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he_the_mystery
he_the_mystery
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2005/02/02, 06:16 PM
Hi everyone

I hope you all doing well. I have decided a diet on my own and I need help if I am doing the right thing or not. I need suggestions from you. Kindly read the whole thing and please advice.

I worked out for about 3 years continously and then stoped. AFter about 5 years I have started workingout from 3rd of January. As I was in shape just got extra fats on me it wasnt hard for me to get into shape. My chest and shoulders are back in shape if i am wearing cloths and upper body is toned. Now the problem is my abs I have lots of fats there and on the side of my chest to the wings. For reducing fats fast I have started taking only vegetable. Raw vegetable including cabbage cauliflower peas carrot shimla chilli with little salt and lemon in it for taste. Right now all I am taking is 3 to 4 time vegetable for last 4 days. Today i went to workout and felt weak so i took body charger one glass only along with multi vitamin pill. I felt better but the thing is that do i have to take something more to keep my energy???

As I have psoriasis I cant take eggs, coffee and sea food at all. for last 13 years I am not taking them and not even the products in which they are used. Like I dont eat cakes as eggs are used to bake them.

Now the other problem is I have stress on my shoulders. When ever i do inclined benchpress i get burning senses on the shoulder joint muscles. I quit decline benchpress and pull over cuz of that sense but i dont wanna quit inclined at this time. Is it cuz of less power?? do i have to take multi vitamins regularly??

I hope my point is clear.

Kindly advice me plz I will be really gratefull

Thanks
Anni313
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2005/02/02, 06:54 PM
Please fill out your profile. Without your profile we cannot help you.

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he_the_mystery
he_the_mystery
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2005/02/02, 08:16 PM
Dear anni

I have already filledup my profile. Anyways am mentioning here again. I am 6'2" male weight 100 KG. i dont thing there is anything else needed. well my stats are 48-42-46.
howdiekat
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2005/02/02, 08:34 PM
you have not filled out your profile or else it would say "view profile" where it says "no profile." filling out your profile is not the same as registering for the site. also, no need to double post.

in response to your question, you have got to add protein. chicken, buffalo, beef, and cottage cheese are all excellent sources that are not on your list of forbidden foods. you feel weak because you're not eating enough. vegetables 3-4 times a day is hardly enough to adequately sustain a 100kg male. increase your caloric intake so your body doesn't think it's starving and respond accordingly.

as for the burning, you'll need to elaborate. generally burning is a good thing.



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he_the_mystery
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2005/02/02, 08:37 PM
oh yes about my workout routine:

I do workout 6 days a week.

day 1 : chest and arms:
straight bench press 6 sets 10 rep each
inclined benchpress 3 sets 10 rep each
flies straight bench 3 sets 10 rep each
flies standing 3 sets 10 rep each.

biceps barbel rod 3 sets 10 rep each
biceps dumbells 3 sets 10 rep each
biceps curling machine while standing 3 sets 10
rep each
biceps machine while resting my arms on the bench
3 sets 10 rep each

triceps barbell with both hands while stitting
3 sets 10 rep each
triceps barbell rod 3 sets 10 rep each
triceps dumbells 3 sets 10 rep each while elbow is
up
triceps dumbells 3 sets 10 rep each while keeping
my elbow at back
triceps machine up and down 3 sets 10 rep each
triceps machine to and fro 3 sets 10 rep each

then forearms

Day 2 :

shoulders and wings:

straight shoulder rod from back of head broad grip 3 sets 10 rep each

straight shoulder rod from front of head broad grip 3 sets 10 rep each

straight shoulder rod from front hands holding exactly in front of shoulder joint 3 sets 10 rep each

shoulder side dumbles 3 sets 10 rep each

shoulder front dumbles 3 sets 10 rep each

collar rod 3 sets 10 rep each


wings chain pull behind head 3 sets 10 rep each

wings chain pull front head 3 sets 10 rep each

chain pull 3 sets 10 rep each

forearms

every alternate days i workout like this 6 days a week



howdiekat
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2005/02/02, 08:39 PM
where is your leg work and your cardio?

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if you get me started on quentin tarantino films, chances are you won't be able to shut me up.

excuses are really good for making you fat.

margarine is a liar who announces, "i am butter!"
he_the_mystery
he_the_mystery
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2005/02/02, 08:41 PM
thanks howdiekat

the thing is that i dont wanna take any fatty food at all so there is no point of going for cheese or meat or beef. i dont know about the protein i can take other than the things am not allowed to eat.

