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7707mutt
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2007/12/03, 03:05 PM
Ok then I am totaly lost
help me out bro! I am doing ME upper tomorrow, what do I do?

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

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Pemdas
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2007/12/03, 03:20 PM
I am going to assume that you are doing plain old bench as your ME movement. You hit 235 last week, so this week my goal would be 240. I know you want to try 245, but don't. Try 240 first.

45xwhatever
95x5
120x3
160x3
180x3
200x1
220x1
240x1

Now you can try 245 if things went well. If you hit 245 call it a day, if not drop down to 220 and 1 or 2 more singles.

Now for supplemental stuff. You are doing close grip on your de/re day, so we won't do them here.

Dips or DB press 4-5 sets Honestly, I don't get a good carry over from dips or any decline like pressing movement. I would use the DB presses. JM-Press is an option, but I don't like how it makes my elbows feel. Rack-lockouts or DB floor press are other options.

ONE back movement.

Shoulders - Shrugs, Face-Pulls...back of the shoulders

DONE...maybe some pushdowns or extensions if you want.






Pemdas
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2007/12/03, 03:25 PM
I think the biggest thing that you need to remember is you are NOT training body parts. You ARE training movement patterns.
7707mutt
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2007/12/04, 03:18 PM
DB presses as in flat bench or incline?

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

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Pemdas
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2007/12/04, 04:21 PM
Doesn't matter, I rotate them.
7707mutt
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2007/12/04, 04:23 PM
Ok
thanks man will update tonight after workout


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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

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7707mutt
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2007/12/05, 07:49 AM
I hit 240!!!!! on bench!

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

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Pemdas
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2007/12/05, 08:49 AM
Good work! I think that you can get away with one more week of flat bench, but then you are going to need to rotate movements.
7707mutt
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2007/12/05, 08:59 AM
That is my plan. I am on a 3 week cycle. SO after next week I will do probaly a Delt (presses) for my Upper ME movement.

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

7707mutt@freetrainers.com
arondaballer
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2007/12/05, 12:29 PM
If you haven't done standing DB overhead pressing in a while, I would strongly suggest it... It has been absolutely killin me lately...be great for your "core" and it's externally rotated on top of all that.

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7707mutt
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2007/12/05, 06:16 PM
Another thing I did last night was 3 sets of dips all for DRUMROLL---------10 reps! AND my ROM was deep as well! I am way happy!

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

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7707mutt
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2007/12/06, 09:51 AM
Ok fellas
here is the deal. I am sick and I am NOT lifting to night my ME lower night. I will be able to lift sat and sun so how would you go about schedulein that? Do ME lower sat and a combo deal for DE on Sun?


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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

7707mutt@freetrainers.com
Pemdas
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2007/12/06, 10:07 AM
I would probably just skip it and do some heavy singles on DE day after speed squats.
7707mutt
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2007/12/06, 10:35 AM
Skip ME ?

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

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Pemdas
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2007/12/06, 10:55 AM
yeah...if you are sick. There is nothing wrong with hitting some heavy singles on DE day once in a while especially if missed your ME day. Don't sweat it. You missed one day who cares.
7707mutt
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2007/12/07, 06:39 PM
Well sick took over called in sick to work so Lifting is out till next week

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

7707mutt@freetrainers.com
7707mutt
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2007/12/14, 09:24 AM
DId a ME lower tuesday that was killer. Also did ME upper last night. GOt a new pr on bench 245 and it went up easy!!!!! I also got a new shrug number. About a year or more I was just hitting 605-635 in shrugs. Yesterday I got 605x5 and 635x3!!!!! I am very happy

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

7707mutt@freetrainers.com
Pemdas
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2007/12/14, 10:00 AM
If it went up easy you should have gone for more. ME day is all about the strain. Strain is THE most important part of ME day. Nice lifting!
7707mutt
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2007/12/14, 10:23 AM
Yes I understand that
but the guy that I was having as my spotter left and there were only old guys there. LOL

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

7707mutt@freetrainers.com
2007/12/14, 10:57 AM
Nice job Scott. I agree with Pemdas - if it went up easy go for more. If it was easy how much help would you really need from the old guys? Keep pushing yourself. That is how you will break through the barriers.
7707mutt
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2007/12/14, 11:02 AM
I think I could have got 255-265. I wish now I had gone for it. BUT I really have a trust issues with spotters......it makes me weak if I do not trust them is that weird?

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

7707mutt@freetrainers.com
7707mutt
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2007/12/14, 11:09 AM
Here is another thing. Ever since my surgery i have been dealing with an issue related to training. That is, the latic acid pain. I have had it even before the surgery, but since then it is so bad I almost need a heavy duty pain killer......any thoughts on why that is so and or how to treat it now?

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

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Pemdas
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2007/12/14, 11:21 AM
I don't really get lactic acid pain unless I switch up my assistance work and even then I only get for the first week. I never get it from ME or DE stuff. However, you might want to consider some feeder workouts to help you recover. Something high rep like 20-25 high. For few sets. It can be really quick like 10-15 mins. You have bands now, so you could even use that and do it at home.
wrestler125
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2007/12/14, 11:22 AM
You're shrugging 2.5 times what you are pressing?

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7707mutt
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2007/12/14, 11:23 AM
Um yeah?

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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

7707mutt@freetrainers.com
2007/12/14, 12:07 PM
I dont think its weird, just an excuse not to push more. 265 is not that much weight for you and a spotter. How much help do you think you would need? You said you got 245 easy - that leaves 20lbs max for the guy to handle.

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Quoting from 7707mutt:

I think I could have got 255-265. I wish now I had gone for it. BUT I really have a trust issues with spotters......it makes me weak if I do not trust them is that weird?


