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summer challange........lift off

bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/04/25, 07:28 AM I think its once again time......for a "challange"........somthing like last time.......max on squats,dls, and bench presses. Weight lifted/your bw......that way its fairly, far across the board. example........200lb guy benches 200..........200/200=1 300lb guy benches 300 .............300/300=1 So your compared lb for lb the weight you lifted. LAdies could h ave seperate catagory. And i think we had a bodyfat section too.......for those trying to loose body fat. So anyone game? or you scared of a "panty waist"? lol -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
SkinnyM6886 Posts: 143 Joined: 2004/10/25	2005/04/25, 11:56 AM are you wanting to start this immediately or are you wanting to started it a month or so closer to summer
sbroyhill Posts: 442 Joined: 2005/04/06	2005/04/25, 12:03 PM Well I weigh 200 And I bench 25 lbs. Can I enter, and do I have a chance? :laugh: :big_smile: :dumbbell: :dumbbell: :dumbbell: -------------- :Hard work equals great results!:
princesslodgey Posts: 1,748 Joined: 2004/02/21	2005/04/25, 01:31 PM I can't do the DLs or Squats because of my back (well, actually because I'm afraid of a panty waist :big_smile: ) but I'm probablt up for the rest of the challenge. I seem to remember that the pre-challenge preparation was one of the best parts of the last challenge.
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/04/25, 02:02 PM I was looking toward starting at the middle of may.....so if people wanna "break" for a week or so....and start fresh......but i'm up for sugestions -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
DX14AG Posts: 1,055 Joined: 2004/07/22	2005/04/25, 02:29 PM I'm in
	2005/04/25, 04:11 PM sure...But i am split between trying to achieve a great 6pack and improving significantly in my lifts....lol....
fsdsk Posts: 959 Joined: 2003/11/30	2005/04/25, 05:04 PM Sounds good. I would suggest setting up a few catergories to participate in 1. BF% reduction 2. % lifting gains in each exercise 3. weight reduction 4. something with cardio - not sure what 5. Muscle mass increase (measurements)
David1201086 Posts: 253 Joined: 2004/06/15	2005/04/25, 05:07 PM How can I find out my bodyfat % without a caliper?
yadmit Posts: 4,670 Joined: 2003/10/05	2005/04/25, 05:16 PM A lot of us here use www.mybodycomp.com t ============ Quoting from David1201086: How can I find out my bodyfat % without a caliper? ============= -------------- This donut has purple in the middle, purple is a fruit. - Homer (Simpson) Be here. Live. Love. Hope. Now. Faith. Believe. You. - Keith Urban
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/04/25, 06:34 PM fsdsk.....last time we used my formula......weight lifted/body weight........that gives you a score.....and thats a percentage.......without needing weight classes persay. If you can maintain your strength and loose 10lbs......then do it.. makes your percentage higher.... 120lb guy benching 200 has a score of 1.666- if he looses 20lbs.....his score is 2......as in 200% more than his body weight. we could add the mile run in there , and for every sec. you improve......you can add a point.....to your totals. But no walking a mile 1st time...in 20mins.....then jopgging it and getting 8 mins lol -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
fsdsk Posts: 959 Joined: 2003/11/30	2005/04/25, 07:28 PM So we have a beginning score and and ending score?
mmaibohm Posts: 1,621 Joined: 2003/09/30	2005/04/25, 09:06 PM Andrew I am in? does my new secret bench weapon able to be used? -------------- I am that which must be feared, worshipped and adored. The world is mine now and forever.No one holds command over me. No man. No god. I am ANIMAL! and that is enough.
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/04/26, 07:37 AM yes fsdsk.........oh any secret weapon can be used. LOng as its legal lol -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
princesslodgey Posts: 1,748 Joined: 2004/02/21	2005/04/26, 07:44 AM I was thinking that for cardio you could look at resting pulse at the beginning of the challenge and at the end to see who's drops the most - this would mean that those of us who are broken and don't do running can all take part :)
princesslodgey Posts: 1,748 Joined: 2004/02/21	2005/04/26, 07:46 AM But I don't know if you would notice a difference in such a short space of time, so maybe I'll just shut up!
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2005/04/26, 08:19 AM As long as I get down to my weight goal by then (which I think I should) then I plan to do a lot more weight training, so I'm in.
mariebrom Posts: 15 Joined: 2004/09/17	2005/04/26, 08:46 AM Okay - i'm going to wait till I get home from the office, do the measuring fat thingy and you can count me in.
fsdsk Posts: 959 Joined: 2003/11/30	2005/04/26, 09:25 AM So what are the start and end dates?
mmaibohm Posts: 1,621 Joined: 2003/09/30	2005/04/26, 02:27 PM andrew is single ply poly useable in this federation lol -------------- I am that which must be feared, worshipped and adored. The world is mine now and forever.No one holds command over me. No man. No god. I am ANIMAL! and that is enough.
