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JustinE22
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2004/11/16, 12:31 PM
I know that 8 hours of sleep is what's suggested but recently some construction just began near my house and has really been messing my sleep up i'm beyond angry, so now over the past 2 days i've been limited to about 6 hours maybe 7 but i doubt it. I've been trying to fall asleeo with ear plugs but haven't been successful guess it needs some getting used to. My question is can i make the sleep uo with a nap during the day or am i already screwed and should i not work out on these days i don't get rest. I may actually bag workingout till this is construction is over and go back to pittsburgh for a month or two, not sure what to do.
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2004/11/16, 12:44 PM
sorry forgot to ask if lack of sleep can lead to muscle loss as well?
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2004/11/16, 01:30 PM
Lack of sleep is very catabolic. Then you are working out in an already catabolic state. Glutamine can be helpful here.
Naps would be helpful. Sleep is essential, it is estimated that over 60% of repair is done at this time. Have you used ZMA? This stuff is awesome, a great sleep aid and anabolic hormone enhancer. I would be lost without it. I am a chronic insomniac, and am never ever without it. 8hrs. is not a hard rule. I rarely do that. It is a very individualistic thing. I find for me 6 hrs. is optimal. If I sleep longer I am real sluggish the next day, shorter and I am very tired. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com |
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2004/11/16, 01:35 PM
Be careful with naps. You dont want to nap for hours at a time or you will really screw your sleep cycle up. I feel for you man, I hate not getting my rest.-------------- I make fun of others to compensate for my low self esteem. It works. |
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2004/11/16, 01:37 PM
I'm gonna pick some ZMA up should i take it before bed? Will this stuff help me actually sleep past the construction noise? When does lack of sleep become catabolic,
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2004/11/16, 01:41 PM
ZMA is awesome stuff. Of all the stuff out there, this really works!
Yes, take directly before bed. It does not induce sleep, but rather enhances the quality of your sleep. You will sleep deep once falling asleep. This quality sleep is more important in essense than amount of time. It will make 4 hrs. for instance feel like 8. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com |
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JustinE22
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2004/11/16, 03:32 PM
4 hours feel like 8..really? So if i can only manage 6 of sleep instead of my 8 with ZMA it will make up the lost 2 hours in quality? I'm almost at the end of my bulk and i don't want this to screw up the 10lbs i've put on, it's taken a lot of hard work. This lack of sleep is really screwing me up i'm starting to loose my drive this morning i just felt like skipping breakfast and going out to eat and go buy a pack of smokes and just screw it. Have these past 2 days in a row of 6 hours of sleep already lead to muscle loss? I'm going to take today off and will have to take tomorrow off as well beacuse of work but will take 5g. of glutamine with each meal. I really hate construction , they really need to rethink what time they can start:angry:
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2004/11/16, 04:02 PM
forgot to add something, does ZMA work when you first take it or does it take a few doses before you feel the effects? We need and edit post option, sorry about the double posts.:)
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2004/11/16, 04:12 PM
It worked the first time I took it.-------------- I make fun of others to compensate for my low self esteem. It works. |
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2004/11/16, 04:34 PM
From Yahoo!
