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Strength without muscle?

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wrestler125
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2006/02/19, 08:43 PM
About a second. Controlled, not timed. And for the record, the eccentric portion is the lowering motion, but you have the right idea.
Pausing will eliminate the stretch shortening cycle. For some exercises this is desirable, but when training for relative strength, it should generally be avoided.

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Rob-Bob
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2006/02/28, 09:30 AM
Does muscle fatigue necessairly indicate muscle tear?
When I'm done on the cardio bike my legs usually feel weak and fatigued for awhile.
As far as I know muscle soreness is what indicates tear but I'm wondering if fatigue could mean the same.
wrestler125
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2006/02/28, 01:04 PM
The weakness from cardio is a result of the depletion of glycogen stores within a muscle.

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2008/03/31, 10:34 PM
Okay, I just found this thread, and it is fascinating. I'm sorry to bump it back up, but I learned a ton reading all these posts. Wrestler, do you advocate similar training programs for women looking to increase functional strength? I don't care about muscle size (I'll never get into bodybuilding) but I care a great deal about strength. Would you advocate that I (a novice) to train using the 80%(1RM) 4-6 Reps, 2-3 working sets, 3-5minute rest between? I have read that women recover faster than men. Would that be true for this type of training? Again, sorry for bumping up a two year old thread, but it's interesting stuff.

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wrestler125
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2008/04/03, 05:12 PM
Most women won't have the genetics or hormone levels to get big on their own without really, really working at it, and "supplementing".

For women, all the rep ranges get shifted up since they are less efficient neurally. Strength would be 3-8, etc, depending on training levels.

Also, women recover faster than men both in between workouts as well as in between sets, so the rest periods are shorter and women will generally respond better to a higher frequency training routine.

Don't worry about bumping the old thread, there is still good information in this thread (though some of my views have changed in the past 3 years as I've become more experianced).

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