Group: General Fitness & Exercise

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i can leg press 450

homegym1
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2005/08/12, 03:53 PM
i can leg press 450 and i only weight 157 8th grade is that good
homegym1
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2005/08/12, 03:59 PM
any one there
fsdsk
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2005/08/12, 04:32 PM
you need to give more than 6 min for someone to answer. how many reps at 450?
homegym1
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2005/08/12, 04:50 PM
1 maybe 2
bropie
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2005/08/12, 05:18 PM
congratulations.. how far do you go down? all the way to your chest?
homegym1
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2005/08/12, 05:28 PM
2 inches away
Carivan
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2005/08/12, 05:59 PM
Keep up the hard work and you will get to 4 reps. Be careful.

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Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet!
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Carivan
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2005/08/12, 06:00 PM
Keep up the hard work and you will get to 4 reps. Be careful.

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Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet!
Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press.

Ivan

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bigandrew
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2005/08/12, 06:05 PM
how much ya squat..?

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Friends don't let friends squat high...
homegym1
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2005/08/12, 07:13 PM
i dont squat much.....bad form but about 220
wrestler125
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2005/08/12, 07:35 PM
then drop the weight to 135 and learn proper form. Best advice anyone ever gave me.
Bighoss147
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2005/08/13, 12:34 AM
You'll build much more powerful legs with squats, I switched over about 2 and a half months ago and it's made a huge difference. No other excersize causes me to sweat to the pound where I'm half blinded from all the perspiration covering my face.Leg Press use to be enough but eventually I got really tired of loading all those 45lb plates on and off.
macattack
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2005/08/13, 03:55 PM
I use a smith machine for sqauting. Any views on this. Strength has been increasing well. Form is stabilised as well.
wrestler125
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2005/08/13, 06:30 PM
yes. Many views. Most of the educated views are negative.


"form is stabilised": this is not a good thing.
Using freeweights, you are forced to stabilize the weight yourself. This forces you to use a greater amount of muscle, which leads to better gains, as well as building up stabilizer muscles. It is also a more effective way to train the CNS (central nervous system).

Also, doing smith machine squats force you to lean back into the machine, thus neglecting posterior chain development. For athletes, the posterior chain is where you get all your explosive power from. For powerlifters, its what moves a heavy pull or squat.
also, by forcing your body into an unnatural movement pattern, the smith machine can cause damage to tendons, as well as muscle inbalances, both of which lead to injuries.

Stick with free weights. I am sure someone out there will disagree with everything I have said in this post, and if you guys need me to cite sources to prove anything I said, then just ask and I will try to dig them up.
Let the debate begin.

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The best feeling in the world is the feeling you get after a tough set of squats after you step back from the power rack and throw up all over the floor.
bigandrew
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2005/08/13, 07:27 PM
In men fitness or somthing this month...showed only a 5% increse of squating in a smith machine.....and a loss benching in a smith.


Depending on your goals.....bodybuilders use smiths alot....i've heard squats....can make the stomach bigger or somthing.......but my personal opinion.....free weights are the way to go.

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wrestler125
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2005/08/13, 07:44 PM
only if you lift powerlifting style. Powerlifters expand the ribcage and stick the stomach out to get more power out of the hole. Cant see how squatting regular would cause you to get a larger stomach.

5% and a loss over what kinda time period?

oh, and one last thing andrew. Your new signature...
Amen.

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The best feeling in the world is the feeling you get after a tough set of squats after you step back from the power rack and throw up all over the floor.
bigandrew
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2005/08/13, 07:48 PM
wasn't over a long time....just one rep max......like say you max 200 on bench......go to a smith....and you may max 190......somthing like that.

Thats what I was refering to wrestler..."powerlifting style"....I personally don't care......my trunk is very very strong....might not look good but it pretty strong lol

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Friends don't let friends squat high...
homegym1
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2005/08/13, 07:54 PM
i would squat but i dont want to hurt my back for baseball. I can throw 70+
wrestler125
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2005/08/13, 08:16 PM
squats dont hurt your back. bad form while squatting and the smith machine hurt people's back. that is a myth propogated by people that have never actually weight trained a day in their life and yet proclaim to be "experts". in the elite fitness articles, they are known as weightlifting "yodas", people that can only lift with their minds.

Squats devolop a strong back and good core power, something very important to pitching. Not to mention that you will become faster because you get all your power in a sprint from you posterior chain. the two best exercises for the posterior chain: squat and deadlift.

Don't let anyone tell you squatting will injure you. I have been lifting for 8 years, yes powerlifting style, lifting both squats and opponents in wrestling and brazilian jui jitsu, and now mixed martial arts. never got hurt lifting.
black_angus1
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2006/03/27, 11:08 PM
no good workout should ever hurt any part of your body. u got 2 no your limitations and your expectations before u do anything. if u start to feel a sharp pain, then stop, take a rest, and either start again or stop for the day. if u feel a dull pain, go for it. and make sure to stretch and warmup before u do anything. well w/e im out.

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Victory belongs to the most persevering. -Napolean Bonaparte
bigandrew
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2006/03/28, 12:27 PM
NOT doing squats will get you hurt quicker....than doing them.


Squats strengthen everything! over 200 muscles are used when squatting.It strengthens acl, mcl, and other ligaments which are prone to "blowing out" in running sports.


Your just looking for as excuse NOT to do them...

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Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack!

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bigandrew
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2006/03/28, 12:27 PM
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