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2005/12/01, 12:16 PM
first number is the weight. second is the set. last come the reps
10+1 reps is 10 reps, but a failed or "cheated" 11th rep.
Menace pyramids, so he doesn't put in his sets.
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2005/12/02, 02:44 AM
Yea wrestler got it right...
I usually list the sets as I do them...occassionally I do supersets but I still group everything together...
weight, reps, then I use + to indicate additional reps I did whether forced reps or reps where I got assistance (ie reps which I don't consider 'good/full' reps)...sometimes I fail at the bottom, sometimes I barely fail at the top but I still count it as a failed rep....
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2005/12/03, 03:39 AM
12/02/05 4pm
-played bball for 60-70 min...mostly just shooting around
Deadlift:
225-12 reps
605-3+0 reps w/wraps and straps..bar was out of my hands after 1st rep...
605-2+0 reps, stood on 35lb plates.....with wraps and straps
T-Row:
2-45s-12 reps
3-45s-2 reps
4-45s-2 reps
5-45s-3 reps, was close to max, did all sets so far explosively but without much lower back....almost all lats
6-45s-2 reps w/ wraps and straps
7-45s-1+1 reps.. ..pretty much 2 except I used bit lower back on 2nd....
.......6-45s-2+1 reps
..........5-45s-3+0 reps
................4-45s-4+0 reps
Pulldowns:
250-4+0 reps
5:30pm
END
-grip was crap but I did gripper work last few days so it wore it out.....overall a great workout...felt somewhat lethargic coming off a cold/flu but was pretty strong with my back....either did what I expected or improved....
-did a couple sets of abs on glute/ham and reverse hypers with no weight....while my friend was doing heavy hyperextnesions, abs, and reverse hypers.....also did DE deadlift...
small question for DE deadlifts....how far from the bar should u stand? normal? also how close to the ground should u lower the bar? (because my friend had trouble swinging to the side after bar touched/lightly tapped the floor....)....so I suggested he just come 1 inch to the floor and explode up...wondering whether this is correct....
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2005/12/09, 01:33 AM
12/08/05 6pm
Took creatine + lemonade mix + D-Ribose 1 hour before.....took ~160mg aspirin(broke 325 in half) and 200mg caffeine...
Bench:
135-15 reps
225-26+1/2 reps...new PR...arms went numb no idea how I got last 2 reps....my shoulder got fcked up a bit when I threw a bad pass in basketball.....so I could tell I was far from 100%...tho I felt like I had more endurance due to probably aspirin+caffeine....
275-13+1/2 reps...
315-5+0 reps....weight felt like a piece of $hit once I stabilized it...almost felt disappointed not hitting 6 or 7...
335-3+0 reps...once again...very thrilled....was hoping for 1-2 reps...
225-30+0 half reps...took triceps out of it just about...(chest to midway)
-my friend bet me these were harder....because this is how ROnnie Coleman does his sets...I said they are a piece of crap...I can usually hit 18-22 reps in this spot...so when I repped off 30 easy half reps...He had to say 'fcking ronnie...I lost some respect for him'
One arm external cable rotation:
50-10+0 reps
40-10+0 reps
30-10+0 reps
felt good had to fight for last couple reps per set....I went heavier than normal but I don't feel any negative effects from it...for me it feels like any other muscle/exercise as long as I use good form...
Left Arm DB french Press:
50-12 reps, maybe had couple more
50-6+0 reps, only rested 30-45 sec from previous set
50-8+0 reps, had 2-3 min rest
Crunches/Sit ups on Glute/Ham:
bodyweight-20 reps
+150lb with DBs-15 reps..
+150lb with DBs-15 reps..
Decline Sit ups: highest decline setting
bodyweight-full 25 reps+0 reps...stopped on 26th when I couldn't touch chest to knees....
7:15pm
END
-played about 2 hours of 21 and 1on1 bball afterwards....
felt good....thinking aspirin+caffeine gave me a nice boost...
-was thinking of doing squats but I as usual messed up my right knee doing I don't even know what...it hurt on outer inside portion...2 days off from any activity made my knee feel better so hopefully I'll do legs tomorrow...
