Group: Health Supplements

Created: 2012/01/01, Members: 101, Messages: 16612

Supplements can be a great aid with your health and fitness goals. Combined with the proper exercise and nutritional plan they can be quite effective.

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17-HD

GOWAR
GOWAR
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2007/08/03, 12:14 AM
I was just wondering if anyone knew what this was???/

I heard that it was like ANDRO????
george
george
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2007/08/03, 01:21 PM
No experience personally, but have heard mixed reviews.

Keep in mind that these supplement will only aid your already sound fitness and diet plan, they won't make any dramatic changes.



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brentfro
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2007/08/08, 03:24 PM
My workout partner just finished phase 1 of his workout plan given to him by a professional trainer who competes in competition. And he stacked 17HD with Mass Tabs and he experienced huge growth and muscle gains. Now granted, he lifted hard and had a healthy diet and rested well as is needed, but he said it helped him a lot. I'm starting this workout now myself and am giving 17HD and the mass tabs a try so after my phase I'll try to give u some feedback on my personal experiences. After just 3 days of taking them i must say I have incredible energy and seems like more of a pump during my workouts.
brentfro
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2007/09/13, 06:59 PM
I have one more day on my stack of 17-HD and Mass Tabs, and i must say I had amazing results. My numbers really increased greatly. But of course I made sure to do everything else correct as well. I had a good workout plan my lifting partner let me do with him, I followed a decent diet as best as I could and never shorted myself on rest. Most of my lifts consisted of 4x8 with slow 4 count reps starting heavy and dropping weight for the sets accordingly. We increased by quarters or by 45 lb plates to make our body adjust. On Bench my first week my heavy set was 135 lbs, next week is the 6th week on stack and my heavy set is 225 lbs. Squats began in week one at 185 lbs on my heavy set, just tuesday I completed 3x8 with 315 and finished my 4th set with 275. I credit hardwork and diet greatly to my success, but no doubt 17HD helped me get there. I'm very pleased with the results.
immovablestone
immovablestone
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2007/09/14, 08:28 AM
After looking up the ingredients myself and thinking "this can't be right" I searched a forum and found this article, like most suppliments other than protein and caffeine this stuff is junk:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=932026



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This is SPARTA!!!
immovablestone
immovablestone
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2007/09/14, 08:29 AM
Oops, thats "supplements" not "suppliments".


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Quoting from immovablestone:

After looking up the ingredients myself and thinking "this can't be right" I searched a forum and found this article, like most suppliments other than protein and caffeine this stuff is junk:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=932026




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bigandrew
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2007/09/30, 01:05 PM
good way to get kicked outta football...

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GOWAR
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2007/10/09, 03:31 AM
I was just interested about the product, I always try and find out everything I can about a product before I buy it, I ended up not buying it.
bigandrew
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2007/10/09, 06:00 PM
you shouldn't even be thinking it ...since you play div I.....good way to NEVER play again.

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\"The eight laws of learning are explanation, demonstration, imitation, repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition, and repetition\"

You have to learn to follow, before you can lead.
GOWAR
GOWAR
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2007/10/13, 11:27 PM
well, Everyone always thinks of ways to get better, and to have an edge, I know for one that I never want to take steroids.

adamT80
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2007/12/31, 04:46 PM
be careful taking test boosters like andro and 17-hd, I know a lot of people that started out that way and now shoot test into their butts. If you wanna boost your body's test production I would reccomend taking a ZMA supplement. Zinc Manganese and Magnesium all aid the body in test production, and since most people are deficient in these minerals taking them as a supplement may increase ur test production as much as 50% dependning on your level of defeciency. I take tribulus as well i know its not been shown in clinical studies to do much but i like the way it makes me feel and has def inc my libido. anyway gl :)