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Help with building body for boxing...

tenor Posts: 60 Joined: 2003/08/19	2007/08/10, 06:22 PM I'm in a pich here. I'm training for MMA and boxing, not pro, just as a beginner getting into it. My trainer is great for the principles of fighting, but he seems rather ignorant about diet. My problem is that I'm about 220, with a thin frame and some belly fat to shed. I am being instructed to gain strength and lean muscle, and shed excess fat because all that does is put me into higher weight classes without it being useful weight. My prob is, by most accounts on this board, simultaneous fat loss and muscle gain isn't possible. But that's what I need to do, so is there some sort of approach or supplement I can take to accomplish so?
ecle5c Posts: 1,312 Joined: 2003/07/10	2007/08/11, 12:47 PM Quick anser, no. First and foremost get your diet in check. I guarantee if you put in a fraction of the time to your diet that you do training you will have great results.
tenor Posts: 60 Joined: 2003/08/19	2007/08/11, 09:44 PM I think my diet is pretty good. The problem is should I eat to gain or lose. The problem is I need to do both. I have heard you can make lean muscle gains while cutting. Is that true?.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/08/11, 10:15 PM This is a sports periodization question, not a diet question then... I believe you can get stronger while cutting if done properly, but gaining muscle while losing is very difficult, and I don't think you'd be able to juggle the training necessary with MMA training. I know when I was trianing for a fight, I could barely walk on a treadmill. The way I look at it, is you're at 220. If you're in the IFL, next weight class down is 205. I don't know boxing weight classes. If you're close to a fight (8 weeks or less out) then I'd avoid cutting, as you can't afford to be cutting during prefight training. If you're further out, then I'd cut down. I think it's a simple matter of time and weight classes. -------------- SQUAT MORE ~Jesse Marunde Mortal by birth. Strongman by the grace of god. Blood Guts Sweat Chalk
froshman Posts: 441 Joined: 2003/07/12	2007/08/12, 02:09 PM Hey, Wrestler. What do you mean when you write that you wren't able to walk on a treadmill? How was your training focused? Also, I have more than 8 weeks to train, but I don't seem to be cutting very quickly. I guess I should increase my cardio, but I worry about too much cardio.
tenor Posts: 60 Joined: 2003/08/19	2007/08/12, 10:46 PM Are you training MMA or boxing?
bicep Posts: 315 Joined: 2001/01/26	2007/08/13, 12:18 PM rosstraining.com http://www.rossboxing.com/ good sources of boxing oriented workouts
	2007/08/15, 12:37 AM http://www.sherdog.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=13 Srength and Power ^ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=30&f=15 Diet^ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=30&f=14 Conditioning for MMA^ as a beginner it sounds like you're just starting out with technique/skills training and weight classes are not so much of an issue. You definitely want to 'clean up' your diet but I think keeping calories stable for now is more important. Also you want to focus on heavy compound freeweight lifting to help you gain strength/muscle and shed bodyweight.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/08/15, 01:38 PM What I mean was I was doing BJJ twice a week, boxing twice a week, and doing Muay Thai 3 times a week, in addition to practicing with the wrestling team. I couldn't even think about doing anything more. Like I said, it's a matter of where you are in relation to weight classes, and how much time you have. -------------- SQUAT MORE ~Jesse Marunde Mortal by birth. Strongman by the grace of god. Blood Guts Sweat Chalk