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2005/12/09, 05:50 PM
Feeling good after last nights workout....my right knee is still bothering me(and I did myself no favors playing light pick ups yesterday)...so hopefully I will do it Saturday
If you tweaked your knee....say it's around 85-90% of usual.....how heavy would you go? work up to a heavy triple on the squat?
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2005/12/09, 08:04 PM
Only if your technique is dead on.
Whenever my knee is feeling it, I usually do some form of squat variation, front squat, overhead squat, low box squat. No accomidating resistance, but usually something lighter than I would usually be handling. Even speed squat.
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2005/12/10, 06:42 PM
12/10/05 90 min workout...operating on less than 5 hours of sleep....
Squat: 8-10inch close stance using 2.5lb under heels
135-12 reps
225-12 reps
275-3 reps
315-3 reps
365-3 reps+0 reps...messed up last rep and went awkwardly tilting to the left as my left foot went too much inward....
-sure was a good...morning...still leaning too much...
385-1+0 reps
405-1+0 reps, almost got stuck halfway but fought through..
went deep on every set....just about touched butt to calves...
Decline Sit ups: highest setting
bodyweight-10 reps
+10lb- 10 reps
+25lb- 10 reps
bodyweight- 20+0 reps...
-touched chest to knees....exploded on every rep....abs hurt like hell
-switched off with my friend on squats and sit ups...
Calf Raises: 4-45s-8+0 reps, very smooth and all the way down and up...held for a count of 2 at the top....was going to do smith machine calf raises but it was taken and I had to run...
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2005/12/10, 09:34 PM
We have progress!
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2005/12/11, 01:44 PM
The calves are probably the tightest muscle in the body. They have a greater stretch reflex than any other body part, and are covered in fascia. Try doing calf raises with a 2 second pause at the bottom. This will build strength in the strethed position, and help loosen the fascia. May also help you gain flexibility, as a mucle can only be flexible within a range of motion that it is strong in.
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2005/12/11, 03:24 PM
Good idea...I'll try it.....
Without something under heels...even something half inch in thickness....I tilt over to the front even more than usual...feels very awkward...
How many sets of calves would you do with your leg workouts for general strength/power?
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2005/12/11, 08:06 PM
I don't. All my calf work comes from fighting and drilling. 3-4 should be good. Calves and forearms are 2 muscle groups that respond best to high frequency lower volume. You get this through playing ball, so don't worry about it too much, unless it's a weak point.
For fighters, Martin Rooney recommends 3 sets. 1 set toes out, 1 set toes in, 1 set toes nuetral. This is not only to build strength, but mostly to prevent injuries of the ankle, as it is important for the calves to be strong in all directions, as that is how they are used in sports.
Are you sitting back far enough? I know I asked this in the help menace squat thread, but if you are sitting back far enough, there should not be that much flex in your ankles?
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2005/12/11, 10:08 PM
with narrower stance I definitely have more problems sitting back...but I think I sit back enough...I'll try to videotape my squats and post them...
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2005/12/12, 07:50 PM
12/12/05 1:30pm
Bench:
135-15 reps
225-10 reps
275-12+0 reps, was pissed...had no power...I did 3 plates of T-Row for 12 reps to warm up and stretch out my chest.....but absolutely felt weak...only 3-4 days since last workout on thu....and still felt somewhat sore....probably90% recovered...
315-5+0 reps
225-19+0 reps....
Incline Chest Press Machine:
305(stack)-12+0 reps....triceps failed first...
Smith Machine Calve Raises on Wooden Board:
6-45s plates total: 3 sets of 6 reps....2 sec pause and top and bottom
Sitting Calf Raises: 2-45s-6+0 reps. 2 sec pause at top and bottom...
2:30pm END
just stopped by to get in a quick workout before like 20 hour flight....hopefully this will keep me loose..
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2005/12/19, 06:12 AM
12/15/05
I came to train at this very old, run down place where Vitaliy Verstuk trains....(champion strongman in 2004)...He was in fact in the gym training when I was there....doing a bit of everything which surprised me....he did a variation of squat and good morning...lowering the bar on his back then dropping the hips...then raising his hips then raising his back...first time I seen this variation....
