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mmaibohm
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2004/06/14, 09:46 AM
yeah 180 bench press 225 dead lift 300 squat

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DanielJLove
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2004/06/14, 11:30 AM
Just to check in, and say I am still running for the prize, I am here. However, I am unable to give very accurate numbers this week, because I am in the high rep part of my workout (12 reps). That being said I did have to increase the weight on Bench and Squat to make the sets hard enough, so watch out. However, on deads, just doind 12 in a set was a task and took a lot of concentration.

Mike and Princess congratulations on your numbers and keep going. Great job.

Daniel Love
hecdarec
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2004/06/14, 01:24 PM
I have no progress report to give. 2 weeks is not enough time for a well oiled machine such as myself to make significant changes. I need a month before there is a noticeable difference. The fact that I ate like an undisciplined slob this weekend doesn't help either.

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Datdanigirl
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2004/06/14, 02:08 PM
Daniel, you can use the 1 rep calculator to get your figures even in the high rep part, right?

Whatever you increased the weight to for the 12 reps, it will calculate the expected 1 rep max.

This is how I get my 1rm's for the challenge because I'm not comfortable trying to do a rep at the max (work out alone).

Hec, my progress is minimal this week too, but I'm going to post biweekly updates for everyone - they don't have to be significant?

Everyone, the first two weeks may not be much but it will all add up in the end.. I'm sure we'll all put up our greatest results at different points of the challenge but do send in your updates - it's part of the motivation even if there's not much to show yet!

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hecdarec
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2004/06/14, 02:14 PM
I am sorry for being selfish, I will send in my results. What do I need to send in? I am too lazy to research it.

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DanielJLove
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2004/06/14, 02:29 PM
I wasn't being selfish, they just don't translate to anything. However, here they are.

My best squat set was 14*245 for a calculated max of 340 and a 40 lb loss from my previous max

Bench is 16*170 calculater went to 15 reps, so that is what I entered and came up with 251 for a loss of 24lbs

Dead is 12*245 for a calculated 354 and a loss of 40 lbs.

Daniel Love
hecdarec
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2004/06/14, 02:30 PM
That is why I dont want to do my one rep maxes. I am going to be lower than when I started. I am only turning in my bodyfat. Dock me points if you have to.

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Datdanigirl
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2004/06/14, 06:53 PM
Interesting... and pointless. Sorry! ..perhaps the effort of looking it up and typing it burned a few calories?? :(

It's bench, deadlift and squat (clothed) maxes, your royal laziness.. but hey, don't turn 'em in if you don't want, I'm just pointing out that it was established at the beginning of the challenge that we would check in every two weeks.

Obviously if you don't we can't make you do pushups anymore because that would give you a competitive edge. Instead of docking points, we will send you out for cake and ice cream.

Have seconds!!:big_smile:

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2004/06/14, 07:26 PM
Dani, I am also doing a workout that calls for light weight for a time. I will update when it's meaningful. It's also wise to keep the puppies guessing. My record is in my journal.

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hecdarec
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2004/06/14, 08:08 PM
When was it established that we would check in every two weeks? How was my not wanting to post my stats pointless?

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david_s81
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2004/06/14, 08:20 PM
bench - 225 one rep, dead - 225 3 reps, squat 185 - 5 reps. My squat max is crap. I need to get that up up and away.

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bigandrew
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2004/06/14, 08:32 PM
I can't member when I sent for my maxes but this is my new reps.........the higest I have done so far is...
275x3 bench
475x3 deadlift
430x3 squat.........gotta get that bench up man its pathetic!

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Hellscream
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2004/06/14, 09:08 PM
lol, the bench looks pretty impressive to me.
mmaibohm
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2004/06/14, 10:34 PM
Not bad andrew 225 if my goal for bench by end of contest lol.

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DanielJLove
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2004/06/15, 12:11 AM
Hec,

You not wanting to post stats wasn't pointless. I think the posting of my stats is what Dani was saying was pointless. :)

Daniel
DanielJLove
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2004/06/17, 11:39 AM
Alright team,

Here are some stats that are worth reporting. Calculated maxes---
Bench 283
Squat 395
Deadlift not till Saturday

Weight 269
2004/06/17, 11:49 AM
Danielj, lifts up, weight down. Looks like progress to me. Nice.

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DanielJLove
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2004/07/01, 12:13 PM
Calculated Maxes

Bench 292
Squat 419
Deadlift 393

Weight 267
Datdanigirl
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2004/07/01, 01:49 PM
Wow great progress!!

10% increase in overall strength... 7% on bench, 2% on dead, and 18% on squat.

Anyone out there that can beat that??? (not raising my hand!)
mmaibohm
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2004/07/01, 05:20 PM
200 bench
250 dead
310 squat(me knees are acting up)

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princesslodgey
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2004/07/02, 07:36 AM
I am going on holiday for 2 weeks and will have no more figures until I get back.
I predict that gains in lifting will be negated by equal gains in weight!