Study Links Sleep Deprivation, Obesity By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP Medical Writer LAS VEGAS - Weight-loss experts have a novel prescription for people who want to shed pounds: Get some sleep. A very large study has found a surprisingly strong link between the amount of shut-eye people get and their risk of becoming obese. Yahoo! Health Have questions about your health? Find answers here. Those who got less than four hours of sleep a night were 73 percent more likely to be obese than those who got the recommended seven to nine hours of rest, scientists discovered. Those who averaged five hours of sleep had 50 percent greater risk, and those who got six hours had 23 percent more. "Maybe there's a window of opportunity for helping people sleep more, and maybe that would help their weight," said Dr. Steven Heymsfield of Columbia University and St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital in New York. He and James Gangwisch, a Columbia epidemiologist, led the study and are presenting results this week at a meeting of the North American Association for the Study of Obesity. They used information on about 18,000 adults participating in the federal government's National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, or NHANES, throughout the 1980s. The survey includes long-term follow-up information on health habits, and researchers adjusted it to take into account other things that affect the odds of obesity, like exercise habits, so that the effects of sleep could be isolated. It seems "somewhat counterintuitive" that sleeping more would prevent obesity because people burn fewer calories when they're resting, Gangwisch said. But they also eat when they're awake, and the effect of chronic sleep deprivation on the body's food-seeking circuitry is what specialists think may be making the difference in obesity risks. "There's growing scientific evidence that there's a link between sleep and the various neural pathways that regulate food intake," Heymsfield said. Sleep deprivation lowers leptin, a blood protein that suppresses appetite and seems to affect how the brain senses when the body has had enough food. Sleep deprivation also raises levels of grehlin, a substance that makes people want to eat. It also hurts "executive function" — the ability to make clear decisions, said Dr. Philip Eichling, a sleep and weight-loss specialist at the University of Arizona who also is medical director of the Canyon Ranch, a spa in Tucson that offers health and weight management programs, especially for business executives. "One of my treatments is to tell them they should move from six hours to seven hours of sleep. When they're less sleepy, they're less hungry," he said. Eichling had no role in the new study but said it gives important evidence for a long-suspected theory in the field. Americans average only a little more than six hours of sleep a night, and one report a few years ago even suggested that the growing prevalence of sleep deprivation might be responsible for the growing obesity epidemic, he said. -------------- t I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies, for the hardest victory is over self. - Aristotle You have the power to change a life right in your own hands. - Paul Brandt |
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2004/11/16, 05:18 PM
I just picked some ZMA but the place I went to as usual the people who worked there were cluless. I was suprised to find ZMA behind a glass case with the pro hormones and other junk and the women told me it was used to prevent muscle break down before bed so as soon as she said that i was like get away from me. So i bought it it's by bodytech the only kind they had it's got b6,magnesium and zinc, is this the right stuff?.....The directions perplex me as they say to take on an empty stomach it also says take 3 capsules daily, should i just take three capsules before bed, i always have my pre bed meal of cottage cheese flax glutamine and a protein shake should i just take it after that? I also saw they had meatonin whats your thoughts on this stuff for sleep?
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2004/11/16, 05:24 PM
nevermind just read a previous post by ron that says it's better to make your 500mg. magnesium, 50mg. zinc and 25mg. of b6 i would rather do it that way plus the one i bought is capsule form. I hope this stuff is the real deal.
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2004/11/16, 06:17 PM
Ok got all three zonc,b6,and magnesium, the best i could find was 200mg. tablets for magnesium. Would 400mg. do the trick or is 500mg. too much. Do i have the other doses correct 50mg. zinc and 25mg b6. The women once again had to give her input and told me 400mg. of magnesium is too much and will loosen my stool(sp?) I'm guessing she doesn't know what she's talking about and that 50mg. of zinc is way too much as well. I believe she is full of BS. I'm still a little confused on when to take this stuff i usually have my pre bed shake as described above like 15 min. before bed...so what to do? again my apologies about all the posting.
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2004/11/16, 06:29 PM
Yep, will work from day 1!!!
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2004/11/16, 06:32 PM
This stuff will be fine, just ignore the other doseage. Take before bed on an empty stomach. If you are bulking, it is hard to ever have an empty stomach. Therefore, take it about 2 hrs. after your last meal of the day, and 1 hr. before your bedtime "meal". This will avoid much interference if your bedtime meal is alot of calcium, which can fight for absorbtion with zinc.
============ Quoting from JustinE22: I just picked some ZMA but the place I went to as usual the people who worked there were cluless. I was suprised to find ZMA behind a glass case with the pro hormones and other junk and the women told me it was used to prevent muscle break down before bed so as soon as she said that i was like get away from me. So i bought it it's by bodytech the only kind they had it's got b6,magnesium and zinc, is this the right stuff?.....The directions perplex me as they say to take on an empty stomach it also says take 3 capsules daily, should i just take three capsules before bed, i always have my pre bed meal of cottage cheese flax glutamine and a protein shake should i just take it after that? I also saw they had meatonin whats your thoughts on this stuff for sleep? ============= -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com |
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2004/11/16, 06:45 PM
Ok i got it, the cottage cheese is really the only thing that will have calcium so i'll take the ZMA mix an hour before eating the cottage cheese, i can't wait to see if i get a good nights sleep tonight, i really need it.
