Group: General Diet & Nutrition

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Pushing myself too hard

Carpathian
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2004/07/22, 06:02 PM
I think I've narrowed down the problem some, not sure what to make of it, but the headaches come from lying down for some exercises and then sitting up to do the next one...

i.e.
lying on back, doing pull ups (chin between chairs)
stand up to do can curls head starts pounding, lie down... headache goes away...
Carpathian
Carpathian
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2004/07/22, 01:56 PM
It's confusing though, I didn't eat that much, and I've gained a lot of weight, so eating more is going to bump me up *Grin* Then again, till I was 18 and joined the army (when my weight gain started because of my back problems ) I ate like a horse and was so stick thin it's funny to see myself in old videos :)then again I used to run for fun all the time and just generally run everywhere I went pretty much *Grin*
2004/07/22, 02:04 PM
If you eat 4000 cals per day and do no cardio and particularly weight training, you'll gain weight.

If you do the exercise and don't eat the calories your body will think it s starvin and hold onto fat.

If you eat properly and exercise you'll burn the calories, lose the fat and gain muscle. Remember what we talked about as far as 5 or 6 small meals a day.Its important.

Its not really Catch 22 but it can seem that way.

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Foolish consistancies are the hobgoblins of small minds.

Charlie
Vedakathryn
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2004/07/22, 11:37 AM
When I say your level, I mean your ability - if you are stressed to the point you are having difficulty talking or breathing, that is too much. If you get winded quickly, you need to just take it easy and work your way up to the suggested reps/sets. It is not all that strange for someone that has had little to no exercise to find themselves tiring quickly, I have seen people that were thin and if asked by others they would say the person was in "great shape" yet the moment they walk up a set of stairs they are out of breath and gasping!

The other thing is to make sure you are eating enough calories in your day - if you are not, you won't have the stamina to support your workout. If you haven't done so already, check out your suggested calories here on FT in the nutrition section you filled out. Try that for a couple weeks and if you don't notice a loss, deduct 200-300 calories from that and try again. I remember finding myself very dizzy and ill and out of breath years ago when I wasn't eating enough - a good rule of thumb is to keep in mind your body has needs and it is up to you to fufill them! Eat good carbs, protein and less fat (and good fat at that!) and you will be amazed at how good you will feel after a short time! It is always good to check with your doctor before beginning any exercise plan, I would also suggest checking out if you are eating enough, and what you are eating and do your workout at a comfortable pace increasing it as you can. Remember to get a good resting period between workouts to allow those muscles to recover!

Hope you are doing better today!

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Veda
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Carpathian
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2004/07/22, 01:40 PM
Wow... I was doing about 2000 calories a day (pretty close to that... because I saw people saying they were starting with 1200-2000, my calorie intake in the nutrition plan says to be around 4227! I don't know if I can eat that much! :)
2004/07/22, 01:45 PM
You need to be close to that if you're going to do cardio and weight training. A lot of folks use meal replacements to get there.

You also need to build up to it gradually. Try upping your current calories per day by 250 or 300. Then next week do it again. When you get close, say 4000 cals, eat that for 2 weeks. If you maintain the same weight then you can begin cutting by the same amount. You need the balanced diet and calories to build muscle. That will burn the calories and help you lose the fat.

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Charlie
Carpathian
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2004/07/21, 09:06 PM
I fear I might not be in good enough shape to do these exercises yet *Grin* Muscle wise i'm achy but I know that's to be expected but today (my second day of training time (plus my first day of ab training time) I made it through the second set of reps and got a headache, where it felt like my head was pounding from my pulse and I could feel my pulse all through my head.

I sat down at my desk and took some deep breaths and rested my head down for what felt like a few moments, only to realize it had been approximately 3 hours, I've never "passed out" like that before... though on waking my headache is gone, I still feel a bit dizzy.

I drink more than the recommended levels of water through the day, and was doing my exercises directly in front of a fan that was keeping me cool (though I was still sweating *grin*

I've never had a problem with high blood pressure, sometimes it was a little high, but most of the time it was normal... any ideas? Oh, and I've been eating much less than before but not TOO little, keeping my calories up :)
Vedakathryn
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2004/07/21, 09:09 PM
The most important thing about starting an exercise program is to modify it to your level. Make sure you are breathing very well as lack of oxygen can cause headaches. You cannot start out with too much, start out and work your way up and when in doubt, check it out - with a doctor.

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Veda
MISERY IS OPTIONAL
***When you are up to your ears in trouble, try using the part that is not submerged.
***The difference between a dream and a goal is a plan.

HAVE A GREAT DAY!
Carpathian
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2004/07/21, 09:34 PM
I just don't know what "my level" is... I know I should always push myself, but don't want to push myself too far and hurt myself... *sigh*

At what point should I stop... how much is too much :)
princesslodgey
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2004/07/22, 04:20 AM
Are you holding your breath when you lift? You should breathe out with the hard part of the lift, never hold your breath.
Were you working out on an empty stomach? never do this, your blood sugar can get too low (do a search on fitbuddy for optimum pre-workout snacks)
Are you otherwise well or are you brewing a cold or other infection?

just a few thoughts
Carpathian
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2004/07/22, 05:49 AM
I'll watch my breathing, (by the way, not lifting, doing the home exercise version without weights (in fact using 2, 2lb jars of spaghetti sauce currently *grin*

not an empty stomach but definately been eating less, I don't know if it matters but I was taking SlimPath Burn (ephedra free)and a vitamin C supplement as well as a dose of OneSource Mens Multivitamin :)