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2002/09/10, 04:09 PM
I think there is a huge misconception here about losing weight and gaining muscle. Everyone seems to think that you can't do this at the same time. While this is true at some point in one's training, I would particularly contend that most beginners and intermediates can accomplish these goals at the same time. In fact, I would contend that this should be your goal! Your body is not going to feed off your muscles, thereby preventing size and strength gains, if you have much more readily available fat deposits to supply energy. At some point when your body needs more than your food intake and and fat stores can supply, your muscle gains will be sacrificed. However, this may take months or years to reach. I know from personal experience that over a 6 week period, I dropped 26 lbs and increased my bench by 40 lbs. Did I lose fat? Yes. Did I pack on muscle? Yes. Did I eat 3000 calories? No. Did I eat 1000 calories? No. What I did do was eat between 2000 and 2150 calories spread over 5 meals. This was done in conjunction with protein shakes. I had a balanced workout with a traditional intermediate type split and exercise selection. I don't believe you have to have one goal or the other. You can have both. It does require that you make sure that the calories you eat are not empty. They should promote muscle growth. Your body will use them for this. For the other energy needs, your body will go to the fat stores. I apologize for the rant and what I think is the first time I've ever started a post. However, I want everyone to know that in the beginning, you CAN have it all. It simply takes discipline and the proper attack.
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2002/09/10, 05:02 PM
amen yo lol
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Tiffany Der #10
"You have to make it through the rain in order to see the Rainbow........."
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2002/09/10, 05:13 PM
You need not apologize for the post, I think it brings up some interesting points. And I think it's cool that you're actually appearing on the boards more; it's nice to get different perspectives.
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2002/09/10, 06:05 PM
Hey w8lifter like lumina said dont apologize this is a great thing The whole point with the posting is to share info and ask questions so post away looks like you have some good input to help others.
Thanks
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Never be afraid to try something new. Remember the ark was built by amateurs, The Titanic was built by professionals.
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2002/09/10, 07:23 PM
Well, your hypothesis is exactly correct...for beginners and even intermediates. I think where the misconception comes in is at contest dieting. You have to get so very lean, that with the low caloric intake combined with the amount of work(and even the finest supplements and food), your body will at some point turn to catabolism of muscle. When competition time comes, it gets very tricky if not impossible to do. For probably most of the people on this board, your post is exactly true. Proper nutrition and good work ethic, and much can be accomplished. You are exactly right, and it was a good post.
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2002/09/12, 10:03 AM
I definatly agree, after my first 8 week plan i've lost 5kg in actual body weight but definatly added muscle. It is the muscle my girlfriend notices more than any fat loss.
It is only natural that if you start to eat healthily instead of eating junk you will lose some weight.
It is only natural that if you start to your your muscles instead of watching TV, you will get bigger muscles.
Putting these 2 things together doesn't change anything =)
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2002/09/12, 10:25 AM
I went through a similar situation with the weight/muscle loss and gain. I found that the lifting was easy its the diet that is difficult. Its like a science in some aspects to eat the proper amt of protein, carbs, fat, etc. This has been the challenging part for me and continues to be the area Im the weakest. Any suggestion on a site or book that will be to the point about eat this and dont eat that. Im fighting the gym right now with lifting and cardo but seeing slowwwwww results because of the eating.
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