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2005/02/13, 07:55 PM
I have read on numerouse times that "The body does not care what it looks like. Fat storage is the main goal. The body would sooner give up lean tissue to preserve fat stores". If that was true would it not be so then that fat would be desirable to us when chosing a mate. If this were the case I would imagine that due to evolution it would be the fat guys that get all the girls. Instead the oposite is true. What is the reason for this.
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2005/02/13, 09:49 PM
it is about survival....however the "perfect" survival body is a combo of fat and muscle.......not to much of either or.......because too much fat won't keep you warm or for extra fuel........but too much fat will make you slow, out of shape.....there for not being able to run or catch prey. ........
Think of bears, gurillas, rhinos , elephants.....very strong very powerful.......however not too musclear or too fat.
But look at chetahs, or other big cats.....very kuscler very lil fat........if they don't eat for a months time or so......they can die.
however humans don't pick a mate by survival instincts lol......but I have seen stuff on tv....women find men with a nice "v" taper( broad shoulders) and medium to tall height.......is fairly ideal because it shows a them of "power" and intimidating......also those same guys usually get good jobs, becuase of this "power" look.
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2005/02/13, 09:53 PM
however agin talking about "survival" thats what weight traing is.....forcing yoru body to survive. Your body adapts to certain stimlus.....one is working out, so the body can "survive" the next workout without being "broke down/ damaged" It doesnt' care what it looks like, but it will survive, by making muscle bigger etc. Its just the more muscle we carry more musclear we appear.......which is what most people are going for.
And why if one stops working out, why after a few months.....you loose some muscle, because the body doesn't need that extra "meat" around....it has no reason too.
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2005/02/13, 09:54 PM
Well, until the fashion industry distorted our body images, women with healthy hips and big busts (both signs of fat storage and chil-bearing ability)were the desired shape.
I think many men have been 'programmed' to like anorexic, weak women, or falsely thin with fake breasts, but many men do like their women with some meat on their bones.
Women are programmed more to look for providers and protectors - a fat male is not an evolutionary creation. Men tend to be leaner, if our diets were still that of a hunter/gatherer society our men would be lean and wiry.
There are plenty of women who don't mind a man of substance, but they may not be the supermodel that most men expect to fall at their feet.
There are cultures where wealth is represented by obesity (the sign that you can afford to eat well) and those men do quite well in the female department, I am sure.
In the long run, you will meet someone and it will hopefully be your personalities and interests that draw you together, not your physical attributes, which can change and be improved on or made much worse very easily.
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Vision without action is a daydream, Action without vision is a nightmare.
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2005/02/13, 11:24 PM
Also I would imagine that the shape of people today is more down to the modern diet rather than a malfunction of evolution. It is doubtfull that homosapian would get into this shape due his hectic lifestyle such as haveing to fight and kill to eat and the lack of pies pasties and doughnuts on the menue.
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2005/02/14, 02:36 AM
Society (particuarly the media) dictates what is fashionable and what is sexy. In many cultures large people are considered beautiful and are more desired. This is often visible in cultures that are very poor as to be overweight there is an assumption that the person must be of upper class
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2005/02/14, 10:41 AM
Ok some great answers there very intuetive. but now take away peer presure and life styles put us all in a place stripped of our possesions and wealth, say survivers on a desert island who gets the chicks danny devito or brad pit. who gets the guy rosan bar or britney spears......? and why?
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2005/02/14, 11:01 AM
Although I don't want to play a devil's advocate, perhaps this is an issue that can get distorted in both directions. Although celebrities often do lose a lot of weight and become outright anorexic...ie lara Flynn Boyle, The olsen twin,demi moore now, etc...many women use this extreme to stay overweight, citing the above reasons for why they look fine....Yes media often dictates what is an appropriate look....however, perhaps more healthy indicators should be used....like bf%, endurance ,VO max, strength, etc.....I think way too many men and women just create excuses of 'I look fine , it's the d*** media that alters the reality about what we all should look like' while being 20,30,50 lb overweight....or using the all too popular and oft joked about 'i am big boned'.....The solution is better awareness for what is 'healthy' by the general public, and the end to the excuses/reasons which many just parrot without even understanding the sources of it....
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2005/02/14, 11:23 AM
Ok what I am trying to get at is, that what we learn about the way we gain weight and the way the body works. then it would be logical to asume that in the prehistoric times the more bodyfat you carried the more actractive you would be to the oposite sex. and lets face it when we are talking about pure sexual attraction this is clearly not the case.
and therefore apart from keeping warm and surviving long periods without food looking healthy would also come high on the agender for survival.
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