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2006/01/31, 01:09 AM
Hello folks
I was reading Sylvester Stallones workout schedule and i have heard many people say doing hundreds of sit-ups won’t get you abs.
When i saw his Schedule it sais "Franco had Stallone training abs three times every two days, doing 500 reps every ab workout. "We trained four different ab and torso exercises: sit-ups, leg raises, side leg raises, and side bends. We did 50 reps of each, one exercise right after another, and five sets of this cycle. And wait until you see the results. Sly has great abs, intercostals, serratus, everything."
Now the rep ranges in that is very high how come people say not doing that many will make a difference it obviously has? I’m curious.
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2006/01/31, 01:11 AM
Here is his full schedule
MONDAY/WEDNESDAY/FRIDAY
Morning: Chest, back, abs
Afternoon: Shoulders, arms, abs
TUESDAY/THURSDAY/SATURDAY
Morning: Calves, thighs
Afternoon: Rear delts, traps, abs
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2006/01/31, 12:09 PM
I used to do 100 situps every second day when I was doing martial arts
it worked for me but some people say that its overworking the abs but i guess everybody is different.
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2006/01/31, 01:28 PM
Its not overworking them, its training like an idiot. Would you do 500 reps for your biceps? I hope not. Read "the most frequently asked question on ft" for more on this.
Franco trained his abs heavy.
And what makes you think that this bs routine actually was his routine? You think arnold really does that workout in M&F? You think that the routine Franco is said to use on some website was his actuall workout? Don't bet on it.
Most of the time, these routines are written by pencil necked ghost writers that pay to use a celebrities name.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/02/01, 12:07 PM
you already have abs! most people have a layer of fat that is covering them up.sit up and take notice what is going down the old pie whole! it starts in the kitchen. you can 1000 set ups /crunches this will strengthen your abs but body fat less than 10% will pop the abs.You can actually overtrain and make the abs protrude more under that layer of fat.
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2006/02/01, 01:09 PM
Wrestler, you got my respect I find you post excellent
but lately, I`ve been really thinking about the way I work out...when I was into martial arts I had no idea about proper nutrition, rest, etc. I was working thru soreness and yet I was very fit. More then I am now.
I look at some of my friends that own contraction businesses, they work hard, smoke, eat whenever and whatever they can, taking no supplements and staying up late... basically everything the opposite of what we`re discussing here.... and yet they are very strong and most of them have a nice definition.
so when I was doing 100 pushups I have experienced better results then doing less...
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2006/02/01, 01:28 PM
I trained the same way, and continue to as a full contact fighter.
Three points though- I believe in natural selection for sport. WWhat this means, is that if these guys didn't have the genetics to do this kind of work day in and day out, then they wont survive in the business. So what you see, are the guys that CAN do this type of work.
Also, this stems from a principle I feel strongly towards- That frequency is better than volume. Read any article by Chad Waterbury, and he explains how soccer players can run everyday, mechanics can use their hands everyday, and the cirque de soleil performers can perform every day. In other words, these guys "train" 5 days a week, but no "set" is taken to failure. Failure in the construction world would create problems. Instead, they are doing low intensity work for an extended period.
You had good results doing 100 push ups. I do 50 rep sets of push ups to get blood in my upper body, and for nothing else. Try doing 10 sets of 10 for weighted push ups, and see the results you get.
About working through soreness- I train total body 3 days a week, fight 2 nights a week, and train strongman for 3 hours 1 day a week. I AM ALWAYS SORE. However, I work through it. I never said soreness is an indication that you shouldn't train. Your body will adapt. As you can see, I am basicly getting a total body workout 6 times per week, not including things like soccer (goalie) swimming, etc. However, it took me a while to get there. But you will not find me doing 200 reps on ANYTHING.
If you want to train your abs with a thousand crunches, then go ahead. However, I feel like a record when I say this, but your abdominals are a phasic muscle group comprised predominantly of fast twitch fibers. Fast twitch fibers respond to intensity better than volume.
You can choose not to believe me, but if someone wasn't questioning me, thats when I get worried. Don't let respect get in the way and blind you from thinking. I am glad you asked.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/02/01, 08:41 PM
I thought of a good analogy for this. Think of an athlete that has a competitive IN season. This is the point where he is training 6 days a week, often in excess of 3 hours a day. But when does he get stronger? In the off-season. With significanly less energy systems work and much less volume.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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