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2004/11/16, 07:54 PM
Good luck, I swear by it. I have it right along with my Vit. C...I am never, ever without it.-------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com |
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2004/11/17, 06:20 AM
What is ZMA? And can I get it here in Hungary do you know?
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2004/11/17, 09:52 AM
Well I'm done. I can't lift with 5 1/2 hours of sleep. So until i can sleep again i'm not lifting and i have put a lot of work in this and for it to go down the drains because of a sleep problem may keep me out for good i'm just too discouraged right now. It's 6:53 Am and i'm usually always up at 9:45 three days in a row now and i just can't work out and go to work anymore. I'm not sure what to do cause i'm so upset. peace
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2004/11/17, 10:09 AM
Have you tried melatonin?-------------- I make fun of others to compensate for my low self esteem. It works. |
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2004/11/17, 10:41 AM
No but i do have some, what exactly does it do?
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2004/11/17, 10:45 AM
Melatonin can help set your "clock"..but beware its useage over prolonged time, your body will quit producing its own. It is the "darkness" hormone.
Give ZMA a chance. It does work, try taking it tonight right before bed, even though you have a meal first. I do this alot myself. I am partial to the ZMASS chewable brand by Cytodyne myself. The chewable gets into your system very quickly. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com |
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2004/11/17, 10:45 AM
How bad is this going to mess up my gains? I took the ZMA last night so will that help pevent muscle loss? What steps can do to keep th muscle i've got till i can get back on my sleep schedule. I also think i'm thinking about it too hard therefore i can't sleep. I was fine till i heard a noise then i got up and went to the bathroom and that was it i couldn't fall back asleep, was that the ZMA?
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2004/11/17, 10:48 AM
Justin, in my advanced state of geezerdom, sleep is somthing I do less and less of. It used to drive me crazy. I have stopped letting it but thats another story. I now just end up reading 3 or four books a week.
I went to one of those sleep centers a few years ago and these are a few of the suggestions they gave me. They did helpat the time. 1 The bed is for sleeping and sex only. A- Don't read or watch TV in bed. When bedtime arrives , get in the bed and try to sleep for 30 minutes. B-If you don't fall asleep in 30 minutes get up and do somthing like read or watch TV. 2 Your wake up time must be rigid and enforced without fail. Wake up at the same time every day. If you are late falling asleep for whatever reason, wake up on time anyway. This one is crucial. Your body WILL adjust and commence into a regular sleeping pattern. 3 Don't break the pattern with naps. Naps can come later when you have established a regular sleep routine although they probably won't be necessary then.:big_smile: When your body gets tired enough, you'll sleep. By enforcing the regular wake up time it will become habit. When my sleep problems get really bad , I switch to circuits and lighten up the weight a bit. At least this way I won't lose all the gains. How long since you took a week or two off? That could help. Obsessing about sleep will be a vicious circle. Try to maintain your routine or modify it a bit but do try to keep pushing. Hope this helps. -------------- I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol Charlie | |
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2004/11/17, 10:50 AM
I'll keep trying, you just got me very worried that i'm loosing all my muscle from not sleeping. three days in a row now with not my normal 8 hours and i will have to put off another workout today and hopefully catch up tomorrow and friday. I'm hoping that my diet will keep me on track.
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2004/11/17, 10:52 AM
so you think i should still lift today? or wait one more night to see if i sleep better?
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2004/11/17, 10:53 AM
Glutamine can be of great benefit when catabolic/overtraining(same in many ways as lack of sleep). If you have some, use some.-------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com |
2004/11/17, 11:02 AM
You gotta decide that for yourself. You didn't build the body you have overnight. You won't lose it overnight either. The same is true for this sleep problem. You have to try the remedies offered and give them time. Is there somthing bothering you that may be causing it?
