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High Heart Rate

parko03
parko03
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2004/03/12, 04:07 PM
Hey all, I looked in fit buddy first and got some help but need more...

My husband pointed out to me yesterday as we were leaving the gym how high my heart rate was when I was jogging.(as he jokes Im going to have a heart attack, not funny I think) Of course now Im concerned.

OK Supposedly my max heart rate should be about 190. But I knew already, and since he pointed it out that, that is exactly where my heart rate usually is when Im jogging. Mind you I am jogging as I can't truly 'run' yet. Even when I wasn't pushing myself my rate is around 180. I have noticed the 80 year old man next to me running at 7 mph and his heart rate is only like 140. Now Im worried.

What does it mean if I am always high. I have 'low' blood pressure(as in below normal)so that cannot be the issue. My normal resting rate is around 75. And after all the reading from fitbuddy, apparantly I shouldn't be working in this zone for a long time. But how do I lower it without slowing down. I don't understand what this means. I do not watch it constantly but I also do not want to hurt myself. And I have noticed that I usually do slow down when I can't breathe right any more and my heart is racing, so I do. Remember I am a beginner here, but I've been doing this for almost 5 months now and have made decent progress I think.

But now Im worried about my heart. So now what?? Should I be careful, and if so , how or should I just keep pushing?

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mmaibohm
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2004/03/12, 04:18 PM
Take it easy dont push to hard. I am coming down from a little cardiac scare. Working out at 190 is a little high I would say. 165-180 is usually a good range. As your fitness level increases your heart rate will come down while you excersise. The heart like any other muscle needs strengthening to work with maximum effciency. But ultimatley if you are concerned consult your doc!! Train hard - Mike

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parko03
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2004/03/12, 04:34 PM
I wasn't concerned until my DH pointed it out. But again, I have no idea what Im doing. So should I watch it and stay in a lower range for a long period of time instead of pushing myself until I can't no more? Will staying in the low range help me build up my stamina? I can't run for too long as it is now, so I don't want to go backwards. Ive been concentrating on getting a lower mile and half time. Should I just concentrate on how long I can go? YOu know it's amazing, I go to a gym everyday, yet no one will assist or chit-chat for that matter about how they do stuff or make suggestions for me. I would probably not be bothering you guys so much if someone would. But I know you guys always help. THanks.

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konary
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2004/03/12, 08:09 PM
Instead of focusing on how fast you run, try to keep your heart rate at a certain number. As your body becomes efficient and fit, you will notice you will gradually have to run faster to keep up that heart rate. How long can you run at 180 heart rate? If you can keep that up for your mile and a half, I would say you are okay. But If you have to stop a few times at that heart rate, aim lower. Try to run/jog for 30 min without stopping. :love:
parko03
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2004/03/12, 08:17 PM
My max jogging without slowing till now is about 15 minutes. I slow for about a minute then pick it up again. But My heart rate is this high during the entire jog. I usually jog for about 40 minutes a day on the treadmill. So I take it I need to slow down and watch my heart rate then?
mmaibohm
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2004/03/12, 08:31 PM
I would say that sounds like a plan. Take it slow there is no need to push yourself to hard. Runners get where they are over time not by pushing the envelope. Good Luck - Mike

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konary
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2004/03/12, 08:32 PM
If you can go 40 min without stopping. I would say keep what you are doing unless you are a smoker or has family history of heart problems. Your heart rate will slow down eventually as your body gets used to it. Try to avoid caffeine before your jogging.:)
parko03
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2004/03/12, 09:00 PM
I am a smoker.
2004/03/12, 09:02 PM
My heart rate dropped 20 to 25 bpm when I quit.

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Charlie
2004/03/12, 09:03 PM
Sorry resting rate went from 78 to 58 bpm. Took less than a month. Think thats your answer.

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agamble
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2004/03/12, 09:40 PM
Bingo
konary
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2004/03/12, 10:23 PM
Try to cut down on your smoking specially for a few hours around your exercise if you can't just quit. And you will have to quit if you are really serious about your running.

Having said that I am not the one to talk about quitting as i can't quit smoking myself. But one of these days... argh!
parko03
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2004/03/13, 06:29 AM
I do not smoke usually about 3 or 4 hours before I go to the gym. I've found I do better, Duh!

