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Pritchard Posts: 1,212 Joined: 2004/03/02	2004/03/09, 11:13 AM at 5'9" my bi's are 13 inches, i know its not that big but they are defined and it gives the illusion.
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/18, 10:34 PM I am 6', 168lbs, 17 years old and would like to know approximately what a good bicep size would be for me. Right now, they are just under 14in and I would really like to know what a good size would be. Not average though. Any help would be appreciated.
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/01/19, 12:29 AM i dunno man........sounds liek to me you just want a ego boost or somthing..........train well and train everything and i promise they'll get bigger.......but please PLEASE train your whole body not just bi's and chest.......very few realize that ur body well only allow u to get so " outta porportion" and it won't grow. (ex).if u bench press 400lbs and can only squate 225......that means ur legs are very underdevoloped and ur upper body is huge....and ur bench won't get much higher...train everything so u look portionate -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2004/01/19, 01:30 AM DOES IT REALLY FREAKIN MATTER? Who knows?! Not u andrew -------------- May the lift be with you.
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/19, 02:01 AM well andrew thats kinda the thing. I can kick hard as a friggin mule but cant punch for crap. I can only bench 160 3 times, but i can leg lift 200 10 times easily.
mmaibohm Posts: 1,621 Joined: 2003/09/30	2004/01/19, 02:03 AM Jesusfrk1 are you a kick boxer or soemthing? or a martial artist. I have seen guys with arms the size of my pinkys lay soem one out it's a matter of focus. concentrate jesus san. -------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/19, 02:06 AM BTW how could I want an ego booster when my arms are puny?I need an ego boost.And I want to be stronger for me so I can do things I want, and to be able to protect myself without actually using the muscles.
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/19, 02:08 AM I used to study Martial Arts, yes. But I'm not the violent type, so I just want some "Visual Credibility" that sez "U mess with me u gonna be eating dirt", but w/o actually having to make them.
mmaibohm Posts: 1,621 Joined: 2003/09/30	2004/01/19, 02:26 AM ahh your ripe age of 17 shows through. Not to sound like a shmuck but you are into it for the wrong reasons. Why do you want to intimidate people so bad? I stand 6'4 and weigh in at 377 and it bothers me that I intimidate people. Well good luck to you! -------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
mmaibohm Posts: 1,621 Joined: 2003/09/30	2004/01/19, 02:29 AM Ahh I forgot I study ishin ryu. I have found the teaching to be true the best path to peace is to avoid the situations where you would have to defend. other wise dont go looking for trouble. Also ego will always be a down fall.
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/19, 03:04 AM I dont wanna intimidate anybody.I just dont want to have to fight. And once again, its not for ego, its what I want. I feel uncomfortable as little as I am.I mean if I flex the 6pack I can see my entire ribcage. I'm truly too skinny. I wanna put on about 20-25lbs of muscle. By the way, has anyone tried peanut butter to gain weight? Ive been told this works but from only one person that actually did it. Anyone else?
mmaibohm Posts: 1,621 Joined: 2003/09/30	2004/01/19, 03:26 AM Im not shure if peanut butter will make you gain weight but it's high in protein vitamin e and lineoleic acid. You could try a good weight gainer formula to help with that. The old joke in school was mcdonalds cheese burgers and milkshakes. -------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/19, 10:04 AM so PB is something to keep my strength, more than a weight gainer. thanks.
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/01/19, 11:27 AM hey i have seen some sqrawyny guys take down some big guys, strength is not everthing, i took karate and junk and the smaller guys did just as well as bigger guys, when u fight some one .....u gonna curl them? no lol................what did i say jdelts that was so worng?? -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/19, 11:55 AM I took karate as well. It was great for me, until i injured my knees. I wish I was still in it now though. I really regret quitting just because of that. You're right andrew about the strength, I realize that but still, i mean, is 14 inches above average for my size or is it scrawny or average or what??
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2004/01/19, 11:56 AM Average size of a male (american) are is 13-14 inches. So you are almost above average!!! -------------- LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL!