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/04/26, 05:15 PM if you mass with it ......and yoru final max is with it... i see no prob.... Prob with rest heart rate is, very hard to do on ones self by watching time, counting secs.......really need a partner.....and not alot of people know how to do it. You could walk a mile? -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
mariebrom Posts: 15 Joined: 2004/09/17	2005/04/27, 04:39 AM Dude I just measured my body fat - a rather astounding 25.6. I had no idea. What should I be aiming to loose over the next say 3 months?
mariebrom Posts: 15 Joined: 2004/09/17	2005/04/27, 05:01 AM Hmm I'm thinking I may have measured myself wrongly after reading the article about body fat... it was pretty hard to do some bits without the tape measure slipping.... I'm going to try that again.
fsdsk Posts: 959 Joined: 2003/11/30	2005/04/27, 05:38 AM Try buying some calipers they will give you a more (but not completely) accurate reading ============ Quoting from mariebrom: Hmm I'm thinking I may have measured myself wrongly after reading the article about body fat... it was pretty hard to do some bits without the tape measure slipping.... I'm going to try that again. =============
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/04/27, 07:42 AM 25 is bad for a girl........18-21 is concidered quite lean for a girl. -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
	2005/04/27, 08:39 AM well 25% is on the upper end of a healthy body fat....usually it's 18-22 for avg for female..but some estimates are as high as 22-25%..that I have seen...so 25 is ok...but you should aim to drop 5-8% as you continue to train....
mariebrom Posts: 15 Joined: 2004/09/17	2005/04/27, 08:45 AM I only weigh 114 lbs..... hmmm I'll get back to you.
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/04/29, 09:54 AM how about we start, not this comming monday but the following monday.......and end it on july 1st.....that about 8 weeks of training.......and it give everyone july forth off to bbq and get drunk if you like. That ok with everyone? OR you want longer? -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
DX14AG Posts: 1,055 Joined: 2004/07/22	2005/04/29, 02:32 PM That would be cool with me. DX
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/04/29, 08:24 PM or would you rather it go to aug 1? 12 weeks? -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
mmaibohm Posts: 1,621 Joined: 2003/09/30	2005/04/29, 10:44 PM 8 weeks is fine or 12 im up for anything -------------- I am that which must be feared, worshipped and adored. The world is mine now and forever.No one holds command over me. No man. No god. I am ANIMAL! and that is enough.
	2005/04/30, 04:55 AM either is fine by me
fsdsk Posts: 959 Joined: 2003/11/30	2005/04/30, 07:49 AM I like 8
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/05/01, 01:13 PM All right then, for those intrested we start a week from tomorrow( next monday)......cause most colleges have exames this week. And end on july 2........so we can have the 4th off, for traveling rest, drinking and BBQ'n. -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
DX14AG Posts: 1,055 Joined: 2004/07/22	2005/05/01, 08:55 PM Alrighty then. Will there be a winner? Has this been done before? DX
RandomGirl Posts: 227 Joined: 2005/02/25	2005/05/02, 08:35 PM I have a question I just assumed we were only counting the plates, are we supposed to count the barweight too? also, I've been working out alone in my garage and have been to nerveous to attempt a max effort. I could prolly just drop the bar for the max DL and Squat if I went too heavy, but for the bench I might injure myslf.. I did check menace's link to the 1rpm caculator, and it up'ed my lift roughly 10 lbs for a 1rpm do I need to change my starting stats or am I alright with the originals so long as I keep within the same exact terms to post my final stats? sorry to be such a pain
	2005/05/03, 04:24 AM First off...since you're lifting the bar...you should definitely add it to the total amount lifted....so 45lb for a standard olympic sized barbell.... just train in the reps you're comfortable...and convert your results using that calculator...it's fine...don't give it a 2nd thought Also there isn't someone to spot you? training alone can be quite dangerous....
RandomGirl Posts: 227 Joined: 2005/02/25	2005/05/03, 07:01 PM nah menace..it's just me alone in the garage for right now. I've been increasing super slow to try to avoid injury, and I bought cheap mirrors to watch my form. well dag...all this time..I've never counted the barweight..I suddenly feel tougher! thanks man:)
	2005/05/04, 03:50 PM get some resistance bands....you may get a lot of use from them...and combine them with free weights....this will insure you're using very little actual free weight and you can go 'heavier'...so that if squats call for 135lb of total resistance...you may be able to use 90 lb of bands and the 45lb olympic sized barbell....which I think is a nice compromise...a lot safer...and very effective(this is how the world record in bench was achieved)...it's also a lot easier on the joints....
littledude631 Posts: 7 Joined: 2005/05/30	2005/06/02, 07:10 PM Lol I just read this topic today... Guess it just ended today... Dang I wanted to enter lol:(... who won?
littledude631 Posts: 7 Joined: 2005/05/30	2005/06/02, 07:11 PM Wait I stand corrected! Nvm it ends in a month... oh well still half-way into it... I don't think I could enter now lol... not enough time :( :dumbbell:
	2005/06/02, 08:28 PM go ahead....who cares....just do your best.....the point of this is some friendly competition to help us work out harder as well as help each other along the way...you're more than welcome to join now, in a week, or whenever you decide you're ready...
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/04, 06:00 PM are you wanting to enter? Or just shooting off your numbers and mouth? ============ Quoting from man_of_steel: i weigh 150lb and bench 287 ============= -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle