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2003/01/22, 06:18 PM
i was always told that soreness only occurs when you haven't worked a specific muscle for a while, and once your muscle gets used to it, they wont be sore. I was also told that soreness is a sign that you actually worked the muscle correctly, so you should be glad to be sore. Which is true? Lifted last night, wasn't sore, a little worried.
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2003/01/22, 06:29 PM
Hello,
there is a little truth to both. Your muscles will be sore if you are returning from a lay off, that is why it is encouraged to take it slow for the first 1-2 weeks.
Also, I strongly believe that there should be some soreness on a regular basis following workouts once you are on a steady program. Muscle soreness is a sign of growth. It is the process of the breakdown and regeneration of stronger and adapt muscle tissue. If you are not sore after workouts, try to change things around, try new methods and principles.
ft does a great job on changing workout for you from week to week and the majority of programs last for 8 weeks where the body will be used to the training and it will be time for a new program.
Good Luck.
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2003/01/22, 06:31 PM
Everyone is different. Some people experience DOMS all the time, others only feel sore while they are doing the muscle. I am one of these. The only time I get DOMS is if I do something really out of the ordinary, and then it is just minor. If you are training with intensity, and you know you had a good workout, don't worry about it. It is not a sign of a great workout.
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The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary!
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2003/01/22, 09:16 PM
In the last few months of my training I wasn't getting sore unless I did something different, like bb1fit says.
Now, I am in the middle of my 3rd week of a program here on ft, let me tell you this, I have never been as sore either the next day or 2 days later as I am getting now. So that is because of what Arnold said, and I can vouch for both the other posts! Also like bb1fit said ....If you had a good workout it means you worked hard. Hope these posts help.
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The trouble with jogging is that, by the time you realize you are not in shape for it, it is too far to walk back! Franklin P. Jones
Ivan Montreal Canada
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2003/01/23, 07:15 AM
At first I used to get sore, now if I've had a good workout I;m "aware" of my muscles the next day, if you get my meaning, but not in pain. I'd rather be able to be active again the next day after a workout (not to lift, just to cycle to work even!) than nuke my body.
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2003/01/23, 09:44 AM
thanks everyone
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2003/01/23, 02:36 PM
This from t-mag.com:
"Myth #2: You gotta get sore to grow!
It's tough to convince people this myth is untrue. Trainees like immediate responses to weight training programs. Males especially are infatuated with fast muscle growth (I include myself in this category). Unfortunately, training that causes soreness creates a false sense of accomplishment. In other words, soreness will cause an immediate increase in girth measurements, but it's not due to added muscle; instead, a certain degree of swelling accompanies medium to severe soreness. This swelling is what's making the tape measure your new best friend. Within a few days, the soreness (and swelling) is gone and so is the new "size"!
But what about the talk of soreness causing increased secretion of growth hormone, Testosterone and IGF-1, therefore leading to increased muscle growth? Sorry buddy, but I ain't buying it. Early in my training career I thought this statement was true, but years of experience have shown otherwise. From my observations, I can tell you the studies I've read supporting such a claim aren't translating into new muscle growth. Kind of reminds me of HMB — all research and no results. The same is true with severe muscle soreness.
I could do many things to your body to make it sore (hit you in the biceps repeatedly with a tire iron, for example) and it wouldn't elicit a muscle growth response! I'm not the first strength coach to make such a statement but it bears repeating. Make no mistake about it: extreme muscle soreness slows the recovery process. If you want fast muscle gains, avoid severe soreness. You can take that statement to the bank (and tell them I sent you)."
"I know so many lifters who only feel satisfied if a workout causes soreness. Such a notion is absurd! Your primary goal should be to train the muscular system so that little or no soreness occurs. Why? Because soreness will only slow recovery."
Those thoughts are from Chad Waterbury and I've heard the same echoed from other reknowned trainers such as Charles Staley. It seems the overwhelming opinion is that soreness should be present, but if there's so much you have trouble moving, you're impeding your progress. That advice is also geared towards more advanced trainees - novices who don't get sore likely aren't working hard enough - but it's not necessary to feel like you got hit by a bus the next morning.
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"Don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters!"
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