Like I said, there is a vicious circle going on here. You miss sleep. The next night you worry about missing sleep so you miss more sleep. Then it hits you that you're losing ground on your workout ....you miss more sleep. Like that?? The thing about a rigid wake up time 7 days a week will work. It will take time. Try not to worry. Man I hate it when people tell me that but it's true. You won't lose all your gains. What you lose, you'll get back. The human body is an amazing machine. Lack of sleep won't kill you. Good sleep habits have to be developed just like good workout habits. You have the workout stuff down. Work the other in the same way. -------------- I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol Charlie | |
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2004/11/17, 11:10 AM
I've had a rigid wakeup time for over a year the problem is that they just started construction next to my house and that is the problem i was fine before that. I've tried ear plugs but they make me feel to weird. I'm in the process of trying to move. They really piss me off:angry: I know but i don't want to loose it now i've got people coming to visit me in weeks and everything any other time would be fine i just wanted to make it through this bulk at least i got a good 6 weeks. I just don't feel like i could have a good workout today so i'm baggin that, i need my 8 hours to have a good workout. Thanks fo the advice guys appreciate it, i'm really discouraged right now and need the support.
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2004/11/17, 12:34 PM
alot of this could be stress...you wanting to go to sleep, i smaking you anxicious, an dyou can't caus eyour anxious.
Try a cd with rain or ocean in the back ground? My mom loves it! -------------- The following, has not be approved by the FDA or FT, it was not meant to diagnose,treat,or prevent any diease(s) Please consult a moderator or doctor before using any of the suggestions or comments. |
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2004/11/17, 12:41 PM
I think that is exactly it, me wanting to sleep instead of just letting it occur but i can't get it out of my mind. I'm going to take melatonin to help me get back in my groove. How long is too long to take melatonin?
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2004/11/17, 12:48 PM
I woudl try that, just my opinon....you canmes syour your own bodies, abiltiy to produce it, then you may become dependant on it, then you have new problems.
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2004/11/17, 12:59 PM
I'm gonna try it only for a few days and see if my body has adjusted i will let it guide me. I'm just gonna have to start waking up earlier now since construction starts so early. My main problem which you said is i'm thinking about ti too much which is giving me anxiety which won't let me sleep, the problem though is fallin back to sleep if i wake to go to the bathroom or something like that.
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2004/11/17, 01:12 PM
try head phones? My mom loves those thunderstorm cds, ocean streams, rain forest things.....says it helps her fall asleep. Do they construct all night? what they building a missle silow?
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2004/11/17, 01:20 PM
i can fall asleep ok it's just that they start so frickin early for me atleast at 7am and i work night and don't get home till 12 and usually don't fall asleep till 1-1:30 and i'm used to getting up at 9:30-9:45. so i'm gonna try to get to bed earlier.
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2004/11/17, 02:46 PM
How many grams of melatonin should i take?
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2004/11/17, 04:29 PM
Have you got a regular routine at night? That's another idea to try and get into - a regular sleep pattern can do wonders. Don't take caffeine after 6 at night (if you do) and try taking a warm bath (not hot) as your getting ready for bed. Hope it sorts itself out, nothing like waking up and feeling like you've not been rested.
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2004/11/17, 04:50 PM
Everyhting has been fine for the past years my only problem is the construction it just started last week.
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2004/11/17, 05:29 PM
how does glutamine help prevent the muscle from breaking down with lack of sleep?
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2004/11/17, 05:41 PM
Don't want to sound silly here, but there are a few basic things I look at to get some sleep. I battle sleepless nights more and more.
1) Dark room--obvious enough, but how much light pollution is coming in? 2) Cool room--I have to have a cool room to sleep. Even if I have a blanket on the bed. 3) Hot bath--it helps me relax and get ready. 4) Eye shades--if it gets really rough for me to sleep. You might think about getting one of those ambient noise machines. It sounds stupid, I know, but that kind of white noise background helps. It might help block out the construction noise a bit. I used to sleep in front of the TV on a channel that was blank to get that. Hope I was of some help. |
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2004/11/17, 06:17 PM
Get a small fan, and put it in your room. The white noise will block out the construction sound in the morning, and will help put you into a deeper sleep when you first fall asleep.
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2004/11/17, 09:00 PM
The metabolic properties of glutamine are mind-blowing. These benefits range from immune system regulation, nitrogen shuttling, oxidative stress, muscle preservation, intestinal health, injuries, and much more.