Kindly tell me how to fill my profile on this site its too confusing for me

by the way nice abs i had same but lost them and wish to have them again.
howdiekat
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2005/02/02, 08:51 PM
first of all, you need fats. they are essential to your body's ability to function. even so, you can buy fat free cottage cheese, buffalo is low in fat and cholesterol, skinless chicken breasts are virtually fat free, and you can buy extra lean ground beef or lean steaks. i eat all of these things in the right proportions and when i'm cutting i have no problem losing weight. protein supplements will help you reach your intake goal and are ideal for post-workout, but can't completely replace whole foods.

to fill out your profile go to the showcase gallery and click "your showcase profile." here you can fill out your goals and basic stats like height and weight and gender.

and thank you for the compliment on my abs. i am confident that you will be able to have yours again if you stick with a good workout and eating program. it's all about focus :)

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if you get me started on quentin tarantino films, chances are you won't be able to shut me up.

excuses are really good for making you fat.

margarine is a liar who announces, "i am butter!"
bigandrew
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2005/02/02, 08:51 PM
your chest and arm day is too long.......do just tris ceps or just biceps.......shoulders and back/wings is cool except you ned some row movements, to thicken the back...........where your leg workout?....6days a week is too much to weight train.

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2005/02/02, 08:52 PM
my head hurts from you workout...lol...it is WAY too long and WAY too many sets....

you say you workout 6 days a week but all I see is 2 days...

Also as kat already noted, you have nothing for legs, and are missing key exercises for back like deadlifts...also your exercises are redundant....you're OVERTRAINING....

what are your goals? keep your training to no more than 2-3 exercises per body part, of 2-4 working sets....I suggest lower end for small body parts(arms, shoulders) and higher end for large body parts(back, legs)....1-5 reps for working sets if your goal is strength/power or 4-8 reps if your goal is muscle mass....10+ can be used in the beginning of workout to warm up with light weight or to learn form of a new exercise....

You can also add soy, tofu, beans, lentils, nuts, brown rice,etc for protein...in addition to what kat already mentioned...

Pain you feel during incline bench can have many sources....lack of flexibility, rotator cuff tear, lack of recovery time, muscle tear, improper form, etc....I'd go see a doc to rule out the worst possibilities...

Also you should thoroughly warm up your shoulders/chest and increase weight steadily....
2005/02/02, 08:54 PM
also pulldowns to the back is an archaic method of doing the exercise...it should be done to the front....if you do it to the back you're putting your shoulde rin an awkward position and are risking injury...
he_the_mystery
he_the_mystery
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2005/02/02, 09:27 PM
Thanks all

for the reply. well am not doing legs exercises right now will start after 2 months. right now all on upper body only. about cardio i really dont know what cardio exercises are and how to do them. ok dont laugh at me am from paksitan all we do is by asking the older members of gym no trainers are there.

i was used to do same when i left workout last time.

howdiekat am not gonna take fats at any condition till i get my waist to 32 atleast. thank god fats reducing really fast and i gained 1 inch on my arms in this 1 month. cheese also has fats so no cheese

well i want a perfect beautifull body like i had b4 in 3 months. the best thing is my partner who is skinny and was workingout for last 5 months and had no changes at his body at all is totaly changed too during this month. lol he is working hard too.

now again i dont want fats at all in food. after looking at you people msgs what am thinking is to add boil chicken chicken soup the one which looks like juice not the chinese one to my daily diet and keep it till i lose my fats.

yep i forget to mention before starting shoulder exercise i do one more by holding 2 rods each side of my waist stick to wall and move my body up and down on my arms only.
and after 2 weeks am going to add t bar and barbell for wings too.

Kindly tell me what you think about it
bigandrew
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2005/02/02, 09:37 PM
what reason do you not wanna train your legs>?

if your gonna do it do it right...

workouts are too long....your going to overtrain......and not gain anything......after a month or so.


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2005/02/02, 09:43 PM
you're wrong about good fats...take cottage chesse before sleep it has 'cassein' type protein which is slow digesting and is good to prevent muscle break down during sleep...it also has a lot fo calcium and other nutrients...which you need....

