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DLs on a smith machine

xxrajxx Posts: 423 Joined: 2004/08/12	2005/01/19, 08:11 AM well as the title says my gym doesnt have a barbell at all and doing DLs with DB, well can't do them properly also the S' Machine doesnt allow the BB to go all the way down, it stays off the floor about 8-10 inches is that acceptable as a DL or do you guys have any other suggestions. ( I did them for the first time and was doing reps with around 250-300 :cool::big_smile: )
Carivan Posts: 8,542 Joined: 2002/01/20	2005/01/19, 08:29 AM You can use dbells also. (with 2 hands) -------------- Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press. Ivan carivan@freetrainers.com Montreal Canada
xxrajxx Posts: 423 Joined: 2004/08/12	2005/01/19, 08:47 AM thanks Ivan have tried it with DBs but it doesnt feel right, cant seem to get the form right... will ask my trainer to guide Raj
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2005/01/19, 09:08 AM Number one the smith machine is not a good way to do Dl with since it locks you into one plane of motion. 2 I find it hard to believe that for your first time doing them you hit 250-300 for reps. Do not forget that the smith machine is not going to weigh the sames as a barbell. I would try to get a barbell to use. -------------- If you can itch your nose after arm day...do another set! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
xxrajxx Posts: 423 Joined: 2004/08/12	2005/01/19, 09:17 AM thanks mutt Will ask my gym if they can get a barbell kind of flattered by the 2 part did on the smith machine ( honoustly I was well suprised as well, cant bench nothing, cant squat nothing.....) 8x150 6x200 6x220 4x250 these are pounds not kg :big_smile:
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/01/19, 09:31 AM also by doing this, your only doing partal range, the lift off the floor is the hardest part. Like mutt said, it locks you in a plan of motion, so you can lean back to "lockout"..........even if i had to buy one myself, i'd buy one. -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
xxrajxx Posts: 423 Joined: 2004/08/12	2005/01/19, 09:41 AM can u imagine carrying you own bb to you gym :big_smile::big_smile: thanks guys
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/01/19, 09:43 AM what kinda gym you go to that don't have a barbell? -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
xxrajxx Posts: 423 Joined: 2004/08/12	2005/01/19, 10:30 AM its more targeted towards the fitness ppl it does have some weights but no BB upside loads of gorgeous woman downside no BB will ask them and see if we can get one I think it could be funny taking your own BB to the gym Raj
	2005/01/19, 02:38 PM I know of same type of gym....worst one in san fran...fitness usa 2000.....no barbells , dbs to 75.....got a smith machine a couple years ago only.. to fix the 8-10 inches....stand on a bench......or a block....and adjust your body to compensate for the fixed range of motion.... suspended cables on smith machine range from 15 to 35 lb....not 45 like a regular one...
xxrajxx Posts: 423 Joined: 2004/08/12	2005/01/20, 03:24 AM thanks menace thats good advice but not sure what you mean by adjusting my body to compensate.
	2005/01/20, 04:30 AM stand closer to the bar...maybe tilt your body slightly different....ie to adapt to the fixed range of motion ...when you do deadlifts the bar moves in an arc of sort...don't know how to really fix that problem....deadlifts are very hard to do on smith machine.... I have a tendency to push backwards when fighting for reps.......I can't imagine how I would do that on smith machine with its fixed up and down pattern...do yourself a favor and find another gym....even if it's really close....doesn't sound like much of a gym...I have been in over 10 gyms around san francisco....a few of them I hated either because of lack of equipment, clientelle, location, pricing, etc....you have to find a gym that works for you...barbell is a basic equipment that any gym should have...enough said...
xxrajxx Posts: 423 Joined: 2004/08/12	2005/01/20, 04:42 AM thanks M I have been in 4 different gyms around my area only one of them had a BB and that is way over crowded for me to go to. will suggest to this gym that they get one Raj
	2005/01/20, 05:29 AM no prob.....overcrowding is only during peak hours for most gyms...so go either in the morning or late in the evening....avoid 4-7pm that's when it's most busy for majority of gyms....