Two general forms of overtraining are sympathetic and parasympathetic. The former displays signs of edginess, insomnia, and lack of hunger, while the latter gives polar opposite inflictions: being tired, weak, etc. These two share a common ground, however, as they are accompanied with a hindered immune system. An impaired immune system promotes overtraining, and is further hurt when in such stressful states. In states of stress, such as sickness and overtraining, or if you feel you are nearing overtraining, you may want to double your dosage, depending on your previous consumption; regardless, definitely make a substantial increase in your GLN intake. ============ Quoting from JustinE22: how does glutamine help prevent the muscle from breaking down with lack of sleep? ============= -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com |
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2004/11/17, 09:01 PM
Don't give up on the ZMA, try it tonight right before bed. Make sure you are taking the recommended doseage, many are for instance 3 capsules for women, and 4 for men.-------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com |
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2004/11/17, 10:35 PM
could always try sound proffing your room. Maybe some foam or somthing over the window, dunno atom bomb go off I wouldn't wake lol-------------- The following, has not be approved by the FDA or FT, it was not meant to diagnose,treat,or prevent any diease(s) Please consult a moderator or doctor before using any of the suggestions or comments. |
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2004/11/18, 03:20 AM
welli probably took close to 50-6 grams of glutamine i remember yous saying you can never take too much hope i took enough and i hope i didn't take too much but i hope it helped preserve some muscle i was taking it ever few hours. I will stick with ZMA i just bought zinc magnesium and b6 individually and made my own 450g. mag. 50g. zinc 25g. b6 and 6mg melatonin i am ready to pass out. Good night talk to you in the morning i think i will take tomorrow off and just train over the weekend i think my body needs some rest, listen to the body right?
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2004/11/18, 03:20 AM
Oh yeah i took my ZMA with my pre bed meal which is cottage cheese flax and a protein shake is this bad?
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2004/11/18, 04:17 AM
I think i may be developing insomnia , i'm dead tired and still can't sleep took 3mg. more of melatonin. I get to the edge of a deep sleep and get pulled back back a rapod heart beat in my chest can't seem to stop thinking about having to sleep, can't get it out of my mind.I keep thinking about the construction waking me up so it really doesn't matter. it seems every little noise bothers me as i lay in bed the time now 1:17AM went to bed 12:30AM wanted to be a sleep by 1:00AM.
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2004/11/18, 11:07 AM
Insomnia is a tough thing...ZMA will not help that. I suffered from insomnia for many years, and was really detrimental to my gains I believe. I finally learned that I must relax before bed, and really clear my head. Once asleep, the ZMA is awesome stuff, because it puts me in that deep sleep that I used to lack. I used to be the lightest sleeper in the world, and if I ever had to get up for any reason, my mind would start working and I couldn't go back to sleep. ZMA again has solved that. The key for you is the first part, getting to sleep. Many posts above are indeed very good ways, there are a million, but coming from another chronic insomniac(me), I can tell you that none of them actually work. Finally learning to relax and reduce the stress was what finally did it for me. I make it a point not do anything before bed that will get me "thinking" so to speak, because even now if I do have something on my mind before bed, it haunts me all night, and I will have a very hard time getting to sleep. I think it is the personality trait, sounds like you have the same thing. The best advice I can give is to keep relaxing, try very hard to clear the mind before you go to bed, in other words don't think!!! This may sound weird, but it is what you really have to do. Then once asleep, the ZMA will allow you to sleep deep. Even when getting up to relieve myself now, I have no fear of being up the rest of the night, the ZMA allows me to go right back to that nice sleep. Best of luck bro, I feel for you. I really and truly do know what you are going through.-------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com |
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2004/11/18, 11:11 AM
The idea of going to sleep with the fan is a good one. I know a guy who works shifts and always goes to bed with the radio on low. Because he got used to going to sleep with background noise I think he'd sleep through an earthquake. It's all about conditioning your mind. Hope it helps and you get a good sleep soon.
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2004/11/18, 11:18 AM
Good post t-babe, this is the key. I can verify this, I came very close to going to clinical trials for insomnia. I am speaking from lots of personal experience.
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