I finally did some deadlifts....did just 3 sets and used chalk....did 253kg for 2 reps, 263kg for 3 and then did 273kg for 2 ....which was surprising because I was able to do 2 reps of 600lb with no straps....
They noticed a big flaw in my form of raising my hips first and then pulling the whole thing with my back....they were saying \i was about to crap out my intestines and spine...but the weight seemed light to me, as \i was just trying to hold on to it without straps....but \i did try to nevertheless pull more with my hips...like I was saying for a while I pull mostly with my back....which is very strange but somehow works for me...tho I am trying to use more hips...
Wish I got a picture with \\vitaliy but oh well....he's a huge huge man....I seemed like a little boy next to him....his one leg was like both of mine and then some....tho I have a feeling he was going light this workout as he was hitting many lifts....he said strongman competition was over 2 months ago and that he got either 2nd or third after Zavickas....he speaks Ukranian and |I speak russian, which means I understood about 1/5 words he said to me...lol...
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2005/12/19, 12:46 PM
Ugh. I loath the good morning squat. I have only used it a couple of times, because I don't usually have a spotter for leg days, and I always feel light headed when doing them.
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2005/12/20, 08:46 AM
finally found an internet cafe here....lol
yea it looked painful....he was doing something upwards of 400-450 lb for good morning squats which seemed light for him, then did reverse grip bench press around 300-350lb, and light deadlifts with about 500-550lb.....he's a very friendly guy...loves to joke and was at times saying stuff in a very high feminine voice to be funny. He's seemed very cool, I just wish I knew wtf he was saying to me.
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2005/12/20, 09:14 AM
I bet he was saying something about the american "sissy" that uses a smith machine to squat! :big_smile::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
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2005/12/20, 12:10 PM
Ouch. Burned...
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2005/12/21, 05:02 AM
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2006/01/07, 10:53 PM
1/7/06 2:20pm
haven't been in the gyms for 16 days and been eating poorly and drinking while in Ukraine....very disappointed in that....haven't taken creatine consistantly.....so I knew what was coming.....
deadlifts:
225-10 reps...heaviest they ever felt
405-1 rep....felt like 600
w/ straps
592.5-1 +0 reps....forgot to add 7.5lb on right side...simply brilliant...no wonder left side was lagging..
600-1+0 reps
600-1+0 reps
600-1+0 reps
600-1+0 reps
Much harder to get off the ground then with the big plates ..i really wish I had those 50kg plates in this gym...those plates+chalk =extra 50-70lb strapless for me
T-Row:
4plates-3 reps
5plates-3 reps
6plates-5+0 reps, w/ straps
Pull Ups:
bodyweight(217)+75lb DB-2+0 reps to chin
Chin Up:
bodyweight(217)+75lb DB-2+0 reps to chin
3:50pm
pretty disappointed in myself...the 600 easily felt like 50-75lb heavier....o well....gonna get back on the horse....
also realized my deadlift form is trully odd/$hit....I have no strength in my hips...they come up almost right away and I pull the whole way with my back.....nothing pretty....the way I always have...but now I have been especially conscious of it after being pointed out by verstuk and his trainer victor.....eh.....
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2006/01/11, 04:18 AM
1/10/05 2:15pm
Sitting Shoulder Barbell Presses:snatch grip
135-12 reps
185-10+0 reps
205-7+0 reps
225-3+0 reps
225-1+0 reps
225-1+0 reps
225-1+0 reps
standing side DB raises:
25s-8+0 reps
bent over lateral raises:
20s-8+0 raises
-12 pull ups(215lb)
2:50pm END
was coming for chest/shoulder workout but I decided to warm up by shooting around basketball a bit and ended up staying too long...:/
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2006/01/14, 06:18 PM
1/14/06 1:20pm
Bench
bar-30 reps
135-15 reps
225-10 sets of 10 reps.....rested 2-3 minutes between first 9 sets and 4-5 minutes before 10th set...kept going little bit wider on the last few sets...started with thumbs outside outer rings and ended up 2 inches away from those markings.....with my hands against hooks(almost jammed hand on last set...LOL)...no spotter...last set came to just about full failure on 10th rep...maybe had 1 more...
Box Squats with a very wide stance:
bodyweight-12 reps
135-10 reps...this took a lot out of me....I did this and previous set between bench sets and took me a while too catch my breath....probably spent minute catching my breath...who needs cardio...LOL...
