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2006/10/14, 09:42 AM
I know this sounds strange but my "6" pack isn't visible but 4 abdominal muscles are... it's strange i've seen this before on many body builders any idea what it's about? Ronnie Coleman in many of his pictures doesn't seem to have a "6" pack
Why? any ways I can bring out the 6?
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2006/10/14, 09:52 AM
Oh and btw my friend who is 14 and competes in many sports would also like to know why his abdominal muscles are deformed in a weird shape? they're not even inline with eachother... any ideas why or if there is a way to bring them back to the shape they're suppose to be?
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2006/10/14, 11:44 AM
Your friend's ab muscles are probably fine, many folks have that what they term odd offset status look to their abs. This is fine and normal.
In your case, the lower abs are probably blurred. This is most probably due to a layer of fat still there. Tough place on a man to lose in that area.
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2006/10/14, 01:29 PM
Thanks for the reply bb1
My friend told me it's not so much that his abs are deformed but that some of the muscles on one side are bigger then the others specifically his left there must be some way to work only one side without working the other?
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2006/10/14, 01:59 PM
No, there really is not...it is intensely hard to even isolate the lower from upper. In fact, though there is exercises which 'emphasize' one more than the other, it is really impossible to isolate them. One study shows that that certain exercises are more effective for the lower abs than others.
Some interesting stuff from Christian Finn follows...
Depending on who you read, there are different views, some say you can. But real life suggests this is not the case
Scientists from the University of Nebraska Medical Center, for example, used electromyography (known simply as EMG) to measure abdominal muscle activity during various exercises.
• Of the exercises tested, the reverse curl led to the greatest amount of activity in the lower abdominals.
• The trunk curl, reverse curl, twist curl, and v-sit all resulted in similar amounts of upper abdominal activity.
This study suggests that you can put greater emphasis on the upper or lower abdominals depending on the exercise you do. But it certainly doesn't show that you can work the lower and upper rectus abdominis separately.
More interesting still, Professor Stuart McGill, an expert in spine function at the University of Waterloo in Canada, points out that a distinct upper and lower rectus abdominis does not exist in most people .
"There’s a muscle called pyramidalius, which is a lower muscle that overlays the bottom beads of rectus, but only in some people - it's an optional muscle," says McGill.
In other words, those using EMG who claim there is an upper and lower rectus abdominis might simply be monitoring pyramidalius.
Personally, I don't think it's necessary to make any special attempt to "isolate" the lower abs.
I also believe that all the talk about the "upper" and "lower" abs ignores what is probably the most important part of getting your abs to show. Diet.
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Maximus from Gladiator....Strength and Honor!
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2006/10/14, 02:23 PM
pleasure talking to you bb1 i figure you would hear this a lot but your in great shape for your age! or great shape regardless thanks for chat
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