ATIGER Posts: 992 Joined: 2003/02/26	2004/01/19, 12:09 PM Are you still talking about biceps, Mutt?
Logger Posts: 126 Joined: 2002/05/02	2004/01/19, 12:23 PM i am on a PB diet. it will help you gain muscle mass, not just general weight/fat. PB is high in protein and that's where you should b getting your weight from(muscle mass) if you want to look good. but you have to eat a lot of it for that to happen. i go through almost 2 2lbs jars of PB a week, that just keeps me at a little above average size. -------------- free your mind -Logger
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2004/01/19, 12:33 PM Yes sorry. In order to add size to your arms you need a few things. One is eating enough food. Two is training right, stay with the basics, barbell curls, hammer curls, dumbbell curls and preacher dumbbell curls. Third is resting. Fourth is time, adding inches is not a quick thing. Fifth is adding squats, deadlifts, bentrows, and chins to you workouts. I grow about 1/2 inch a year on my arms. The differenc between me and others is that I do those other exercises all the time, and most do not. -------------- LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL!
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2004/01/19, 02:10 PM I don't care what your reason is Jesusfrk...you've come to the right place to get your ego, I mean biceps, bigger. -------------- May the lift be with you.
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/01/19, 02:47 PM ============ Quoting from jdelts: DOES IT REALLY FREAKIN MATTER? Who knows?! Not u andrew what i say jdelts that was so bad? ============= -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2004/01/19, 09:25 PM Oh NO NO NO....I meant that I was not directing that comment at you....LOL My bad, I can see how you could misinterperate that...oops. -------------- May the lift be with you.
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/22, 11:48 AM jdelts- I dont think there is anything wrong with wanting biceps bigger than 14. How big are YOUR biceps?? If you realized where I am coming from then you would understand. I was always the scrawny kid, never lifted weights in school, always got picked one, alwsy got pushed around by my older brother. Until I started working at a grocery store, my arms were probably only about 11 but they were like Jello. Now they are pretty hord but I just want them bigger. That's all.
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2004/01/22, 11:54 AM Jesusfrk, if you really think about it, when you measure your arms did you know that 2/3 of that size is really your triceps and not biceps? Increase your tricep size and your arm measurements go up even bigger! -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
	2004/01/22, 11:58 AM jesusfrk1, do your full body workouts like Mutt says. Eat and rest like everybody says. Develop mental toughness. Being tough, sensitive, sensual and strong is 99% mental. Its mostly a head thing. Be tough enough to be patient and it will come. -------------- Living well is the best revenge. Charlie
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/22, 11:55 PM rpacheco- Thank you for reminding me. What is a good excercise for triceps? Mine are a little gooey.
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/23, 12:32 AM rpacheco- Thank you for reminding me. What is a good excercise for triceps? Mine are a little gooey.
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/23, 12:32 AM rpacheco- Thank you for reminding me. What is a good excercise for triceps? Mine are a little gooey.
