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2004/10/24, 02:50 PM
Well, this is my last stand. I'm just so f*cking pissed because my friends always give me sh** how I'm a "muscle head" but have "no six pack" like all of THEIR ANOREXIC asses. This was especially apparent at a party I went to last night and I'm now fully determined. I have very little fat on my stomach, but JUST ENOUGH to cover my abs. It's funny, if I flex my abs and "pull up a little" I can see my abs, so I know that my goal won't be too hard to reach but here is what I'm going to do.
Today I woke up and did 25 minutes of HIIT. about 220 calories burned total in about 20 minutes. Before this I ate one egg white and 10 minutes afterwards I consumed a 24g protein shake (no fat, 1g carb, 100 something calories in total). Here are my questions:
1. When trying to lose fat like this, I was wondering what the opinion was on fruit. Blueberries and apples are all very high in natural sugar carbs so I'm unsure and very confused on whether or not to eat fruits.
2. Is a single eggwhite enough to eat before HIIT early in the morning? (without eating breakfast... I can't run really well when I just ate something, and my goal is too burn as much fat as possible while saving muscle).
3. I'm probably going to be lifting on most of these days with my brother, as we already lift 3-4 times a week, but I've been hearing that cardio in AM and then weights in PM is OK if you "replenish" your glycogen stores. How do I do this?
4. Whats a "substantial" lunch. I can never figure this out. Usually I have a turkey sandwhich on wheat bread with lettuce tomato and some cheese, with a water bottle and maybe an apple (although not recently because of braces, but tomorrow I get my braces off :)). Is this a suitable lunch, or am I missing something? It seems to work fine for days that I'm going to lift because my bench has been gaining alot over the past few months (but I havent really been trying to lose weight, just get muscle) and thats what I've been eating for lunch and I can now get 12 reps at 135 :).
5. Whats a good breakfast... I'm always pressed for time when I wake up, I usually just eat a bowl of Cheerios with a cup or two of Non-fat milk.
Thanks for all help that can be offered...
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2004/10/24, 06:20 PM
Wow, you are one of the most anal retentive exercisers i've ever met. LOL not a bad thing though.
Here's a great reference to use to find out what foods you should eat for your metabolic type: Metabolic Typing Diet by William Wollcott. This will give you a BASIC test to find out how you metabolize food and guide you in the right direction towards which foods work better than others. One thing you'll find out in there is that fat is not as bad as mass media has made it out to be (if it's in the correct proportions and is from organic sources).
Another point to be made here is how milk is made, since you mentioned you drink it.There are plenty of good references to find this out, but Mercola.com is the best out of all of them. Go there and simply type "milk" in the search engine and you'll find out that what seems like a healthy food, is no more than sugar water.
Watch yourself on those protein shakes as well, the protein in them is going to either whey or soy or a combination of both. Why is this bad....soy protein, although cheap and easy to produce, is an estrogen mimicker. This means your body thinks that it's estrogen...hmmmm, I don't know about you, but as a guy, i want as little estrogen in my body as is possible. Man boobs are funny until you have them.
Whey protein is not much better, the dairy industry considers this a waste product and sells it by the truck load to the suppliment industry. If an industry that makes and sells a nutritionally devoid product like milk, says that whey is a waste product....I'd try to avoid that product like a tijuana hooker.
In reguards to your workout routine, what do you usually do for resistance training (lifting)? You will be very surprised to know that cardiovascular training is not as beneficial as has been proposed. WAIT before you judge, I'm not saying it doesn't have it's applications, but you have to understand who is saying it is beneficial. Ever wonder who "they" are? You know the saying: "Well..."they" said that you have to elevate you heart rate.....OR YOU'LL DIE!" This is usually stated a minute or two before you spend 3 grand on a high-tech rat wheel (treadmill). And those "double-blind", "peer-reviewed" studies that show your metabolism burns a billion more calories per nanosecond during low-intensity cardio, have to be questioned as well. If you look hard, you'll see that the funding comes from many of the manufacturers of exercise equiptment....hmmm....of course they're going to find this! How else would they sell you a very large and expensive coat rack? Of course you could always use it to walk you dog, seems to work for a friend of mine. What "they" don't tell you is that cardiovascular exercise can come simply from ANYTHING that elevates your heart rate. Long distance, slow-go cardio in not only boring (for most), but inefficient as well. Low intensity cardio is something that is and was never needed in our developmental history. Walking and sprinting, were extremely necessary however. How else could you get from one place to another...and get away from a very LARGE animal, who sees you as dinner. Really the only need for jogging would've been to relay messeges to and from villages.
Where am I going with this, you may ask? Well, first off, I'm simply trying to prove my point. Secondly, it gives you some background on why our body reacts to certain training. What would be better than traditional cardiovascular training? I'll answer this by first asking a question, as developmental man, what would we need endurance for? Building houses, transfering goods, fighting, etc. So how would you train yourself for these types of activites? Circuit training is one way and is more effective at burning calories, building muscle and gaining specific endurance than traditional methods.
Sorry if this seems sarcastic and slightly off the subject, but what I've learned in the last few years has made me slightly negative towards the "Health" Industry. If I'm slightly negative towards the health industry, I'm downright disgusted when it comes to the food industry. These two industries have basically profited off of your pain, disease as well as dysfunction.
