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Freetrainer.com Routines / Not allowed??

timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/08, 12:20 AM it wont let me click on any of the routines that i wanna do i wanna try to mass chest specilization routine as this is my weak point, do i have to pay and sign up to use this? ive signed up but i aint paying money to use somethingon the internet :s ?? thought it was free? thus the name free..trainer
Also_ran Posts: 2 Joined: 2005/03/08	2005/03/08, 06:32 AM I got into the program under mass gain, chest mass gain or something... I didn't try to click on it, though, maybe I will go back and see.. -------------- Old dog learning new tricks.
Also_ran Posts: 2 Joined: 2005/03/08	2005/03/08, 06:52 AM Okay - here is how I got to it: Click on fitness plan, then change exercise goals, personalized exercise program, fill out profile, picl 'Gain muscle mass and Size' (not 12 week mass gain) and now you can pick which muscle group to specialize. -------------- Old dog learning new tricks.
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/08, 11:38 PM nope still not working... what actually happens is i get to the page where i can click on the muscle specialization and im only aloud to choose Ab specilization work out.. the rest of them are "blanked out" so i aint aloud to click on them and i figured i have to pay for them but then i though but why? free trainers....? and other people r using it??? y cant i? so anyway it aint letting me check it out :o do i hafta sign up again or something...? cuz i really dont wanna do that...
	2005/03/08, 11:44 PM Do you check off weights AND machines? -------------- Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!!!!!! Charlie
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/08, 11:53 PM kk thnx a heap charlie i can now use them specialization prgrems i mite just have to substitue cuz i aint got machines :( lol also... i cant do the last program "12 week mass gain" or w/e it was called how do i get privlidges to that??
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/08, 11:55 PM also this speical chest one dont look very different then what they usually give you on gain mass routine :s? u use its specialized??
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/08, 11:57 PM forgot one more thing .. lol am i aloud to change exercises?? cuz i wanna do the chest specialization routine... but i also wanna add in Deadlifts and Cleans and Pullovers as i like these 3 exercises... maybe remove Stiff deads with deads? wot about cleans and pullovers with what? and also... at end of each exercise if i add "static" at it will it overtrain me?? thnx all bye..
	2005/03/09, 12:02 AM When you clicked "both"for weights and machines did you go completely through the setup steps and click "change my routine at the end? You can't pick your workout days on the mass program. -------------- Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!!!!!! Charlie
	2005/03/09, 12:04 AM Take a valium Timm. You're in this for the long haul. Do one. Then do the next one. -------------- Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!!!!!! Charlie
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/09, 12:08 AM a valium? i have no idea what that means.. sorry.. aint i just a bloody aussie!! :P anyway so u dont think i can add cleans or pullovers? just stick or even deads? just stick with wat they give me?? ok well ill change to a 4 day routine for chest specialization and see how i go. but it still aint letting me select the end program where u dont choose ur days for mass program... i just wanted to have a look at it.. :O
	2005/03/09, 12:09 AM never mind -------------- Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!!!!!! Charlie
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/09, 12:10 AM still didnt answer my question how do i check out mass program one? where u cant pick days?
	2005/03/09, 12:13 AM correct -------------- Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!!!!!! Charlie
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/09, 12:24 AM ? someone else...?
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/09, 12:24 AM nevamind
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/09, 12:26 AM must click on "advanced"
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/03/09, 02:43 PM I don't think cleans are used in any programs on here......cause they aren't concidered a "bodybuilding" type excercise. They are more asociated with speed and strength training since you usually do no more than 2 or 3 cleans at a time. PLus they are VERY dangerous if done improperly, the clean is somthing you really need shown, not read or look at pics. -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
	2005/03/09, 02:53 PM yea for general bodybuilding purpose cleans are not necessary although they do help strengthen the shoulder...so if you need to do them ...do it with your shoulder workout as the first exercise...just make sure you know what you're doing.... as Andrew suggested it could end badly if you don't know what you're doing... add in deadlifts as the first exercise with your back workout stiff legged deadlifts are a leg exercise...so do it with your leg day...to train hamstrings...
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/03/10, 02:45 AM i dont care about "body building" as of this point thats y i asked about cleans... are deads even a body building exercise?? anyway if i did a routine on here what exercise could i remove to add in cleans or substitute? ??
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/03/10, 09:58 AM take out up right rows......and do cleans if your going for strength gains....then why not do one of gators workouts? Are a powerlifting style routine? I have looked at the routines on here before.......they are good for getting in shape,bodybuilding etc.......however have a mild emphasis on actual strength gains. fromt he way menace looks, he has imcorperated bodybuilding and some strength gains.......ask him for suggestions. -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
	2005/03/10, 02:01 PM timm check out powerlifting forum to find a good workout with emphasis on strength gains... dave tate a fitness guru( who has Elite Fitness often brought up by gator...)....recently had an article in men's journal where he was talking about how average guys can take advantage of powerlifting workouts...you don't need to be a prototypical powerlifter....if you keep your diet in check.....you should see faster gains than those of a bodybuilding workout...(so don't up your calories significantly...otherwise you will gain significant amount of fat....typical of many powerlifters...)
	2005/03/10, 02:03 PM err powerlifting guru*
	2005/03/10, 02:21 PM Timms original question was on how to make the FT mass program work. It seems to me if you want to gain mass, then do a mass program for a time. When I said do one routine first and then the next, my idea was what the heck difference does it make? I've lifted for 30+ years. If I want to build mass I don't see the need to mix in a bunch of other exercises. It almost seems like younger newbies are looking for that ONE perfect workout that gives strength,mass,speed,cutting and whatever all at once. It just doesn't need to be this complicated. I'll be doing this until I die. Have patience. EAT, REST, LIFT. Thats it. The same thing applies to eating. Eating well will get you more gains than all the supplements in the world. Find out what works well for you and just do it. If you wanna be hard headed and mix your PWO shake with milk so be it. Do that for 6 months and check your gains. Then mix it with water for 6 months and see for yourself if there is a difference. Folks there aint no magic bullet or short cuts that works the same for everybody. Stick with it for decades and you'll know what works for you. -------------- Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!!!!!! Charlie