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2006/12/24, 04:35 AM
Hello, all.
I'm turning 26 and I want to push myself for one month to see the maximum amount of lean muscle I can pack on. I've read that it can be anywhere from 2-10 pounds, and I'm not really sure what to expect, though I don't have genetics blessed for bodybuilding, so I'm guessing 10 is less likely.
Regardless, I was hoping you could offer a bit of a guideline to follow, as I want to be sure to work out like a madman, as to maximize my gains, yet not overtrain. I want to eat a clean diet, yet with enough appropriate calories to sustain muscle building. I don't want to blow money on unnecessary supplements, yet I am open to anything that will lend itself to maximal potential.
I would love to really have something so show for my hard work by the end of January, as it's an experiment Ive always wondered about: That being to go full throttle, above and beyond for a month to see where it got me.
Any recommendations would be helpful.
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2006/12/24, 12:37 PM
I am wondering where you heard you can magically put on 2-10 lbs. of muscle in a month with some super workout.
Thinking logically, if this were a fact, wouldn't we all be doing it all the time?
Are you not working out with any intensity now?
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\"If it ain\'t broke, you aren\'t trying.\"
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2006/12/24, 09:35 PM
Well, I think my workout is OK on intensity. I work out at home often and thus don't have spotters, so that kind of limits me sometimes (I'd love to know a way to counter that problem), but I usually make up for it, or at least try to, by adding an extra set. The difference is, i guess, that I ususally train to maintain. Now I'm looking to train to gain.
As for the 2-10, I know genetics has a role in it, but certainly we must be able to gain in that range somehow... at least unless we have reached some sort of genetic max. If we could all do it, i don't know that we all would because exercise takes discipline and time not all can muster or afford. If we could all have a six pack would we? Obviously not, because we all have the ability, but for different reasons, many of us don't. The 2-10 seems to encompass the range i have seen quoted, 10 being the highest, 2 being the lowest, as the rate of monthly muscle gain. I have never gone above and beyond on a program, and i was wondering, if I did, what I could accomplish. That's my experiment. But, i wanna do it right.
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2006/12/24, 10:35 PM
What I meant is all of us who do this stuff with consistency...if we could gain theoretically even 2 lbs. per month, that would be 24 lbs. per year. 2 years, 48 lbs., etc. We could all be heavyweights, yet not many of us are.
Think 10 lbs in a month, and it gets even more far out.
Your options are to work out with max intensity, eat well, and rest well. This is really all we can do without 'helpers'.
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2006/12/24, 10:40 PM
Yup took me 5 months to get 15 to 16 pounds and it didn't really make a huge notice until after the 4th month, thats when everyone in the gym was telling me I had made some real nice gains.
This is from start point of begining a heavy lifting program anything I did before that did nothing for me!
Although I got that dosen't mean it will happen again in 5 more months, maybe if I'm lucky I'll put on 3 to 5 more pounds.
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2006/12/25, 04:52 PM
Well, 15 punds in 5 months would be equivalent to 3 pounds a month. Granted, the way you put it, BB1, I guess 10 pounds is absurd. But 2 pounds a month doesn't seem all that crazy to me. If you are busting your ass for a year, I would expect some good gains in size. 2 pounds really doesn't seem like all that much to gain in a month.
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2006/12/25, 05:08 PM
It doesnt seem like it but it's very difficult...
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2006/12/25, 06:02 PM
You didn't hear me!
I said it didn't come on until the after the 4th month which means nothing for over 3 months and then all of a sudden it happened!
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2006/12/25, 08:40 PM
more quickly you try to add it...more of it will be fat....
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Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack!
People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
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2006/12/25, 10:15 PM
Frosh...you seem to be reading the words, but not the posts. Ask enough and you will find someone who will tell you what you want to hear...but in the end, you will find reality is what it is.
The muscle whene you first start 'tears' and damages very easily. Strength and muscle gains are quick if diet is adequate as well as rest. After one is 'well trained', it is in fact difficult at best to do anything to the muscle anymore. Your body learns to 'store' for lack of a better term proteins, so even more protein intake means nothing but more calories.
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\"If it ain\'t broke, you aren\'t trying.\"
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2006/12/27, 03:57 PM
SF- I apologize. I just never heard of muscle gains just kicking in all of a sudden and gaining 15 pounds like that because I would imagine, unless your diet was inconsistent, you would have gained weight prior to month 3. My assumption, and thus my mistake.
BB1- I understand completely. I know beginners pack on muscle earlier and faster than those with experience. What I didn't know was that it is that difficult to add muscle after that.
The problem is exactly what you stated: ask enough and you will find someone who will tell you what you want to hear. I am not looking for what I want to hear, what I am looking for is a finite truth, and that is what is near impossible to find. Mainly because there are a million claims out there, and it is another job searching for the reality behind the fasades.
So, then. What exactly is the approach for shocking the muscle into continued growth? Or is it a losing battle?
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2006/12/27, 04:21 PM
All that bb1fit was trying to say is that gaining muscle is much harder than you think. It is going to take longer than a month to make significant gains, but the following is your best chance for success: intense workout plan, proper diet, and rest. After about 6-8 weeks, switching your exercises is beneficial because it shocks your muscles. Your muscles tend to adapt to the exercises they're doing, so this should be done to continue your progress.
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2006/12/27, 11:06 PM
""So, then. What exactly is the approach for shocking the muscle into continued growth? Or is it a losing battle?""
It is not a losing battle, just keep changing up your routines and challenging your body (muscles).
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A little discipline at the table and at the gym might help reduce that belly!
Ivan
Montreal Canada (City of Festivals)
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