I guess I'll just start paying a little more attention to my heartrate.:)

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asimmer
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2004/03/13, 08:19 AM
konary gave good advice, work in your thr zone, as you get fitter you will see it rise less and you will have to exert harder to keep it up. Here is some info i give my clients about THR :


Understanding Your Target Heart Rate Zone

Understanding your Target Heart Rate Zone (THR) and working within its boundaries will help you maximize your time spent doing cardiovascular exercise.
When you exercise at the correct intensity you will achieve a higher level of fitness more easily than if you are constantly over-exercising (and fatiguing your heart) or under-exercising (and not challenging your body).
There are different ways to track your heart rate while exercising, some more convenient than others.
The simplest and most ‘hands-free’ method is to purchase a heart rate monitor that you wear around your chest. The monitor then picks up your heart rate and transmits it to either a wristwatch display or the cardio equipment you are on (if it is compatible). Monitors range from very simple up to very complex. A simple monitor will do if you can remember your THR, a more complex monitor can be programmed to alert you when you reach certain heart rate ranges.
The next method is a little more involved. You can take your pulse for 15 seconds and multiply the number of beats by four, thus getting your Beats Per Minute (BPM). To do this you need to find your pulse on your wrist just below the thumb side of your palm, using your first two fingers count the pulses while watching the seconds hand on your watch. You need to keep moving while you do this (so your blood pressure/heart rate doesn’t drop off and make you dizzy). Example: I counted 21 beats in fifteen seconds, therefore 21 X 4 = 84 BPM.
Another way to monitor your intensity while exercising is your Perceived Rate of Exertion. This method may not be as accurate, but will do if you don’t want to monkey around with a HR monitor.
Perceived Rate of Exertion basically has you ask yourself “How do I feel?”.
If you can easily talk and are breathing normally, you are at a very low level of exertion.
When you are bringing your intensity up, to challenge your system and improve your fitness level, you should be able to talk in-between breaths. So, if someone walked up to you while you were doing your cardio and asked “How do you like the weather we’re having?” You could answer “I” breath “like it” breath “just fine” breath. Now your are at the higher end of your intensity.
If you get to the point where you cannot answer a question and are gasping to get in enough air you are working too hard and will not increase your fitness level.
High intensity bursts are okay, for short intervals like a minute or two, but you will wear your heart out if you try to push it too hard for too long!
Last, but not least, you can monitor your heart rate using the hand-held sensor pads available on some cardio equipment. The drawback is that sometimes these pads don’t function very well and sometimes you will get erratic readings from them (some CD players and radios seem to effect them).
Okay, now you now the different methods for determining your heart rate and if you are in the ‘zone’. But what is your zone?
On the next page we will calculate your Target Heart Rate Zone.
V.I.P. Training, Inc.

Target Heart Rate Zone

Client ___________________________________________________

220-_________= _________. This is your Maximum Heart Rate.
(age)

Max Heart Rate______ X 55% = __________ Low end of THR Zone

Max Heart Rate ______ X 75% = __________ Middle range of THR Zone

Max Heart Rate ______ X 85% = __________ Upper end of THR Zone

Max Heart Rate ______ X 90% =___________ Top of THR Zone - Intervals only.


When you do your cardiovascular/ aerobic activities you need to get your heart rate at least above ____________ but not above ________ .
(low end THR) (upper end THR)

For High Intensity Interval Training you might get your heart rate up to the top end of your THR Zone, but you should only keep it there for one or two minutes and your recovery time at a lower intensity should be as long or longer than the time you had it up.

If you want to know how to tell if you have increased the level of your cardiovascular fitness you can try this simple method:
One day each week, before you get up out of bed in the morning, take your pulse for one full minute and write it down. This number is your Resting Heart Rate. If the number tends to stay the same, you are maintaining your current level of fitness. If the number decreases each week or two, you are increasing your fitness level (keep up the good work!). If the number gets higher, you are working out too intensely and fatiguing your heart, slow down a little and watch your Target Heart Rate while exercising!

If you have any further questions about cardiovascular exercise please ask your trainer, that is part of their job!


Please note: These methods do not replace the advice of your physician and do not take into account any heart problems or medications that may affect your heart rate. Anyone starting on an exercise program should discuss it with their physician. V.I.P. training, Inc. is not liable for any health issues resulting from these instructions. This is for informational purposes only.


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Reddy
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2004/03/13, 06:02 PM
Thank you - that is good

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parko03
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2004/03/14, 09:49 AM
Wow, Asimmer. Thank you very much!! :big_smile:

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wtowell
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2006/01/26, 06:15 PM
I have been scared the same way as park o3! My legs and my lungs feel like they can just keep going, but my heart rate of 170-180 scared me! I do elptical for 45min with no desire to slow down. I quit cigarettes 2 years ago and worry alot about the damage i've done and thanks to everyone here i realize i'm prob. ok! I've also been told by a friend that if you can add more resistance in your workout you'll get a better workout and manage your heartrate better.