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2006/02/04, 12:52 AM
I don't know if I read this somewhere a while ago, or if I just imagined it - but isn't it true that some fat is more tightly bonded than others? And that losing this fat, or breaking it down for energy is far less likely to happen while there are other sources of energy for the body to use?
This is how it feels for me at least. I've been chubbier in some parts of my body ever since I was a kid. And now that I'm at my target weight, those parts (obliques and pecs) are still the same. I guess my question for FT is: if I continue losing weight will those areas eventually even out with the rest of my body?
Or, if I start focusing on weight lifting and developing lean mass, will the muscle just build overtop of those fatty areas or will the lean mass take the place of the fatty areas?
As a side note, this is my first post and I'd like to thank everyone here for the great advice they give.
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2006/02/04, 12:35 PM
Can't say I've ever heard of this. I presume you've hit a plateau and are finding it difficult to lose the last of your fat storages. You have a couple of options here. Either keep trying to lose weight (which can be difficult on those last stubborn lbs), or start putting on lean mass. Depending on how big you were before you might also just have excess skin...which will tighten up over time. If you've hit a plateau then I would probably recommend trying to pack on some lean mass, this will spread out the skin and remaining fat and still lower your BF%.
Also fill out your profile and you'll find that more people will answer your questions when we're able to see your goals and stats.
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2006/02/04, 01:21 PM
Are you sure you are not getting things mixed up? Like hearing about trans fats? Trans fats exerts the effect of allowing the fat particles to pack more tightly.
That is what makes them thicker and more spreadable, like margarines.
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2006/02/04, 01:36 PM
Perhaps I am mixing them up.
I have hit that plateau, but I don't feel desperate to lose these last pounds - thus I haven't did anything extreme about it.
I came from 200 to 175 and there really isn't any loose skin, just some areas that didn't thin out as much.
I'd like to put on more lean mass, but I don't want to cover up the fat. Perhaps I should loose another couple pounds, and then put of the lean mass afterwards, or will doing that at the same time accomplish the same thing.
%BF is something I just started looking at, since my old scale didn't measure it. I'm currently at 18%, 172lbs. I'd like to get down to 160-165 if possible. Maybe a more rigorous workout would help.
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2006/02/04, 01:44 PM
More energy exerted will indeed help, but it is strictly because of more caloric expenditure. At some point, this becomes difficult at best, just as cutting more calories does. A blend is probably best, and give it time. It may be at some point actually necessary to increase calories a bit towards maintenance for a week or so, to reset metabolism. You can only diet so long without the body fighting back at some point by slowing metabolism, etc. in reaction to what it percieves as starvation.
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2006/02/04, 01:47 PM
If you go to a CKD type diet like I posted in my diet thread, it will take about 2 weeks to "teach" your body to start using FA's as fuel.
When only protein is consumed, nitrogen balances are less negative than during total food deprivation. Nitrogen balance can be approached even while the energy balance remains markedly negative, but substantially higher protein intakes are required. This situation is commonly encountered during a 'protein-sparing modified fast', where, after one week of adaptation, a dose of 1.5 g protein/kg body weight/d is generally sufficient to maintain N balance (LINDNER and BLACKBURN, 1976).
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2006/02/04, 01:55 PM
Sorry for the double post, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I filled out my profile and it didn't save.
So here it is (I'll try to move it over again later):
Started in 9/2005 at ~200lbs (5'11"). I set a goal for myself to lose 30lbs by 1/2006.
As of now (2/2006), I've just about accomplished that goal by losing 28lbs. I did so by adjusting my diet with a 850kcal deficit (from a 2200 kcal total) and adding more exercise to my daily life.
I'm currently going to the gym 3-4 days a week, and doing martial arts (aikido) 2 days a week. At the gym I usually jump right on the tredmill and do a HIIT for about 20 minutes, fluxuating between 3.5mph,5mph, and 7mph. I have a bad endurance so it's hard for me to run on anything above 8mph. After my 20 minute HIIT I'll do some basic lifting. Bench press, curls, shrugs, lat pull-downs. I don't have a lifting plan, but I do plan on developing one -- when I'm ready to focus on lifting and adding lean mass.
My diet pretty much consisted of 6 meals. 200 cals for breakfast, 100 cals for snack before lunch, 550 cals for lunch, 100 cals for snack after lunch, and 400 cals for dinner.
Now that I've hit a plateau my diet has changed a little bit. I generally don't count my calories at lunch or at dinner - although I still try to eat in a healthy manner.
I'll add more about my eating habits later, which might help people give me better advice.
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