Happy lifting kids :dumbbell:
mmaibohm
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2004/07/02, 07:54 AM
not to be picky but 1 rep max is your max you cant calculate it higher.

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hecdarec
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2004/07/02, 08:31 AM
Yeah I dont like the whole calculating thing. When it is time to max I am going to go into the gym and max out.

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DanielJLove
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2004/07/02, 09:21 AM
That is why I label them as calculated. I know they aren't as accurate as a one rep max, but it works for checking in. I don't think everyone is going to be comfortable with doing one rep maxes, so the calculator allows them to play as well.

Daniel
hecdarec
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2004/07/02, 09:29 AM
I agree daniel. I am not comfortable doing heavy lifting so I am going to bench press the bar as many times as I can and use the calculator to tell me ho much I would have lifted.

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DanielJLove
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2004/07/02, 11:06 AM
As long as it isn't over 15 reps, the calculator will help you with that endeavour Hec. Good luck.

Daniel
DanielJLove
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2004/07/02, 11:11 AM
Just to clarify though. I am not afraid to do one rep maxes, and will do them at the end of my eight weeks. I was just checking in with the calculations.

Daniel
hecdarec
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2004/07/02, 11:12 AM
No need to clarify daniel. We all know that you are the darkhorse up in this piece.

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DanielJLove
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2004/07/02, 11:18 AM
???????

I am not sure if that is good or bad. Not familiar with that phrase.

Daniel
hecdarec
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2004/07/02, 11:26 AM
Sorry, I spoke ghetto for a second. You are the favorite to win it.

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DanielJLove
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2004/07/02, 11:32 AM
I got to get caught up on my ghetto, it certainly is a weakness in my linguistic skills...

Daniel
2004/07/02, 11:38 AM
I'm confused here. Are you guys saying the calculated 1 rep max is higher or lower than actual?

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DanielJLove
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2004/07/02, 12:22 PM
Charlie,

I have seen it both ways. When I use high reps with lower weight the calc rep tends to be lower than my actual max. Other times I go to Max and the calculation is higher than what I can lift. I think a lot of it is psychological. I don't think the calculation when you use lower weights is that far off, but when you see the weight on the bar and feel it in your hands it can be different. I have been known to psych myself out.

Daniel
DanielJLove
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2004/07/02, 12:24 PM
I made a mistake in what I typed. What I meant to say is "I don't think the calculation, when you use lower reps/higher weights, is that far off"
2004/07/02, 12:29 PM
I don't have a spotter and have no desire for an ugly death under the bar. I have been using a weight that I can move 3 or 4 times and then plugging that into the calculator on the sight.

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DanielJLove
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2004/07/02, 12:34 PM
I think that is fine. As long as you continue to do it the same way it will show progress. It is like the bodyfat calculator. It may not be the most accurate measure in the world, but as long as you don't switch methods, it will show you what you are doing. Besides, I think a triple is considered pretty accurate.

Daniel
2004/07/02, 12:35 PM
BTW ,I concour with hec on the dark horse thing. It's not ghetto though. The dark horse is the unnoticed one who emerges from the pack and wins the race.Like I said in your log. It's been a pleasure watching your progress.

But beware hec, is sandbagging. I've hauled enough marines around to know how to spot it. The devil dogs are a great asset to the navy.:big_smile::big_smile:

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DanielJLove
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2004/07/02, 12:37 PM
Thank you....
hecdarec
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2004/07/02, 01:20 PM
The 1 rep calculator may be accurate, I don't know. Since I have a spotter, I am going to do the actual weight.

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2004/07/02, 01:22 PM
Thats what I was askin hec, do you think you get more doing the 1 rep with a spotter?

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hecdarec
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2004/07/02, 01:28 PM
yes

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mmaibohm
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2004/07/02, 08:30 PM
The one rep calc never works for me becuase I always go for broke spotter or not. SO what I list is it lol.

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howdiekat
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2004/07/02, 08:34 PM
i will say that my actual 1rms are higher than what's calculated, mostly because i don't go to failure on most of my sets. it says my max squat is 190 on the calculator. i think i could probably crank out 205 on a good day. same thing with deadlifts - i don't think 225 is out of my range, but the calculator says 215. i think it's mind over matter.

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mmaibohm
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2004/07/02, 09:45 PM
howdie as always you rock.

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I am that
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2004/07/06, 02:19 PM
Where's Dani????????????


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Charlie
2004/07/13, 01:20 PM
Calculated 1 rep max as of week six

squat 403 187%
dead 294 136%
Bench 196 91%

Weight 215

Average is 138% which is up from 132% at the beginning. I'm 2 weeks from hitting real maxes. The routine I'm doin allows me to lift at 90% this week and 95% next week. I still do 3 to 4 reps and calculate since i have no spotter.


I will win.

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Charlie
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