Anyway, I'll get off my soap box for today, but if you want any other info on this stuff or anything else for that matter, just ask.
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2004/10/24, 06:22 PM
sorry for any bad grammer or misspelled words, in a hurry and don't have to for proofreading.
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2004/10/24, 06:26 PM
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Quoting from porphyria:
Well, this is my last stand. I'm just so f*cking pissed because my friends always give me sh** how I'm a "muscle head" but have "no six pack" like all of THEIR ANOREXIC asses. This was especially apparent at a party I went to last night and I'm now fully determined. I have very little fat on my stomach, but JUST ENOUGH to cover my abs. It's funny, if I flex my abs and "pull up a little" I can see my abs, so I know that my goal won't be too hard to reach but here is what I'm going to do.
Today I woke up and did 25 minutes of HIIT. about 220 calories burned total in about 20 minutes. Before this I ate one egg white and 10 minutes afterwards I consumed a 24g protein shake (no fat, 1g carb, 100 something calories in total). Here are my questions:
1. When trying to lose fat like this, I was wondering what the opinion was on fruit. Blueberries and apples are all very high in natural sugar carbs so I'm unsure and very confused on whether or not to eat fruits.
Eat your fruits early in the day, and opt for fruits with a good thermic response...like strawberies, blueberries...etc. Not inferior fruits at this time like bananas(very high in sugars)Fruits when fat dieting are normally a waste of needed calories to support lean tissue. Calories are at a premium at this time, and fruit really does not fit in now.
2. Is a single eggwhite enough to eat before HIIT early in the morning? (without eating breakfast... I can't run really well when I just ate something, and my goal is too burn as much fat as possible while saving muscle).
No way....this was the first thing I was going to comment on. HIIT has a very high anerobic as well as aerobic component first off, you wouldn't work out on an empty stomach would you? You are in a very catabolic state first thing in the morning, and you will be sacrificing hard earned muscle if you do this on an empty stomach...cortisol is running rampant.
3. I'm probably going to be lifting on most of these days with my brother, as we already lift 3-4 times a week, but I've been hearing that cardio in AM and then weights in PM is OK if you "replenish" your glycogen stores. How do I do this?
Make your weight workout your priority. Check my post "cardio qestions".
4. Whats a "substantial" lunch. I can never figure this out. Usually I have a turkey sandwhich on wheat bread with lettuce tomato and some cheese, with a water bottle and maybe an apple (although not recently because of braces, but tomorrow I get my braces off :)). Is this a suitable lunch, or am I missing something? It seems to work fine for days that I'm going to lift because my bench has been gaining alot over the past few months (but I havent really been trying to lose weight, just get muscle) and thats what I've been eating for lunch and I can now get 12 reps at 135 :).
If you are going on a fat burning diet, you need to design your diet. Guessing at something and eating "lunch" will not do it. You need to have a feeding every 3-3 1/2 hrs. every day. Include your alloted protein amount in every meal, and on a fat burning diet, fibrous carbs are your best freind. Add later in the day some good Omega 3 fatty acids.
5. Whats a good breakfast... I'm always pressed for time when I wake up, I usually just eat a bowl of Cheerios with a cup or two of Non-fat milk.
This is not an acceptable breakfast, not on a cutting diet, in fact not on any workout diet. Again, you need structure in your diet. You need to get protein in eachmeal, and especially so in the morning. Oats would be a good thing to have with it.
Thanks for all help that can be offered...
:love:
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2004/10/24, 10:42 PM
Yes I recognize this but you must recognize... being an eigth grader in Middle school, I don't exactly get time to eat every 2-3 hours. :(. I used to have quaker Oatmeal every single morning but it just got so sickening I can't even look at it anymore :(. (I would it eat with just milk, no brown sugar, nothing).
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2004/10/24, 10:46 PM
Also.. BB1FIT thanks for the help but uh, I really have no idea of what "fibrous carbs" are, and I already am eating flax seed.
Also the cheerios and milk thing (although sounding horrible) has all in all about 30g of protein. I drink a cup of milk in the cereal and a cup of milk literally, (all 0% fat free milk) and I figure cheerios has a little protein in it, but I'd have to check.
Anyways, thanks for all the help.
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2004/10/25, 11:11 AM
:big_smile: Yep, all champion bodybuilders eat Cheerios and milk for their morning protein...anyway, thanks for acknowleging my help. Any time...good luck to you.
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2004/10/25, 11:43 AM
Look, I'm not trying to be a champion body builder... I'm trying to reach age 14 alive. If I had more than 10 minutes for breakfast, I'd have that oldstyle scottish oatmeal that takes like 30 minuetes to make, or even scrambled eggs, but I just don't have the time. I don't know why you're making fun of me.. thats a first.. but anyways it's cool. I just thought I'd tell you that I have no intention of being a professional body builder, I would just like to get stronger and look better. Currently what I'm doing seems to be helping me in that way, but I would like someone who knows what they're doings input thats all. (like you).
I also looked all over and couldn't find out howto "restore my glycogen levels" that your Cardio + Lifting thread was talking about.. I also don't know what a fibrous carb is...
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