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2004/02/07, 10:27 AM
Well this morning I was at the gyms doing dead lifts. I was taking it slow to keep good form and only doing 4 reps per set. Towards the end of my last set I started feeling something giving in my lower back. I am wondering was my form off or just to much wait for me.
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2004/02/07, 12:16 PM
What do u mean when you say something giving? Was it like a sharp pain, soreness, weakness or what?? Did your lower back just give out on you???
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2004/02/07, 01:54 PM
Dhurt55 it started out feeling like some thing pulling. Then was just a sore weak feeling I couldnt do any mmore. Maybe my back just gave out.
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2004/02/07, 08:07 PM
sounds like you butt may have popped up a lil bit, and may have strained it a lil bit, any kinda pain in my lower back I stop no matter what weight i was doing, and finish up with back hypers, don't wanan take any chances, and congrats on being one of the few deadlifts out there! i'me one of 3 people I think that deadlift at my gym
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---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records!
LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
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2004/02/08, 08:05 AM
TY for the help guys my back is a little sore today so I think im taking a week off from deadlifts.
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I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
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2004/02/08, 10:09 AM
Ha...I am the ONLY one at my gym that deadlifts Andrew!! And while the other guys joke me and benchpress...I just laugh to myself......
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"Without Pains, there come no Gains" -Benjamin Franklin
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2004/02/08, 11:28 AM
At the ballys I go to they look at me like what are you doing. all the people there only seem to work arms and chest
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I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
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2004/02/08, 01:36 PM
I see a few doing 3/4 deadlifts or half deadlifts but o well, and the people who do them don't do them correct there butt pops up and its liek a stiff legged deadlift..............mmaibohm heres a good thing i do if my back is acting up a lil bit........try doing partial deadlifts. GEt in a power rack and oput the safty bars at your knees ( about a foot off the floor) put the weight one their you would usually do, and use the same form you regualry would.
usually when peopels butt ' pops up" is right near where your knees are, and it puts 70percent of the stress on your back, partial deadlifts gets past that "sticking" point and allows you to work on the form from there up, most of us can get it off the floor, but poop out near the knees. Give these a try they helped me alot when i hurt my back.......by the way do you deadlift sumo style or somthing, cause that does emphisize a lil more back motion. I ask this cause alotta bigger guys( I used sumo my self for a while) do sumo style
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---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records!
LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
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2004/02/08, 03:22 PM
Bigandrew I have been doing them standard feet about shoulder width apart.
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2004/02/08, 05:01 PM
ph ok , just make sure butt down, head up, drive heals through floor
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---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records!
LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
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2004/02/09, 11:38 AM
As long as you don't have a pre-existing back condition, it sounds like it was do to your form. Contrary to popluar belief, deads are quite safe, when done properly. When you go back to them, lower the pounds and work on your form, and, if possible, have someone else watch your form. Don't let your butt raise first, keep your back straight, etc. Also, work on strengthening your abs - they are your back's support.
Good luck...
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Quoting from mmaibohm:
Well this morning I was at the gyms doing dead lifts. I was taking it slow to keep good form and only doing 4 reps per set. Towards the end of my last set I started feeling something giving in my lower back. I am wondering was my form off or just to much wait for me.
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Michael
Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!
Chaos, Panic, Disorder.... Yes, my work here is done!
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2004/02/09, 11:49 PM
I tried deadlifts today for the first time, I also felt a pull in my lower back. I think i was doing too much for the last set or two. Its a little tender now, but not too bad. Awesome exercise though. Takes tons outta ya.
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2004/02/10, 12:11 AM
yes, it does your whole darn body lol
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I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
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2004/02/11, 07:36 AM
Guys are you sure what you are feeling is not just the lower back working? I want you to be careful and make sure your form is great but this exercise will cause some discomfort in that area...just a thought.....
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2004/02/11, 09:11 AM
Thats what I thought as well ,Mutt. I have a slight pull in my lower back just like in the hams and shoulders. It transforms into soreness in these areas similar to any other body part. In my case I have had recourring back pain since an injury in the navy and I am always more sensitive to that area.
