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robct1978 Posts: 120 Joined: 2003/03/20	2003/04/04, 11:51 AM Ive been working out for 3 weeks now on the program i got here for muscle mass and i am on the ab program Not a big boy (5'8 160lbs)but a tiny stomach, maybe a 32 waist. Anyways i wore my favorite jeans last weekend, (when i was on the program for 2 weeks) they fit fine. This week they are noticably looser. Im not really trying to lose weight, im trying to gain aren't i b/c i want muscle and that weighs more than fat? so shouldn't i maybe go out in sizes kinda like bulking up? I think its awesome though either way GO ME!! my diet of shreaded wheat and chicken and water is paying off. The only person to quit smoking AND LOSE weight!! haha./...i think i need to go shopping tonight. Whooo hooo!!
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2003/04/04, 01:18 PM Good for you! Keep up the good work, and keep us posted! -------------- Michael "Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!"
gwindalyn Posts: 434 Joined: 2003/01/15	2003/04/04, 03:52 PM Congratulations!! I could be wrong, but I always thought that even though muscle weighs more, I would lose inches. Definitely go shopping!! That is what I did this week to celebrate that I had stuck with the program for 3 weeks. And I didn't even see the results you have yet. LOL! -------------- ~Jennifer http://www.gwindalyn.com
newmaciel Posts: 13 Joined: 2003/04/02	2003/04/04, 04:46 PM Uh-how can 'muscle way more than fat'?A pound is a pound no matter what it's made up of,water,or meat,muscle is more compact so it fits in a smaller 'unit' than fat..... Robct1978- i'm no officiator but I think that what you want is to firm up what you've got into muscle,then work on 'bulking up'if that's your goal.That's probably what's going on with your pant fit-your changing the shape of your body by making those muscles tight and strong and the soft edges of fat more polished. ;) Congradulations
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2003/04/04, 07:09 PM No, actually, muscles is more dense, therefore it weighs more than fat. For example, an overlyfat person will have an easier time staying afloat in water, while a leaner more muscular person will have to work harder to stay above surface. A pound is not a pound and there is a huge difference between the two. Another example, (I got this one from one of my classes)Bodyfat measurements were taken between 2 individuals, one a 6'2" 289lb lineman and one from a 5'1" 90lb female who had an eating disorder. As it turned out the lineman had a mere 23% BF and, guess what the skinny little girls was? 56%!!! So you see, a pound is not a pound. By the way, the girl died a year later after the study. She lost weight the hard way.
gwindalyn Posts: 434 Joined: 2003/01/15	2003/04/04, 07:42 PM A pound is a pound on the scale, yes. But a pound is not a pound when you consider volume and space. If you take 6 square inches of muscle and 6 square inches of fat, the muscle weighs more. If you get 6lbs of muscle and 6lbs of fat, the muscle will take up less space. The example with the lineman that dahayz gave is a perfect explanation! Hope you don't mind if I use that one. ;) -------------- ~Jennifer http://www.gwindalyn.com
mackfactor Posts: 766 Joined: 2002/10/17	2003/04/08, 12:59 PM WOW! Fifty six percent body fat at 90lbs.! That's unbelievable. I had no idea that condition could get to such outrageous proportions. That just goes to show you, weight means very little. Thanks for the post dahayz. BTW - what are you studying and where? -------------- "Don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters!" -- Bob Dylan
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2003/04/08, 01:10 PM I am studying for my associates in Exercise Science and Technology. I take my classes at a community college that has a very well respected program in my area. I can say that I was just as shocked, but it does go to show you that a pound is NOT a pound. It was a sad case though.
Persephone2999 Posts: 14 Joined: 2003/03/25	2003/04/08, 01:47 PM Wow! That's incredible! I am learning so much from this website & from all of you. Thank you. I've lost much weight in the past, but always did it by practically starving myself, eating too many carbs & not enough protein, so I would have little to no strength or energy to work out. I had low blood sugar attacks left & right & found myself always thinking about food. It would get worse & worse until I couldn't take it anymore & gave in, which was twice as devastating, emotionally & phsycially. I've already learned so much in the 2 weeks that I started this program. I sure hope it comes off & STAYS OFF this time!
Deby Posts: 333 Joined: 2002/08/05	2003/04/08, 04:20 PM All you are eating is shredded wheat, chicken and water?????? -------------- Gramma
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2003/04/09, 08:18 AM Good luck to you persephone, the one key is to realize that it has got to become a part of your life. When people try to "diet" they set themselves up for failure because they simply are not looking at anything long term. They want results TODAY. Well, that isn't going to happen. After living such unhealthy lifestyles for years and years, it blows me away that people cannot comprehend that it takes time to lose fat, gain muscle and stay in shape. It has to become part of who you are or want to be. Set goals for yourself and don't let anybody stand in your way. Always keep a positive attitude and most importantly, have fun.
mackfactor Posts: 766 Joined: 2002/10/17	2003/04/09, 03:45 PM dahayz - what do you think of the program? Is it thorough enough, in your opinion? If you've read the NSCA textbook - how does the curriculum compare to what's presented in there? -------------- "Don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters!" -- Bob Dylan
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2003/04/09, 03:56 PM It is a great program, it is an accredited college, so everything that is taught is government regulated, which means all info has been heavily scrutinized before being taught, although I still feel that the government has failed on the nutritional aspect of things in the US. I have not read the NSCA textbook, so I honestly could not tell you. I would think that a 2 year program would be more informative though.
mackfactor Posts: 766 Joined: 2002/10/17	2003/04/10, 01:27 PM Don't get me wrong, I have no doubts that the actual program is far more informative, I was just wondering about the likeness of information and theory. Obviously there are a lot of opinions on what the best way to do things is, and I was wondering how standardized program curricula compared to the information in that book. I assume that nutritionally they're teaching you the food pyramid gibberish? -------------- "Don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters!" -- Bob Dylan
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2003/04/10, 02:57 PM Yes they are and it is vry unfortunate. It is to obvious that the food pyramind is very wrong and obselete. As far as theory goes, this is what I have found, these classes teach what goes for the general public. A definite no-no for somebody looking to work with people who are motivated to work out. Also, in my Ex. Physiology class, all we did was talk about endurance athletes, swimmers or cycleists. Not once did we talk about weight training of any sort, that really bothered me. I always got into arguments with my professor about protein intake, she follows the old school low protein crap. Don't get me wrong, it is a great cirriculum, and I have learned a lot (especially in kineseology and anatomy) but I feel that knowledge with weight training, diet and those aspects are best learned in the "trenches".
Persephone2999 Posts: 14 Joined: 2003/03/25	2003/04/10, 08:02 PM Thank you dahayz. I really appreciate the encouraging post. I am now looking toward the distant future instead of recent & trying to be realistic about my goals. Whenever I start to get discouraged & think it'll never work, I just keep telling myself patience & persistence, stick with it, & I will see results & it'll be worth all the hard work & waiting. I'm almost 27 now & I'm not getting any younger, lol! I want to have the energy to enjoy my middle years & being a grandma someday, without FEELING like a grandma!
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2003/04/10, 08:15 PM Patience and persistence are key. Without it, failure is the only option. It's good that you are looking ahead, stick with this lifestyle, and YOU'LL run your grandkids ragged, LOL.