2002/07/08, 01:37 AM
I'm Jayson, I am new to here, I have just finished my first week. I'm getting ready to start my second week. I've done pushups and situps in the past while in the US Army. I've been out just over a year, and have been slacking off. I have been trying to follow my diet but I can't reach my Carbohydrate or my Protien, or Calories needed any suggestion?!!!
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2002/07/08, 02:21 AM
Shouldn't it be 2g per pound of body weight for males? I know it is 1g per pound for females.
-------------- Lisa
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2002/07/08, 02:02 PM
Ice_man, some of your advice tends to go against a lot of the information on this board and on many BB websites, I think I'm not the only one curious to see what kind of form you are in as a sort of proof (or maybe some articles even). Sorry, if I come off like a butt hole, and I still think you give very valid advice.
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2002/07/08, 02:04 PM
I agree Ice_man has great advice, but everything I have read about protein has said that males need at least 1.5-2.0 grams per pound of body weight.
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2002/07/08, 02:06 PM
Mr. Ice, what tests are you specifically referring to? As bodybuilders, our protein requirements are typically higher than normal individuals. I believe that too much protein in a normal individual can possibly put more stress on the kidneys. However, as far as bodybuilders, intake needs to be high. The pros consume about 1.5-2 grams per pound of bodyweight (sometimes more). I haven't yet heard any of them having kidney failure. Most of us probably do the 1-1.5g, including myself.
Sorry, just my 2 cents...
-------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
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2002/07/09, 10:46 AM
Ice, it would help if you provided the website...LOL! Anyway, every country has different standards. Here in the U.S., the recommended daily allowance (RDA) is 0.36g/pound of bodyweight. To a 150 pound individual, this translates to about 54 grams per day.
However, the RDA applies to sedentary individuals. Those who are more athletic needs to consume about 50% more. And, for bodybuilders, who constantly destroy their muscle fibers by lifting heavy weights, it is not uncommon to see 1 to 1.5g per pound of bodyweight.
The stress on the kidneys and liver results from the processing of ketones derived from excess protein intake. Ketones are produced because the body does not "store" protein as it does carbohydrates. However, if the individual is healthy, the kidneys and liver should be able to process them without any problems. Again, show me one professional bodybuilder who has suffered from kidney and/or liver disease/failure/whatever.
Anyway, this seems to be a matter of opinion and we all have our own "sources."
-------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
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2002/07/09, 07:12 PM
Robert, that is what I believe and my personal trainer is the one I heard it from first. I consume about 1g per 1 pound and I haven't had any negative side effect only positive and I am in the best health of my life right now, so whatever the cause, I think it works, so I will stick to a 1-1 ratio.
-------------- Lisa
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