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7707mutt
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2007/12/14, 12:12 PM
Not sure The week before I needed a bit of help with 240 so it sort of surprised me to nail 245 like i did
Oh well I will not find out for about 6 weeks, that is when I plan to hit flat bench as my ME exerices again


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As a quarter squatter was dominating the rack, I heard a conversation between an old powerlifter (easily in his 60\\'s) and what I would guess was his grandson (15-yrs old):

Kid: \\"So, why does he stop so short on his squats? That looks weird to me.\\"

Old PL\\'er: \\"He\\'s afraid if he squats deep, his vagina might touch the ground.\\"

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7707mutt
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2008/01/16, 09:22 AM
275x1 on GM not to bad for me only about 40lbs or so for my best ever....I did get a lot of stares, and one Living Brain Donor told me I was not squating right.....DUH it is not a squat.

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7707mutt@freetrainers.com
2008/01/16, 09:45 AM
Maybe my form sucks on GMs, but it seems strange to me that you can GM 275 and you squat around 340 and DL around 400. I am only basing this on my numbers, 350 Squat and 425 DL, so I may be way off base. How far do you go down?
7707mutt
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2008/01/16, 09:53 AM
Just above 90 degrees, meaning I am just above parallel. But I have GM over 340 in the past and have DL more than 400....so I dunno, why that is...

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now shes mine all mine
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7707mutt@freetrainers.com
2008/01/16, 10:30 AM
I was just looking over your log - your numbers confuse the hell out of me. For example, when you start with DL you have been right around 405x1. Your last workout you did DL and hit 365x2 AFTER 11 sets of GM with a PR and AFTER 7 sets of box squats with a PR. Then on the sixth set of DL you hit 365x2. Thats only 40lbs off where you have been.
wrestler125
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2008/01/16, 12:59 PM
His numbers confuse me too... I still don't understand how someone can shrug so much more than they can DL.

When are you going to stop making excuses and come train with us?

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7707mutt
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2008/01/16, 01:23 PM
Not going to you guys pick on me

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FOR MY WIFE:
Her little ring was a little thing
but it was all that i could afford
now shes mine all mine
till the day i die
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7707mutt
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2008/01/16, 01:25 PM
Besides I am not shruggin from the floor, just from the lower thighs is where I pick up from.

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FOR MY WIFE:
Her little ring was a little thing
but it was all that i could afford
now shes mine all mine
till the day i die
and i never wanted nothing more


7707mutt@freetrainers.com
2008/01/16, 01:26 PM
I hope someone stole your sign on and typed that.

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Not going to you guys pick on me


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wrestler125
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2008/01/16, 07:53 PM
Picking makes people stronger... now get out here and let us pick on you.



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2008/01/16, 08:39 PM
Hey Steve - come spring if you and Sean wouldnt mind I would like to make the trip from Albany and train with you guys.
7707mutt
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2008/01/17, 07:51 AM
I would like to train with ya....except sat are my "family" day LOL

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FOR MY WIFE:
Her little ring was a little thing
but it was all that i could afford
now shes mine all mine
till the day i die
and i never wanted nothing more


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Ravenbeauty
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2008/01/17, 11:38 AM
I know this is sort of off topic Scott, but I think it is way overdue some new photos of you and how you progressed.

How old are these pics again? Like 5 or 6 years?

I know that because they have been up since I started here way back when..lol.

:)

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7707mutt
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2008/01/17, 11:39 AM
I have new ones silly on my profile

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FOR MY WIFE:
Her little ring was a little thing
but it was all that i could afford
now shes mine all mine
till the day i die
and i never wanted nothing more


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Ravenbeauty
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2008/01/17, 11:40 AM
you should post one on here too...and I am not silly butthead. :)-

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Bettia

Life is all about timing... the unreachable becomes reachable, the unavailable become available, the unattainable... attainable. Have the patience, wait it out It is all about timing.
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7707mutt
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2008/01/17, 11:53 AM
I have tried it willnot change.

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FOR MY WIFE:
Her little ring was a little thing
but it was all that i could afford
now shes mine all mine
till the day i die
and i never wanted nothing more


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7707mutt
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2008/01/17, 02:03 PM
KA-there is always a spot for you on the couch at my home if you need a place to stay out here---free food too!

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FOR MY WIFE:
Her little ring was a little thing
but it was all that i could afford
now shes mine all mine
till the day i die
and i never wanted nothing more


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wrestler125
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2008/01/17, 09:48 PM
I may or may not be here for the spring. I'll be up for at least one weekend (the strongman meet I'm hosting) but might not be in the area. Otherwise, you're welcome to join...

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Hey Steve - come spring if you and Sean wouldnt mind I would like to make the trip from Albany and train with you guys.
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wrestler125
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2008/01/17, 09:49 PM
And Sunday? How bout Monday night? Thursday? Friday?

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Quoting from 7707mutt:

I would like to train with ya....except sat are my "family" day LOL


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7707mutt
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2008/01/18, 07:52 AM
I hit 265x1 on bench!!!! Took 275 off the rack and down touched and got about half way before my spotter helped.

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FOR MY WIFE:
Her little ring was a little thing
but it was all that i could afford
now shes mine all mine
till the day i die
and i never wanted nothing more


7707mutt@freetrainers.com
Pemdas
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2008/01/18, 02:06 PM
Sweet man! You will have the quarter in no time.
7707mutt
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2008/01/18, 02:12 PM
If I had not let the first 265 try get away I would have had the 275 last night.

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FOR MY WIFE:
Her little ring was a little thing
but it was all that i could afford
now shes mine all mine
till the day i die
and i never wanted nothing more


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