185-3 reps
225-3 reps
275-1 rep
295-1 rep
315-1 rep...came close to failure tho possibly had 1 more...leaned a bit forward on this and 295, but only slightly...and could feel it in my hips and glutes...so mission accomplished....
Standing one arm Cable External Rotator Cuff exercise:
50-10+0 reps
50-7+0 reps
50-6+0 reps
/\ pushdowns on pulldown station:
100-12+0 reps
110-10+0 reps
120-4+0 reps...gave out on 5th half way...was pretty disappointed...was trying to do 6-8 reps...but oh well..
2:45pm END
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2006/01/14, 06:50 PM
Yes 135 was a warm up set...I always do it first...today I decided to also do an even lighter bar warm up as well...usually I also do 225 as a warm up set as well...but today it was working sets...
I have no clue what my max is...it was approaching 400 at one point...probably 365-385 right now...
Very simple M57t...pick a weight that is about 50-60% of your max and try it...I did it just for something different for a change....next time I am thinking 5 sets of 15 with 2-3 minute rest periods...
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2006/01/17, 01:41 AM
m57t, I'll try answer some of your questions, but you started flooding me...sorry if I don't get around to answer all your questions...start participating on freetrainers and there are other people who'll be able to help you out as well...I am often on for a short time so I just pick my spots....if others can't answer your questions...I'll try to get to it....try to also check out the resources available on here...both nutrition and lifting wise...there's a lot of stuff that will be very helpful to you......you sound like you're on your way to success....just stick with it...it's about CONSISTANCY....that's it....if you do something right(or mostly right, as few are perfect) for a while you'll start seeing results...when you plateau you have freetrainers to help you out...
good luck
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2006/01/18, 04:45 AM
1/17/06 1:45pm
Sitting Calf Raises:
2-45s: 12 sets of 10....ballistic almost....up and down...no pauses....explosively...
Deadlifts:
335-5 sets of 5...did 3 sets with thick bandage wrapped over the bar making it 3' thick or more....could barely get my fingers around it.....also the softness of the bandage made it hard to grab the bar....had to reset midset a few times....however my forarms were dead.....was going 10x10 but I realized there was 0 chance I would even do half that...my form was breaking down at high reps...not sure deadlifts are appropriate at high reps/volume(greater than 30? 45?)
standing alternating DB curls:
70s-7+0 reps
75s-3+0 reps...
didn't pause but used good form...
exernal one arm cable cuff work
50-8+0, 7+0 reps....
2:45pm END
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2006/01/20, 12:39 AM
1/19/06 30-35 min workout
Sitting Barbell Military Presses:
125-10 sets of 10 reps...just about failed on last set...
Sitting Calf Raises:
2-45s: 10 sets of 10 reps....calves started cramping...up and down fully...very explosive...bounced some reps off my heels on the bottom....
standing bentover DB lateral raises:
20s-10+0 reps
25s-5+0 reps
20s-5+0 reps
-was a bit tired after playing bball for an hour or a bit more...only planned to warm up shooting around a bit...but decided to run one game as well after being there for a while...
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2006/01/23, 12:41 AM
1/22/06 6:25pm
Bench:
135- 10 reps
225- 15 sets of 10 reps....3 min rest first 8 sets....5 min rest on last 7 sets....had thumbs outside outer rings first 8 sets...then moved them out 1 inch on next 2 sets....and moved them 1 more inch out...right against the rack on last 2 sets......
Sitting Calf Raises:
2-45s+25: 15 sets of 10 reps....bounched at the bottom....exploded up....
/\ pressdowns on pulldown station:
100-8+0 reps
110-6+0 reps
120-4+0 reps
Standing Alt DB curls:
70s-8+0 reps
75s-4+0 reps
80s-1+0 reps...rested only like a min between last 2 sets...
7:57PM END
-m57t that's the whole point of these workouts...it's not about using a lot of weight or low reps for a few sets...it's about overall volume and less rest period(for me it's still fairly long)...it's a different approach to overload the muscles....I am trying to bench 405 or 225 for 30 reps....lets see what I will do first....