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Some times life is like herding cats.
Charlie
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2004/02/18, 08:26 PM
As soon as I'm doing deadlifts I am tired as hell. I do them towards the end of my workout so i have enough steam to finish. Great exercise though, I love loading the weight on there makes me feels good.
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2004/02/18, 08:33 PM
yes, the dead lift does give you that rush of I just picked that weight up off the floor. - Mike
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I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
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2004/02/18, 11:18 PM
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Quoting from mmaibohm:
At the ballys I go to they look at me like what are you doing. all the people there only seem to work arms and chest
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Yeah, I always get a kick out of these guys whose arms are thicker than their thighs. I guess it never occured to them that you can't shoot a cannon out of a canoe.
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2004/02/18, 11:38 PM
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Quoting from JustinE22:
As soon as I'm doing deadlifts I am tired as hell. I do them towards the end of my workout so i have enough steam to finish. Great exercise though, I love loading the weight on there makes me feels good.
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I'd recommend that on days when you are deadlifting that you make it the 1st weight exercise of the workout (after a warmup). All other exercises done done thereafter should be considered auxillary to the DL.
Why? Because this is the king of all strength training exercises and should be done when you are at your freshest (mentally & physically). Heavy deadlifts are as much a mental exercise as they are physical (some of you will understand what I mean). If you run out of steam later in the workout on subsequent auxillary exercises - no big deal because you did the exercise that matters most while at your best for that day.
The same principal holds true on squat days.
BTW - The first auxillary exercise I do following deadlifts is Good Mornings. This provides a great active stretch and strengthening to my hip & trunk extensors. My low back/sacroiliac region always feels way better after DLs if I follow them up with GMs than if I don't.
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2004/02/19, 08:11 PM
other day i was doing deadlifts, and this lil sckrany weight room attendant came over and said ,I was doing to much weight, making too much noise, and it was distracting.
Knwo what I did? I went from 315 to 365 to 405 beat that was disturbing! Lil punk he needs to do some deadlifts or eat a sandwich one
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.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records!
......minds are not vessles to be filled, but fires to be enlightened
......Confucious once said ,DO NOT play leap frog with a unicorn
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2004/02/19, 08:15 PM
Nice bigandrew way to rise to the occasion lol Whish i could move that kind of weight.
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I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
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2004/02/20, 02:27 AM
Mike, there's no reason why you won't be able to do that weight, and maybe even more! Everyone has to start at the beginning...
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Michael
Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!
Chaos, Panic, Disorder.... Yes, my work here is done!
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2004/02/20, 02:47 AM
rev8ball your right(as always) maybe instead of hope I should set a personal goal to be able to move that kind of weight in a years time.
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I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
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2004/02/21, 09:55 AM
Well I think i got the form down better today, not as much pain in my lower back!! I was also able to get 215 off the floor for 1 rep I probably could have done more but didnt want to push it. Since I was all ready doen with my sets.
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I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
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2004/10/15, 12:32 AM
I need to get my deadlift up fast. It is my weakest lift. Any tips:dumbbell:
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2004/10/15, 01:25 AM
mmaibohm I think I know exactly what you describe...happenedto me once...I lifted weight off the ground liek a a few inches, then felt sharp pain, dropped weight to the floor and collapsed....After like 15 minutes, i sucked it up and finished my back work out....but next day and a half when i woke up...I was in excruciating pain...I could not lay, stand or sit...I was scared as hell, afraid I messed something up...it was at the lowest portion of the lower back...Weird thing is that after day and a half it went away...and was sore...Don't know what to take from the experience except to be carefull..Now I get the weight off the ground but sometimes can't lock out...which is usually vice versa for my friend...who if he is able to lift it off the ground he can lock it out...