Nuts, virgin olive oil also provide essential body fats that your body needs....as you do with eating salmon/fish...these fats are good for you...instead cut out simple carbs, like pasta, white bread, potatoes, rice.....replace them with yams, sweet potatoes, brown rice, lentils, etc...

Please look up programs provided on freetrainers....you need to train ALL bodyparts to prevent imbalances....also by training legs...ie doing SQUATS you naturally produce highest amounts of testosterone which in turn helps you get stronger in other lifts (like for upper body) and gain lean muscle......there are also sample lifting programs in powerlifting thread which you might wanna to search for...
howdiekat
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2005/02/02, 09:44 PM
i don't know how to tell you this and have it make sense, but you absolutely cannot eliminate all fat from your diet. it will do you much more harm than good. not all fat is bad — in fact, some fats are essential. fat, just like protein and carbohydrates, is a macronutrient. your body needs it for fuel, not to mention certain functions in the nervous system. eating fats in the correct amounts will not hinder your weight loss at all. however, depriving yourself of a neccessary energy source will keep you from reaching your goal. even so, i did suggest to you "fat free" cottage cheese. they make this, i promise.

oh, and cardio means things like running, biking, swimming; anything that gets your heart rate up for an extended period of time.

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if you get me started on quentin tarantino films, chances are you won't be able to shut me up.

excuses are really good for making you fat.

margarine is a liar who announces, "i am butter!"
he_the_mystery
he_the_mystery
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Joined: 2005/01/21
Pakistan
2005/02/02, 10:07 PM
i am not doing legs cuz first of all i wanna give all my time right now to fix my upper body first and after 2 months once my upper body will be good shape i will start thighs too. thighs dont take time to get well.

well nowadays i am not doing any cardio exercises at all b4 i was a good swimmer. since for last 7 years i am not swimming at all cuz of my skin prob. its not that my body look ugly its just i feel shy going in.

ok howdiekal if you saying just cuz of you am gonna eat cheese too. is it ok now??
bigandrew
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2005/02/02, 11:23 PM
you don't just need to "fix" your upper body... you need to fix it all.

Why fix up a nice car...........like a charger( its a muscle car) put a new paint job on it, window tint, falms on side, new engine.........then put bicycle tires on it?

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he_the_mystery
he_the_mystery
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2005/02/04, 04:44 AM
Thanks bigandrew

Thanks for your advice. bro i have big thighs right now as i have started again the main thing is my tummy fats and fats around my chest. i do understand the need of shaping body all over. as thighs are good enough right now so i am concentrating on the fats reduction for which i am succeded till now. losing fats fast right now wiht my diet control and more exercises. once my tummy will be in acceptable shape i will go for the thighs too. my shoulder shape is back chest shape is back. now the main thing this month i have to concentrate is tummy fats. as chest helps in reducing fats from tummy too and for which i need stronger shoulders i got it now. now on i will increase weight in pull overs. as soon as tummy will be in reasonable shape i will go for thighs

thanks once again
asimmer
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2005/02/04, 12:13 PM
It doesn't happen one part at a time. Leg training will facilitate fat burning because it uses so much muscle and energy.

I guess I am probably wasting my time, because it seems you argue with whatever anyone suggests.

Do whatever you want, when it doesn't work, come back and take advice.

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bigandrew
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2005/02/04, 04:04 PM
legs incorporate the most muscles of any training body part......they release the most hormones....and get the heart rate going the best.

Like aswimer said, your gonna make a sissy excuse for everything no matter what we say.......so go knock your self out........and in a month your gonn abe back wondering why you upper body not growing or getting smaller.

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he_the_mystery
he_the_mystery
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2005/02/12, 03:52 AM
thanks asimmer and bigandrew

sorry asimmer if you felt that am arguing with everyone. i was jsut telling how i was trying to go on. anyways i have started legs too. and i am happy that with all my workout and with my deit for 8 days only of diet and 1 month of workout i lost 5 inches of my waist. my chest is well pulledup my colar bone is no more visible. my shoulders are well in shape. arms are toned and i gained about 1 and half inches on my arms. now the only thing is left is my lower abdomen as i got my power back i will start my diting from next week again and i will add boil pulses to it so i wont lose power will just lose fats. Next week am gonna write down my stats in forum b4 starting my diet and will keep on updating it weekly so if it will work it will help others and me aswell cuz knowing it that am gaining keeps us motivate.

thanks asimmer once again for telling me that i was really arguing instead of understanding it.