I think the box squats are slowly improving my glute/hip flexibility...as I was able to dig my butt further under myself today....which allowed for slightly better arch and more solid foundation....
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2006/01/23, 08:18 PM
1/23/06 2:30pm
Wide Stance Low Box(2-3 inches below parallel) Squats:
bodyweight-10 reps
135-10 reps
225-5 reps
275-3 reps
315-3+0 reps(did a couple sets of bodyweight and then with 75lb DB squats on bosu ball....beforehand 315 and 335)
335-1+0 reps...I was pissed....leaned too much on last set of 315 and this set....got stuck midway...
T-Row:(forgot straps...lol)
3 plates-3 reps
4 plates-3 reps
5 plates-3 reps
6 plates-1 rep...could feel the weight slipping out of my hands.....the rubber handles are $hit....
7 plates-1+0 rep....used staggered grip....probably had 1 more with straps...
Pull Ups:
bodyweight(215)+80DB-1+1 reps...kept getting stuck right near the top, trying to get chin over the bar
Close Grip Chin Ups:
bodyweight(215)+80DB-2+0 reps.....fought for it....
Wide Grip Pulldowns:
250-5+0 reps....
One arm cable external rotation cuff exercise:
50-10+0 reps
60-7+3 reps
60-5+0 reps
Incline Machine Press:
305-12+0 reps...did this for the hell of it...
took 200 caffeine + ~100-150mg aspirin(broke 325 in half)....before todays and yesterdays workouts....could feel a bit more energy...I made mistake of taking them too close to workouts so their effects didn't kick in until midway or at the end of the workouts....
3:50PM END
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2006/01/24, 09:25 AM
Very impressive menace ive noticed huge progress since i last checked here!
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2006/01/24, 02:57 PM
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2006/01/24, 02:59 PM
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2006/01/24, 02:59 PM
m57t, I appreciate your desire to help me, and I didn't think I was getting defensive(I was just explaining the rationale behind what I was doing)...I wasn't getting the desired effects lifting heavy weight for a low reps in any of my upper body exercises....what you suggested I have been doing all along...and the whole reason for the change is the exact reason you pointed out...my military press is quite a bit lower than my bench.....But perhaps I'll go a bit heavier next time...130-135 maybe...though I am not sure I can finish all of the sets and reps...
Aspirin is supposed to extend the effects of caffeine which I think works pretty well for me...I'll see what happens if I take it with correct timing....
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2006/01/24, 03:03 PM
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2006/01/24, 03:39 PM
Aspirin and caffeine have a synergistic effect on one another.
Ephedrine and acetiminophen are two more that can be added to this stack.
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2006/01/28, 02:06 AM
1/27/06 8:25pm
-200mg caffeine/100mg aspirin hour before workout
-set of crunches/sit ups to warm up
Romanian Deadlifts of the floor:
225-10 reps
315-5 reps
600-4+0 reps....PR...last set came up uneven but was fairly easy...didn't even bother working on form or using hips...kept my butt up as high as I could...all back...taking creatine for over a week consistantly gave me a big boost...few days did me a lot of good also...though my chest is still fairly sore...which is unusual as it's been over 5 days...
............Glute/Ham hyperextensions: bodyweight(217)+100DB-8+2 reps...explosive....last 2 reps were just a bit short of total lock out ...
Sitting Calf Raises:
3-45s: 10 sets of 10 reps....did 10-15 reps on some sets... if I felt I half assed some reps....explosive with bounce...but went up high on concentric portion...
/\ pushdowns on pulldown station:
120-11+0 reps
130-6+2 reps...leaned in too much on last 2 reps...
140-5+0 reps
150-3+0 reps...
160-2+0 reps....
-supersetted last 5 sets of calves with pushdowns
-reached conclusion that I seem to respond better with lower reps and high intensity for deadlifts than upper body...
10pm END
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2006/02/01, 04:00 PM
2/1/06 12:12pm
Bench:
135-15 reps
225-9 sets of 10, 1 set of 9, failed on 10th, was a bit pissed, no spotter so had to get up with the weight. Tried to stick with 3 min rest periods and probably overstepped my recovery abilities....supersetting with calf raises prolly wasn't best of ideas if I was trying to fully recover...
