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Exercise other than wide grip chin

alantroy Posts: 2 Joined: 2005/12/09	2005/12/14, 03:38 PM I want to replace the wide grip chin front pull ups with another exercis, Is there another exerise I can do that give the same results. I am to heavy or not strong enough to pull myself up. Please let me know....
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/12/14, 06:09 PM Medium grip chin/pull up. Doing a wide grip will not necessarily give you wide lats. Try doing negative chin ups until you can build your strength for chin ups. Work up to 30 second negatives, and then start practicing isometric holds, and you will be doing chins like a pro before you know it. Trust me, its worth the effort to learn. There is no other upper body exercise like the weighted chin. -------------- Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run. ============ Quoting from 7707mutt: The squat cage is holy ground. ============
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/12/14, 06:11 PM I just realized that that last sentence could be taken the wrong way. What I meant was there is no other upper body exercise as effective at building strength and hypertrophy as the chin -------------- Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run. ============ Quoting from 7707mutt: The squat cage is holy ground. ============
bropie Posts: 1,084 Joined: 2004/12/04	2005/12/14, 06:14 PM you could also build up lat strength using the lat pulldown. same mechanism, but you can build up resistance if you can't quite do bodyweight yet. and i emphasize the yet. i prefer chins personally by a long shot.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/12/14, 07:07 PM Not exactly the same mechanism. Yes, works some of the same muscles, but not as much, and its a closed chain exercise on a machine. Yes, it will build up strength, but not as effectively as negative chin ups. -------------- Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run. ============ Quoting from 7707mutt: The squat cage is holy ground. ============
mrdeadly99 Posts: 124 Joined: 2005/09/21	2005/12/15, 12:14 AM if you cant do your body weight, would it be more benificial to do lat pulldowns or some kind of assisted chins where you kneel on a pad that assists you up?
Grunt_82 Posts: 71 Joined: 2004/03/22	2005/12/15, 10:23 AM I can attest for those negatives. Thanx wrestler for that suggestion in my post about chins. I can barely lift my arms today because of them. They work lol. :big_smile:
ravon Posts: 19 Joined: 2005/12/09	2005/12/15, 11:26 AM can someone explain to me about the medium-grips &/or negative grips. In my workout for today i'm supposed to do the wide grip chins.....um, but I don't think i'm quite ready for that.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/12/15, 12:11 PM ============ Quoting from Grunt_82: I can attest for those negatives. Thanx wrestler for that suggestion in my post about chins. I can barely lift my arms today because of them. They work lol. :big_smile: ============= Any time, glad my advice went over well. Medium grip is just holding at shoulder width. A negative chin up is done by bringing your body over the bar with assistance (chair, jumping, etc) and then SLOWLY lowering yourself, resisting the urge to just fall as long as you can, and lowering as slowly as possible. -------------- Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run. ============ Quoting from 7707mutt: The squat cage is holy ground. ============
ravon Posts: 19 Joined: 2005/12/09	2005/12/15, 01:48 PM Oh ok. I think i will start with the neg chin-ups then progress. But we'll see.--thanks