mmaibohm Posts: 1,621 Joined: 2003/09/30	2004/01/23, 12:46 AM jesusfrk1 I know what it was like to be pushed around and picked on because I was the fat kid!!! you normal thin people picked on. Even in school at 6'4 320lbs i was pushed around. size means nothing it's attitude. Some of the toughest kick rear end guys I know are short and wirey. As for tri's do push downs, dips, skull crushers and so on -------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/01/24, 05:25 PM i do too i know what its liek iw as the fat kid to i was around 5 10 and 300 lbs at one time, so i knwo what its like,.....there sno set bicep standard,,,,,,,i mean come on lee priest is 5'4 and has a 22in bicep! thats freaking huge...yess he'son every prp horoman avaiable but still theres no set graph or leaner curve to show this. so h is some advice..........TRAIN train everything, eat, rest, and TRAIN EVERYTHING SOME MORE.........if u want somthing bad enough then go get it! but the thing abotu working out is time, its takes time for muscles to grow ur not gonna have a 20 in bicep in 3 weeks its taken me 2 good solid years to get my arms where they r and i'm quite happy........i need one more inch to go to get my goal, its not caus eof my arms no one messes with with, its cause i keep to myself i don't bother no one, i don't let my ego start shit......so IF U TRAIN IT.......IT WILL GROW! -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
goldengloves Posts: 690 Joined: 2003/09/19	2004/01/24, 05:35 PM Great post couldnt have worded it better. (I was once the fat kid 5'4 200 pounds but i've grown and shedded the weight that held me down) ============ Quoting from bigandrew: i do too i know what its liek iw as the fat kid to i was around 5 10 and 300 lbs at one time, so i knwo what its like,.....there sno set bicep standard,,,,,,,i mean come on lee priest is 5'4 and has a 22in bicep! thats freaking huge...yess he'son every prp horoman avaiable but still theres no set graph or leaner curve to show this. so h is some advice..........TRAIN train everything, eat, rest, and TRAIN EVERYTHING SOME MORE.........if u want somthing bad enough then go get it! but the thing abotu working out is time, its takes time for muscles to grow ur not gonna have a 20 in bicep in 3 weeks its taken me 2 good solid years to get my arms where they r and i'm quite happy........i need one more inch to go to get my goal, its not caus eof my arms no one messes with with, its cause i keep to myself i don't bother no one, i don't let my ego start shit......so IF U TRAIN IT.......IT WILL GROW! =============
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2004/01/24, 09:29 PM Mmailbohm....Its funny how you associate normal with thin...its sad that you viewed other people this way just because you were overweight. It wasn't fair to you and it wasn't your fault. I pity bullies and what they stand for. Look at the bright side, its because of people's own insecurities that make them offensive/bullies. They find the societal "easy target" and get there satisfaction by emptying out their anxieties on them. the US is the most overweight country in the world yet it is a stigma in this country that overweight people are mentally and physically inferior...what a hypocritical country. Sorry, just venting. F'm All mmailbohm!!! ============ Quoting from mmaibohm: jesusfrk1 I know what it was like to be pushed around and picked on because I was the fat kid!!! you normal thin people picked on. Even in school at 6'4 320lbs i was pushed around. size means nothing it's attitude. Some of the toughest kick rear end guys I know are short and wirey. As for tri's do push downs, dips, skull crushers and so on ============= -------------- May the lift be with you.
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/25, 02:05 PM I wasn't fat and I didn't pick on fat people. Most of the fat people picked on me for being so skinny. I was just a runt, and I feel like I still am. And, yes, jdelts, it does seem that way. But not just for fat people. People like myself , who are puny, are also thought of as inferior because they are not physically strong. Both ends of the spectrum had to be emotionally and metally strong in oreder to take crap from the jerks, bullies, conceited pricks, etc.
dhurt55 Posts: 93 Joined: 2004/01/02	2004/01/25, 02:16 PM That is the bad thing about highschool...people are harsh...even if you are slightly different or gifted in any way-they jump at any chance to offend or joke you....no matter what it's for! It's sad that we live in such an advanced society and this behavior is still just as commonplace as someone being courteous to another individual. Sorry this type of stuff makes me angry..haha. -------------- "Without Pains, there come no Gains" -Benjamin Franklin
goldengloves Posts: 690 Joined: 2003/09/19	2004/01/25, 02:27 PM I've been in both sides of the fence actually. During my jr. high and 2 years into high school I was "THE FAT KID" Kids use to put spoons under my chest and bend them quickly to act as if my chest bent them rude bastards. It wasnt nice then I lost all my weight went from around 200 to 115 then I was the short scrawny kid who people picked on it was a lose/lose situation for me but now im at 155 and feel good (look good to) But im still kind of the little guy. like dhurt said it sucks people are still like this but this is one of those things one can overcome only mentally because it is going to be everywhere.