Sitting with calf raises:
3-45s: 9 sets 10, heels exploded off the floor, went up high, very fast reps, 1 set of 20 reps on the last set.
Snatch Deadlifts: tried getting down low, double overhand grip
225-3 reps
275-1 rep
325-1 rep
375-1 rep
Regular Deadlift with reverse grip: tried getting hips down low:
425-1 rep
decided to do a bit pinch grip work....
3-5s:about 20 sec with both hands for 2 sets with min rest...
tried 4-5s but had no luck, managed maybe 1 sec with right, just couldn't do it....dropped down to 4-2.5s still no luck...managed a couple seconds probably with right...said F it and went home
was working on 6 hours of sleep so wasn't exactly 100%awake even with 200mg caffeine and 100mg aspirin, good breakfast of 1/2 cup oatmeal with honey and can of tuna with gatorade. Oh well...
1:36PM END
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2006/02/01, 04:03 PM
pinch grip sets were 1 hand at a time*....
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2006/02/03, 12:15 AM
2/2/06 40 min light assistance workout
-played 90 minutes of basketball prior
-took 2 hours beforehand 200mg caffeine and 100mg aspirin
/\ pushdowns on pulldown station:
120-12+0 reps, 1-45plate strapped to me
130-11+0 reps, 1-45plate strapped to me
140-8+0 reps, 2-45plate strapped to me
150-5+0 reps, 2-45plate strapped to me
160-3+0 reps, 2-45plate strapped to me
standing 1 arm external cable rotation:
50-10+0 reps
60-5+0 reps
40-10+0 reps
standing alternating DB curls:
75s-7+0 reps, pretty smooth, no momentum, without pauses at the top, forarms were fried from pushdowns.....
was going to do some other assistance exercises, but the gym was packed so I decided to do it tomorrow morning.
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2006/02/03, 10:44 AM
Do you have small hands menace? Because it seems like pinch grip may be a weakness for you. Of course, the deadlift is mostly crushing and supporting grip, but if you have smaller hands, the thumb keeps the bar from slipping.
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2006/02/03, 03:07 PM
Not sure...my hands are average, slightly above average in size. I can palm some basketballs. Definitely wish they were bigger though. That's the one thing that would be huge for me in basketball and deadlifting, heh...
Pinch Grip definitely did seem like a weakness for me...
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2006/02/04, 04:03 AM
I am beginning to appreciate that stack ...works pretty well...more energy, endurance, suppresses my appetitea bit( i am always hungry, lol)...only thing is that I need to drink more otherwise I feel like crap...caffeine is a mild diuretic....so i get dehydrated faster....big deal during long activities like 5 on 5 bball ....
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2006/02/04, 01:00 PM
Hand size has more to do with it than you think. Generally, a person with stronger hands has an easier time holding on to awkward objects, so much so that it is a big thing in the grip training world.
Also, if your hands are small, then you use the thumb more as a brace in the deadlift, while with larger hands you can rely totally on crushing grip. That is why I asked his hand size after he mentioned his pinch grip numbers. If he had smaller than average hands, pinch grip would be something worth bringing up as far as deadlifting strength is concerned.
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Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/02/04, 06:44 PM
M57t imagine the bar thicker by 2-3 times....who will have an easier time gripping it?
A person with larger hands has larger surface area with which to grip the bar....so all else held constant, a person with larger hands has easier time gripping the bar....
Some of the strongmen competitors have huge hands.....Verstyk whose hand I shook, has a very large meaty hand(then again he's 6'3 140-150kg)....
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2006/02/04, 07:38 PM
Every wsm I've seen has humongus hands. And from what I hear, every man to close the IM # 4 has had very large hands.
go to gripboard.com, and try telling them larger hands don't matter. Keep in mind, these guys have the strongest hands in the world.
A person with bigger hands can wrap their hands all the way around it, and do a reverse hook/hook grip.
As for you backhanding people in the gym, that should be reserved for squat rack curls. If someone tells you they can out dl you, then let your lifting do the talking. Just be careful. Backhand the wrong person, and they will show you that your DL max doesn't matter as much as you think...
