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2005/04/09, 10:28 PM
I started at GNC and I'm seeing a patern of guys who'd like to lose their gut with as little excercise, if not as quick, as walking in and out of the store. My manager, who's training me, directed a guy to the 50 Gram Slams since the guy was a truck driver and that seemed reasonable if the guy can hold down a reasonable diet. I was thinking maybe some appetite suppresents/fat burning herbs as well. Anyone else have a suggestion for these type of people?
I'd think it's possible to see at least some results with a good "quick fix," at least enough to be encouraging and get the person on the right track for the long run.
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2005/04/09, 10:34 PM
No ofense man, but guys like you in gnc is why I don't go in there. Well, I do I just don't listen........why instead of selling somthing, you tell them some stuff they can do........I mean theres nothing on the market that "burns fat" off the mid-section....period. Appitite surpressants, caffine pills what have you, all give a false hope to the untrained people. Once their body gets used to the stimulant(s) it will take more andmore to get the same "high/fix"
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2005/04/10, 12:58 AM
maybe i wasn't specific enough.
I talk to everyone that comes in about their goals, what they are/aren't and can/can't do as far as diet and excercise.
my question is what to suggest to those who would like to diet but are either lazy about it or don't have the time.
Personally, I think quick fixes are bullshit.
Personally, I think the "no time" excuse is bullshit.
As an employee of a nutrition and supplement store, I would like to know how to help these people at least SOMEWHAT with their goals and within their abilities. I know what it really takes to get real results and I share what I know with anybody that can benefit from it, but certain people benefit from certain things and I honestly don't know much about helping people in that position of "no time"
no offense taken
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2005/04/10, 07:38 AM
something to tell to your customers:
"if you have billion dollars but can't enjoy em b'coz of health problems, can't go to beaches, can't ride sports cars, can't dance, can't go outing, can't swim, ur respiratory system is not working properly, your liver is not working properly, kidneys are not working properly, you have a heart problem... then what is the point of earning money?...
get 1 hour out of ur BUSY time and go for workout..
earn a million instead of a billion.. work 1 hour less.. give that hour to ur body... and enjoy what u earn.. ur body will support u for everything..."
man.. do i sound like a commercial? :big_smile:
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A life worth living is a life lived with honor and dignity..bow to no moral and bowed by none.. THATS ME
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2005/04/10, 10:35 AM
"Give an hour to you body"
I like that advice Dominator.
The problem here is people get the way they are from one's own lifestyle over many years. It just amazes me how they can think there is a quick fix. If there was, the FDA would not be approving new "Diets" every month, and exercise magazines would be out of buisiness due to know marketing with bogus products.
Lifter_puller....educate yourself with what works and doesn't work, and try it yourself. Exercise, diet, and a little supplementation.
Good luck.
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Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet!
Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press.
Ivan
carivan@freetrainers.com
Montreal Canada
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2005/04/10, 09:12 PM
rnc, I don't trust any of those fat burners either, but in some way or another, anything can "work" so I can't say anything definitively other than I wouldn't recommend them.
Well said dominator.
carivan, good points. I've been browsing this site for months and now that I can afford it I'll be on a serious bodybuilding diet. Probably the main reason I got a job at GNC is so I can learn as much as possible, and it benefits not just myself, but everyone that shops there.
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2005/04/11, 05:53 PM
thanx carivan.. just saying what i think and learned :)
and lifter_puller... i don't get into arguments about whether those things work or not.. they might.. they might not.. but just for a thought.. why do people try everything.. and i mean EVERYTHING from diets to fat burners to supplementations to starving to medications and what not and then give up trying?.. only ONE answer.. they never try it the OLD FASHIONED way.. exercise..
human body adopts to the changes very quickly.. the main goal?.. survival.. for that what is required?.. energy stores... why?.. to have enough to function properly when nothing is available... solution?.. energy storage as fats...
now u can do all the changings and what not.. the body will adopt to it pretty quickly (give three four days) and will NOT touch the stored fats until and unless there is NO other way.. worst thing is.. it'll use lean body mass to generate energy... body is intelligent remember?.. so if u r not doing any strength training or any tough physical work.. huge muscles are useless... in addition to that.. more muscles require more energy.. (opposite to what body is programmed for... survival)... so intelligent as it is.. human body will try to reduce the overhead (muscles).. in order to preserve the energy stores longer... now.. that reduces the fat burning machines in the body (muscles require energy right?.. and the store from where they get it is FAT)...
All in all i would say.. the ONLY possible way to be healthy.. look good.. energatic.. and active is by physically working out and eating clean diet (no naming required just simple pure clean diet).. that FORCES the body to open "locked" stores of FAT and use from them..
just my thoughts :big_smile:...
guyssssss... am i learning or what? :big_smile:
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A life worth living is a life lived with honor and dignity..bow to no moral and bowed by none.. THATS ME
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2005/04/11, 09:34 PM
Very good post the dominator. You are learning very well.
DX
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2005/04/12, 12:16 AM
rnc, GNC.com says Mega Men multivitamins are the #1 seller, and with good reason. The best product sold at GNC is the one that suits your goals.
Good points again Dominator, but most Americans just don't believe that stuff. It's sad for them and frustrating for people like us who are just trying to help. I would rather sell vitamins to these people than metabolism boosters, but after working restaraunts, fast food places, and now GNC, I can tell you smart dieters are in the minority. Heresay and general misinformation has degraded most of society beyond repair and I just do what I can to help. If they want a fat burner, I'll throw as much helpful knowledge out as I can. It's really up to the individual to want to earn their goals.
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2005/04/12, 07:03 AM
seems to me all the supplements are useless for the large majority of these dieters......they help in conjuction with all the other elements....(weight training, proper nutrition, cardio, sleep, etc)...but in themselves are useless....
I am seeing interesting facts about Hoodia Gordonii ...supposedly it can suppress appetite by up to 40%...however the dosages of 500mg to 2g a day is the proper dosage...yet highest supplement in my store only has 400mg....and Trim Spa for example only has 125mg....so part of the problem even for good supplements is that they are often in too low a dosage to work....so they get written off....
problem with GNC is that it's way too overpriced and majority of the stuff there is utter crap....at least the ones i been to....
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2005/04/12, 07:25 AM
i got a good deal from GNC a few days back... got creatine and protein powder on half price.. atleast it was MUCH cheaper then Boots or other stores around here..
i was concerned though.. cuz the creatine pack said to drink 4/5 servings a day for loading phase.. and the serving scoope was 45g.. now what i've read and understood.. it should be .3g per kg of the body weight.. so mine was coming like 25g/day at loading.. oh well.. i decided to go with 25g/day.. don't want my kidneys to go all nuts clearing excess creatine... :big_smile:
lifter_puller.. i agree to the hearsay and misinformation you are talking about.. cuz i was one of them a few months ago.. until i joined this community... i would say.. sell them what they want.. just tell them they'll get BETTER result if they follow the instructions on FT :winks:.. how does that sounds? :big_smile:
see.. i know people don't want to listen against their will.. but if even ONE person... anyone (just like me)... understood what it takes to get onto the right path.. its worth the try.. isn't it?... we'll be playing our part in the society possitively :).. and believe me.. this chain reaction continues :)
well said menace.. supplements are Helpers.. not the Drivers of Health wagon :big_smile:
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A life worth living is a life lived with honor and dignity..bow to no moral and bowed by none.. THATS ME
Me and My Body are competitors... we compete each other for different goals..
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