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/01/27, 06:49 PM Would high protein, low carb bars help any in gaining weight and muscle?? I just got some and want to know if they will.
pimple Posts: 490 Joined: 2003/07/08	2004/02/10, 08:29 PM you need a lot of carbs if you want big motha muscles... if you go to the gym with an empty stomach, your body will burn the muscles you already have for fuel, making your trip to the gym a complete waste of time... so go high in protein and carbs... work hard at the gym adn you should be seeing your arms grow bigger than your thighs in no time... kind of... =P
ioioio Posts: 302 Joined: 2004/01/29	2004/02/12, 07:32 AM i am 13 and my arms are like 11 inch when i flex them, is that good for my age or is it average?????
goldengloves Posts: 690 Joined: 2003/09/19	2004/02/12, 10:26 AM ioioio-Im assuming you are a lightweight. Yes your arm size is ok at your age im sure as you hit 15 and beyond they will continue to grow but you got to train them if you want to get them big and train them properly along with training the rest of your body. My arms are only 13" not big but average size they look good though.
ioioio Posts: 302 Joined: 2004/01/29	2004/02/13, 12:19 PM thx for the advice, yeah your arms do look good, are you sure they are only 13?????
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/02/13, 02:27 PM more "cut" you are the better they look, and the preception is they look bigger, plus he's kinda tan too -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/03/04, 01:48 PM well thanks for all the help guys. ive gained like 2 pounds and im working on 15 or 20 so i can actually have bigger arms. if anyone has any more ideas to help then please...LOL help me. I have very high metabolism so its hard for me to gain weight but i can do it but i just need to know if there is a way to "overcome" that and gain more muscle.
fsdsk Posts: 959 Joined: 2003/11/30	2004/03/05, 10:58 AM I am 6'4" with 15.5" inch Bi's, but for my size I think they are pretty normal. If you are 6' I would not think 17" is unreasonable if you really work at it.
clt Posts: 107 Joined: 2004/02/13	2004/03/05, 11:29 AM you are right, i am six feet and my arms are 17inches, i am deployed right now but we are able to work out i have lost a few pounds from sweating but you are all right, so keep working at it and the will grow. a year ago i was only 155lbs, and now i am 205 with 9% body fat if you want i will post the military training split on the boards just let me know---clt
Jesusfrk1 Posts: 29 Joined: 2004/01/18	2004/03/08, 12:33 PM I think 17's would be a little bit large considering my physical bone structure. I am looking for 15 to 16 though. I think thats a fairly reasonable goal. they are about 13.5 now but they are just so plain. I mean i know there are guys smaller and all but I want to look better. Ive had ppl tell me that if I put on a little more muscle and weight that i would and I feel that way also. Im actually pretty solid all over but its just not enough. Ive been trying for awhile now but I know that if I keep on keeping on Ill get what i want..
goodoldtex Posts: 564 Joined: 2004/01/25	2004/03/08, 02:06 PM Yo clt, you mind posting that? I thought about joining the military, but i gotta get through school first. But then again i hate running...d@mn. I think its just best that i stick to being a regular joe and just try to get a little bigger and more cut first.
clt Posts: 107 Joined: 2004/02/13	2004/03/09, 12:54 PM the training spilt is as follows: monday--bi-tri-forearms incline curls 4x6-10 barbell curls 4x6-10 preacher curls 2x12-15 tripress down 4x6-10 behinde head extension 4x6-10 dips regular or with wieght 2x12-15 wrist curls 4x15 reverse wrist curls 4x15
clt Posts: 107 Joined: 2004/02/13	2004/03/09, 12:58 PM tuesdays- chest- back bench dumbell press 4x10 incline dumbell press 4x10 decline dimbell press 4x10 flys------------2x12-15 pulldowns 3x10 pullovers 3x10 dead lifts 3x4-6
clt Posts: 107 Joined: 2004/02/13	2004/03/09, 01:00 PM wendsdays and thursdays 45 minutes of cardio on treadmill also do 10 windsprints on theses days.
clt Posts: 107 Joined: 2004/02/13	2004/03/09, 01:04 PM friday -- shoulders and legs over head dumbell press 4x6-10 lat raises 4x6-10 front raises 4x6-10 seated lat raise 4x6-10 squats 4x6-10 leg extesion 4x6-10 calve raises 4x15 leg curls 3x10 saturday-----45 minutes of cardio and that is all folks... sunday OFF

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