As for the iron and chalk thing in my signature, that is a throwback from me saying that the two most needed minerals in the body are iron and chalk.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/02/04, 08:37 PM
I have smaller hands and I can out DL you
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/02/04, 08:58 PM
who ever
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/02/04, 11:26 PM
mostly you, your mouth is the biggest muscle group you have and most likely the strongest since you are always flapping it
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/02/09, 03:15 AM
2/9/06 8:15pm
-ended up going to the gym late thinking I was going to work out with my friend but he never showed up, there went a quality spotter I was counting on
-experienced flue-like symptoms for like 2-3 days, so I was interested to see what I had
-initially wanted to do box squats since I haven't trained legs in a while but decided to stick with bench/rows
-took 325mg aspirin(as much for flu as for sports performance)+300mg caffeine....
-6g creatine+D-Ribose(placebo effect at its best but oh well)
Bench:
135-30 reps
225-15 reps, felt I had no power
275-10 reps, only had couple more, was pretty bummed
315-3 reps, had a couple more, thought I had 10 reps in me, yea right...
335-2+0 reps, maybe had another rep, but decided not to do it without spotter
355-2+0 reps, with spotter, got help unracking
365-1+0 reps, possibly had 2 but decided not to do it, with spotter, help on unracking
225-20+0 reps
225-12+1, failed on 13th rep at the bottom,
Sitting Calf Raises, explosively, heels exploding off the ground:
2 plates- 10 reps
3 plates-10 reps
3 plates-10 reps
3 plates-10 reps
3 plates+10-10 reps
3 plates+10-10 reps
3 plates+20-10 reps
3 plates+20-10 reps
3 plates+30-10 reps
3 plates+30-10 reps
4 plates-10 reps
4 plates-10 reps
T-Rows:
3 plates-10 reps, did them before 365 bench
4 plates-3 reps
5 plates-3 reps
6 plates-1 rep
7 plates-2+0 reps, used straps, very smooth, no lower back help and raised all the way up....the best 2 reps I have done on this exercise...
I was about to go and decided to throw in a set of curls
Standing Alt DB Curls:
85s-3+0 reps, pretty good reps, slightly leaned back on 3rd rep.....didn't use any momentum....paused for about a sec at the top...
-I got to about 222lb last couple of days, so I thought I would have more strength...tried to eat despite no appetite....probably ate over 5000 calories yesterday....900 and 1200 calorie 'snacks' lol alone....my friend was LOLing when he saw all that....ofcourse today I ended up eating barely anything , and sleeping most of the day....good old flu, thought I got through a year without it...but no....
-am hoping to hit box squats, military presses, and pull ups tomorrow, lets see how that goes...I think training for low reps works for me because of such long supercompensation phase that I end up having by only getting to the gym around 2 days....
-not sure where that volume training got me, would think I got weaker but getting over a flu somewhat distorts things...
9:30pm END
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2006/02/12, 04:34 AM
2/11/06 1pm
-aspirin+caffeine+4hrs of sleep :(
-stretched hip flexors+calves
Box Squats:
bodyweight-10 reps
135-10 reps
225-5 reps
275-1 rep
295-1 rep
295-1 rep
315-1 rep
335-1 rep+0
335-1 rep+0
275-1 rep
Did 3 reps of 135 front squats on the box at the end...
-took slightly wider than box stance...I might be going too heavy as I got no power off the box...I started leaning forward getting off the box after 275...was very disappointed with the results
Sitting Barbell Presses against a bench:
135-10 reps, felt like a ton
185-5+0 reps....still sore after bench but this is what i get for not training shoulders in a month...pathetic...
205-3+0 reps
205-0 reps, yea....went home right after this....
2:45pm END
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2006/02/14, 06:19 PM
2/14/06 50 min workout
Close Grip Bench:
135-12 reps
225-12 reps
275-7+1 reps, 8th rep was very ugly, should have had spotter
295-4+1, failed on 5th
Sternum Chin Ups:
5x5@(218lb), easily did them all, touched at the lower pecs
Cable Pulldowns:
250-4+0 reps to chin
left arm pushdown on pulldowns tation:
50-9+0 reps
60-4+0 reps
60-3+0 reps
tried to do sitting calf raises, but had no power, still somewhat sore, so I skipped working sets.
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