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rev8ball
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2007/10/24, 11:59 AM
Experts Sound Off on Workout Grunting By E.J. Mundell
HealthDay Reporter


WEDNESDAY, Oct. 24 (HealthDay News) -- Jane Ross, a 42-year-old Boston area gym buff, is honest about it: When exercising, she sometimes grunts.


"I think it's part of going to a gym -- I grunt during a workout, and I think that most people do," said the mom and former personal trainer. "When you are exerting yourself, it's a release."


But not everyone is so accepting of those loud fitness club exhalations.


Late last year, Albert Argibay, a Wappinger Falls, N.Y., bodybuilder and state correction officer, was escorted by police out of the Planet Fitness gym he was a member of, after another member complained to management of his loud grunting during weightlifting.


Planet Fitness, a national chain, has a solid "no-grunting" policy in place and Argibay's noisemaking -- along with a resulting verbal tussle with management -- cost him his membership, The New York Times reported.


The story spawned headlines and much debate, with the grunt-prone lined up on one side and annoyed non-grunters on the other. The former say grunting boosts their workouts, while the latter claim it's just so much hot air.


Each side has its advocates.


Dennis O'Connell is a certified strength and conditioning specialist and professor and chairman of physical therapy at Hardin-Simmons University in Abilene, Texas. He has led two studies assessing grunting's ability to maximize exercise output.


During the research, O'Connell had a variety of people lift a heavy dead weight and pull that weight upward until they straightened their bodies into an upright position. Participants were told to either grunt or stay quiet during the lift.


"Very experienced lifters that normally grunted when they lifted did have about a 1 percent improvement with grunting," O'Connell said.


That pattern was repeated with the other lifters who grunted, he added. "A group of college football players -- they, of course, also lifted weights fairly regularly -- showed a 2 percent improvement. And the untrained group -- graduate students in physical therapy -- had about a 5 percent increase," he said.


When these improvements were spread across the total group, they did not reach statistical significance, O'Connell noted, so there's no firm conclusion that grunting will always boost a gym-goer's performance.


"But, for some people, there was actually a small percentage increase when they grunted, in terms of the force produced," O'Connell said. For that reason, "I wouldn't be trying to tell people not to grunt," he said.


Just how these loud vocalizations might improve force output remains unclear. O'Connell said studies done elsewhere have suggested one theory -- that grunting quiets inhibitory nerves cells in the spinal cord. Those cells would normally impede the ability of muscles to contract and generate force, he said.


But other experts aren't sure any of that holds water.


"As far as anything going on physiologically , I'm not aware of any data or studies that have revealed that," said Larry Birnbaum, an exercise physiologist based in Duluth, Minn.


"The only thing I can think of is that it's a psychological thing," he said. "But psychology is very important in sports in general -- if you think you can, it raises the possibility that you can."


Belisa Vranich, a sports psychologist for Gold's Gym Fitness in New York City, believes that for the average workout fan, grunting is probably unnecessary.

"Some people grunt to give others the impression that are doing a lot of work. It's just like flexing and strutting, trying to attract attention," she told the Orange County Register. "The other reason is a more physical one -- they're not breathing properly. In order to grunt, they have to hold their breath and exhale forcefully."

O'Connell said there might be a means of ending fitness-club feuds linked to grunting.

"I think that might look at deep breathing in and out without necessarily the vocalization," he said. Instead of that loud burst of sound, "they may try and practice giving a little less 'auditory stimulation' for the rest of us," O'Connell advised.

But Ross believes people should lighten up and accept the occasional grunt as part of the gym experience.

"I'm kind of in my own world when I'm at the gym, and I think most people are like that," she said. "So, between songs or if your iPod breaks, you're sometimes aware that people are grunting. And that's just the deal."



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ReptilianFeline
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2007/10/24, 04:09 PM
Interesting. A gym banning grunts... odd.
In martial arts you are supposed to make sounds in certain movements. That is to make the move better, I think, more forceful and focused.

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wrestler125
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2007/10/24, 04:23 PM
The way I look at it is if people are using chains and dropping weights, and the music is as loud as it should be, then I shouldn't hear grunting.

But that's just me.
immovablestone
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2007/10/24, 04:30 PM
Thus the difference between "wellness centers" and "health clubs" and proverbial "gyms". Someone who's really training should stay away from places like planet fitness as not to scare the normals, and a softy that only wants to trot on the treadmill for 20 minutes wearing a purple sweat band around his head while watching desperate housewives on a suspended flat-screen should go nowhere near a real gym... The two will never meet eachother half way.

I'm attempting to slowly accumulate enough gear so I don't even have to go into a gym anymore, for just these sorts of reasons...

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2007/10/26, 01:12 PM
When I'm at the gym, I've got my headphones on to tune out everyone and everything else. I don't care if other people are grunting--I can't hear them. That said, I was a Planet Fitness member for two years and they also have a ban on banging/dropping weights. It's supposed to be a exercise-novice friendly chain of gyms. They're up front about their policies, so I'd have to side with them on the issue. He knew the rules when he got the membership.

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qualitymuscle
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2007/10/28, 10:42 AM
I think I grunt but like wasakat I have headphones on so my intent if I do is a necessary grunt and not to show off:)