Group: General Diet & Nutrition

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MotherGoose
MotherGoose
Posts: 21
Joined: 2004/10/07
Canada
2004/10/08, 02:13 AM
Hi!

I'm wondering if this community could help me out with figuring out a good regime.

Let me introduce myself, before anything. I'm 18 years old (19 in January), and attending University (Mathematics if anybody is curious). I did competitive track and field (triple jump) with a team in Ottawa (Canada) for a few years, and most of my weight training revolved around that. I did, however, stop training competitively during my final year of high school.

I've always been small (~140 lbs, 5'7), but (with all modesty) incredibly strong for my weight. When I stopped doing competitive track, I was peaking at 450 lbs on the full squat, and I could pretty much max out any free weight machine with quad extensions. My upper body was not as well developped, though I could muster about 180 lbs bench at one point. Speed was always an issue, as was ab strength, so I did have very good ab strength, and could do 90+ good form pushups in a minute. (Oddly enough, I didn't have big muscles)

In about a years time, I've lost a bit of muscle mass (weirdly enough, I still have a 6-pack, but that seems to be all I have, lol). I'm not doing track anymore, but I want to put on some bulk, especially in my arms and upper body. I've been working out 3 times a week (MWF) at the University gym, where I have free access, and this is my current regime.

Horizontal Chess Presses*
90-95% max weight 8 reps * 3 sets
100% max weight 1 set, as many reps as possible

Preacher Bicep Curls
90-95% max weight, 8 reps * 3 sets
100% max weight 1 set, as many reps as possible

Forearm curls**
90-95% max weight, 8 reps * 3 sets
100% max weight 1 set, as many reps as possible

...and...that's it (so far)

So I've got two questions, one for my routine, one for nutrition:

Routine:
I've got about an hour to workout, that includes warmup. This should be ample time, as I have heard (and agree) that the most effective workouts are <30 minutes. My biggest concern is chest and forearms. Everything else is secondary. What other exercises can I do? How should I change my workout for the better? I don't enjoy the 'hardcore bodybuilder image' with gigantic muscles. The difference is between the image of a bodybuilder and the image of a world class sprinter, if you know what I mean.

Nutrition:
This is a standard Protein vs. Creatine question, as I'm running on a student's budget. I have heard that, when faced with choosing one or the other, protein is the way to go, although the two substances are not in direct competition, but compliment each other. I can spend some more for Creatine, but I'd rather not if the gains are not substantial.

What I mean is that, given my workout (3 days a week, relatively short), how effective will Creatine be? I have heard that it is extremely effective for those bodybuilders that work out a lot, so my guess would be that, since I'll only be modestly working out, the difference between creatine use and no creatine use in less intensive workouts will not be worth the cost.

*(not sure what these are called, resembles bench presses but sitting up on a 'chair')
**(barbell behind back, palm facing backwards, curled upwards)
bigandrew
bigandrew
Posts: 5,146
Joined: 2002/10/21
United States
2004/10/08, 12:24 PM
thats all you do?
I' m confused? You want a new work out? Evaluate this one? what?

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asimmer
asimmer
Posts: 8,201
Joined: 2003/01/07
United States
2004/10/08, 09:27 PM
Try one of the mass gain programs available here at ft!
There is a lot of info in the various message boards about dietary stuff and syupplements, do some searching.

Creatine will give you more energy for your workouts and facilitate recovery.

Protein will help you rebuild and recover...

Start with protein if it has to be one or the other - most people don't get enough protein.

Your workout is very imbalanced....

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"Achieving worthwhile goals requires a consistent investment of time and effort on your part....The rewards you receive will be in direct proportion to the consistent effort you put forth."
Brian Johnston, The Power of The Champions
Carivan
Carivan
Posts: 8,542
Joined: 2002/01/20
Canada
2004/10/08, 09:41 PM
Add in shoulders an triceps, at least you will be hitting all the upper body and will look in proportion. Forget the creatine and use supplemental protein if you need it.
Really can't figure out why you would just do chest biceps and fore arms though.

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Ivan
carivan@freetrainers.com
Montreal Canada
aleazar
aleazar
Posts: 35
Joined: 2003/09/13
United States
2004/10/09, 08:38 PM
If you have set up your account then you will have an exercise routine ready made for you. It will match your needs, goals and resources to make for some impressive gains. It will tell you how to balance your nutrition to get where you want to be. It will tell you how many carbs vs. fat vs. Protien. chack under fitness plan and nutrition plan above.

As for your supplement the best advice I've found here or elsewhere is to get one with whey protein and simple carbs. Drink this right after your workout. drink half then sip the rest for about 45 minutes. Then eat a good balanced meal with substantial protein an hour later. That is if your as cash strapped as I am.