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2007/03/18, 11:22 PM
Is there any way to have a successful fat burning diet without eliminating carbs? Everytime I diet I do low carb, and it sucks because its hard to do... not because of a lack of will, but because its hard to get something on the go (I work long days) that is carb free. I have to cut fruit and bread etc. I typically have a bowl of oatmeal and a fruit shake in the morning with frozen berries, vanilla protein, green tea and an OJ base. I like it, it energizes me, but my breakfast is LOADED with carbs, albeit healthy ones. Do I need to cut it?
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2007/03/18, 11:28 PM
it shouldnt be to hard I have sucessfully lowered my carbs to about 100-150 a day, Avoid bread and such, nobody said carbs were bad just not overuse...elimate sugar filled stuff remember meats have no carbs and veggies are good carbs
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2007/03/20, 02:26 PM
froshman - you don't have to go extremely low to lose fat.
Check out the post WSSC Food plan - it describes the diet I, and the challengers, have been using. I have lost fat and actually added a little mass, while not being hungry or missing out on my carbs - I eat sweet potatoes, oatmeal, rice, veggies (unlimited firbous veggies).
So, I think the answer is you can eat healthy carbs and lose fat!
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Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak.
Thomas Carlyle
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2007/03/20, 10:42 PM
The simple answer is no.
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"If it ain't broke, you aren't trying."
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2007/03/21, 12:40 AM
Isn't it all about calories in the end anyway? Granted, meat calories will permit more weight loss than twinkies, but in the end, doesn't it come down to intake vs. expenditure?
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2007/03/21, 10:30 AM
That can be misleading because you could eat the same calories in total crap food and not lose weight than if you ate the calories in healthy food, I don't believe the calpories in /calories out. It is also extremely difficult to really determine th correct baseline calories for a person because everyone's metabolism is doing different things according to how well their hormonal system is functioning, so you can't take person A at 150, give them 1500 calories of whatever they want and expect them to respond the same way as person B, 150 lbs. One may be insulin resistant, one may have thyroid issues, one may be very muscular, one may be skinny-fat, so many things come into play ion how your body responds to foods, to say that it is calories in Vs calories out would mean that all those very obese people who really don't eat very much should be very thin, they should, theoretically be expending a lot of calories just to exits, so if they aren't consuming a lot of calories, why aren't they losing weight? their hormones are skewed by the high amount of bodyfat they are carrying and they need a very specific diet to rebalance their system and reduce their insulin resistance.
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Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak.
Thomas Carlyle
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2007/03/21, 01:09 PM
" A Calorie is not a Calorie" - from The Schwarzbein Principle by Diana Schwarzbein, MD
In order to understand how you can gain bodyfat on a low-fat, high carbohydrate diet, you must understand what a calorie really is.
Energy from food is called calories. One calorie is actually defined as the amount of energy required to raise one gram of water one degree celsius. To measure the amount of heat loss of different foods, scientists break the fod chemical bonds completely, underwater, and then measure the change in the temperature of the water from the heat generated from these chemical reactions....Scientists have measured the calories in proteins, fats and carbohydrates and have detrmined that both protein and carbs have 4 calories per gram and fat has 9 calories per gram. This is where all the confusion began. Because the claorie measurements took place in a test tube where no other factor came into play, scientists wrongly concluded that fat is twice as fattening as proteins and carbs. But this is not true.
To your body, a hundred-calorie snack does not necessarily contain a hundred calories' worth of available energy. the hundred calories reflect only the amount of possible energy that could be utilized by your body, depending on what kind of food the snack is. If the snack is composed of carbs, your body has to use the hundred calories for immediate energy or store that energy as fat. But if the snack is made up of protein and fats, your body can use these foods first for building materials (cells, enzymes, hormones, and so on), leaving fewer calories to be used as energy or stored as fat.
...Because proteins and fats are not broken down into ebergy and are used instead as building materials, little or none of the proteins and fats goes to fat storage.
Carbs, however, are not used as builidng materials but instead provide energy that is then used to drive chemical reactions. If the energy derived from carbohydrates is not needed at the moment, carbs are stored as energy, either in ready-energy form as glycogen or in a long-term form as bodyfat.
These days many experts agree that a calorie restricted diet is an obsolete approach to bodyfat loss. ..."
I really recommend giving the book a read, it explains a lot in easy terms...
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Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak.
Thomas Carlyle
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