again.
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My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
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2005/02/25, 06:46 PM
went to doctor this mourning tests should come back 5 or so days from now he found it hard to find blood from my veins.. wierd lol yeah im trying to think posititive and i do get atleast 8 hours a sleep a night, i aint afraid if i got something shit happens.. so im just gonna continue life as i am and hopefully shrug it off :)
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2005/02/25, 06:47 PM
btw, thankyou everyone for help and support :D
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2005/03/10, 02:47 AM
Haha i had Glandular Fever and i didnt even know!! wtf? im still just recovering as we speak now.. is there ways of speeding this recovery up? also i read that after glandular theres a stage of depression after it???
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2005/03/10, 02:43 PM
Well, there you go! I am glad that you went back for more tests! Good luck to you with a speedy recovery! Drink lots of fluids and get your rest! I have heard that this is a sneaky illness where you often don't know you have it other than you feel sluggish and just plain yuck! Happy to know you went back and are on your way to wellness!
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Veda
MISERY IS OPTIONAL
***When you are up to your ears in trouble, try using the part that is not submerged.
***The difference between a dream and a goal is a plan.
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
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2005/03/10, 05:11 PM
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also forgot to add...the longer you take between workouts...the more severe your DOMS is...so once you don't exercise small body parts over a week or big body parts for 2-3 weeks...you may experience severe DOMS
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why is that? I know I've heard that before, and even experianced it, but it doesn't make sense to me. You wouldn't happen to know the reasoning behind that?
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2005/03/11, 01:53 AM
cuz ur pumping blood in there whilest working out and plus your training your muscles to take that certain exercise instead of training it to do it then dump it then pick it back up again once it has thrown it out and forgotten it thus getting sore again? i dno just takin a stump.. lol
anyway thankyou veda yes this is a very sneaky thing my auntie had it without knowing as well lol anyway it apparaently takes months to recover from completly and it also has a depression stage after it?? only ways of speeding this recovery is water fluids and rest? cuz i try doing this heaps... i just wanna get bak into GOOD SOLID workouts :)
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2005/03/11, 05:59 AM
Glad your ok tim. You would have thought the doc would have picked it up on all those blood tests but it just goes to show that they only find somthing if there looking for it. btw a lot of people believe that the best thing for depression is a good work out.
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2005/03/11, 09:40 AM
thank you timmstar. I've always done recovery workouts with weights 50% or less just to get the blood pumping, but never really thought heavy weights would help recovery the same way. thanks for the reply
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2005/03/13, 01:09 AM
hi bro and girls ;)
hehehe
anyways he is right may be its deficiency but i have faced it too and i think 2 more factors you people are ignoring. first thing may be he needs some multi vitamins or may be like i am living in karachi and its already hot here and cuz of that i lose energy too while exercising. i dont know if am right or not kindly correct me
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2005/03/13, 02:50 AM
i live in australia... and yes where hot alot of time but our bodies adapt to that of our surroundings :)
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2005/03/13, 11:58 PM
Glad you found out what you have.
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