...Jdog1...I started with crappy form 2-3 years ago...i went up to 315 and did it with round back and swung the weight...scaring all the trainers there....So I gave it up and started doing a lower back machine....I ended up working upwards of 200(Stack) for about 25 reps...when I came back (accidently, when my friend an ex-powerlifter was doing it and jokingly asked me to lfit the weight after he could not)...I lifted 405...and then 455...surprised the heck out of myself...Point is you can get very veyr strong with a back machine even if your technique is good...counter to what people think/say about machines...I also use a style that's a cross between romanian deadlifts and stiff legged deadlifts...this forces me to use my back much more during the lift...So you can use these alternates to deadlift...Also try to do speed deadlifts at 50% of 1 rep max and do that for like 2-3 working sets of 3-5 reps , lifting the weight as fast as possible , while descending back down in a controlled slow manner...I try to do my warm up set for example with a combination of all 3...I do it for 12 reps as fast as possible doing romanian deadlifts, with a good form, with complete extension...It works like a charm for me...I use higher reps to warm up not to do it as primarily 'speed deadlifts'....Also do stiff legged deadlifts for your hamstrings as they are vital to a big deadlift...Anywayz hope u can get something useful out of this...gl
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2004/10/17, 06:59 PM
thanx :)
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2004/10/21, 05:49 AM
bigandrew i got even a better story..I was doing deadlifts at a ccsf..community college gym...I got up to 495...only to have a 'gym teacher' come over and tell me the bar is not designed for that much weight and to stop doing it....i thought i was gonna laugh myself to sleep that day....I proceeded to do the weight with a smile...cracks me up to this day...eh...just pathetic how that guy actually teaches a bodybuilding class....well technically he just sits there but still...eh what can i say
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2004/10/21, 06:21 PM
some actually aren't. Bench bars look a lil different from squat bars.....bench bars usually don't have the serrated grip in the middle, squat bars do, to help it stay on your back.
Most gyms though go the cheap way and get all squat bars or all bench bars.
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2004/10/22, 04:51 AM
don't know looked like the same standard bar I use at other gym...I believe I got it out of a squat rack...so it was fine for the purpose I was using...no other gym teacher there said anything, and there were around 10 diff people , cuz i didn' on many occassions, i doubt they are all ignorant and he happens to be the only knowledgeale person...I think reason he got pissed was cuz I dropped the bar to the floor at the end of the set...which I usually don't do...i usually try to set it back down...
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2004/10/22, 12:41 PM
then set it back down, unless the weights are rubberized, a controled descent works the muscles too,not just the "up" part.
Metal plates are expensive, they just don't want you letting them hit the floor hard.
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2004/10/23, 05:01 AM
i know andrew..heh...i didn't really throw it down, maybe like light bounches...I try to do it explosively on certain work outs..so it jsut works out that way..whatever...nothign that of improtant to discuss heh...but i still love the place shaking...lol
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2004/10/27, 05:00 PM
I control the bar down because thats how you have to do it in competition.
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2004/10/27, 05:11 PM
Usually your squat is bigger than your deadlift. My squat has passed my deadlift finally after working through hip issues. Even when the deadlift is better the squat should still be within 100 lbs because of the deadlift.
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2004/10/29, 04:25 AM
not for me:(....I missed 405 squat last time...and i deadlift 675 with straps
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2004/10/29, 04:26 AM
me and my chicken legs lol
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2004/10/29, 12:58 PM
mine are close even....I dl about 30lbs more. Coarse I don't max on squat much.
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2004/10/30, 10:02 AM
How can your squat be bigger than your deadlift? That doesn't make sense to me. PLease explain.
The way I see it, (first of all I deep squat...)you are using primarily all legs to do squats, but with deadlifts you are using back and legs. I can rep 345 on deadlifts but i can only deep squat about 225 for reps.
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Usually your squat is bigger than your deadlift. My squat has passed my deadlift finally after working through hip issues. Even when the deadlift is better the squat should still be within 100 lbs because of the deadlift.
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2004/10/30, 10:05 AM
Also, on deadlifts you generally start at parallel with legs or maybe slightly higher. At least I do.
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