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2004/08/11, 07:15 PM
I usually drink about a gallon of %1 milk every 3 days. Is that to much? Could there be any side effects?
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2004/08/12, 09:43 AM
Too much of anything can be a bad thing, however IMO, 1/3 of a gallon of low fat milk per day isn't anything near excessive. It still is one of the single most important foods for someone to consume (assuming they aren't lactose intolerant).
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2004/08/13, 09:25 AM
One more thing about milk - There are many, many animal rights fanatics that desperately want to discredit milk as being one of the most unhealthy things someone can consume, but they are never able to point to a single scientific study that supports their position.
So they use inane arguments such as 'humans are the only species to consume milk into and past adolescence there it must be bad for you' According to that thinking we should discontinue using gymnasiums, all sports activities, doing research in health and other technologies etc...
Another argument they use is "Cow's milk is bad for you because it comes from a non-human source" This is a ridiculuous statement because ALL foods we eat come from non-human sources unless we are wet nursing or are cannibals.
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2004/08/13, 09:33 AM
totally right.
i´ve hear too that too much milk can cause you cancer and debilitate your bones, because of the calcium.
this is not true. and 1/3 of a gallon pero day is fine. it is not that much. i drink 6-7 glasses of 1% milk per day and nothin has happening this pass 5 years
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2004/08/13, 02:19 PM
i hear goats milk is better for you than cows milk because it is closer to human milk (ie it gives people who might be lactose intolerant less trouble than cow milk)
if you are still growing then you should drink at least 3 glasses a day to get your calcium.
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2004/08/13, 03:18 PM
You got that right bobo.
A classic quote from Arnold: "milk is for babies."
I'd find an alternative to drinking cow's milk and get your calcium from a better source.
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2004/08/13, 07:28 PM
last I herd kakaroto calicum builds stronger bones, even fda says that. Where you get this from?
I wonder if they eve rmake breast milk in a can?? lol
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2004/08/14, 05:15 PM
lol at breast milk in can. I saw some japanese TV show on tarrant on tv where women were making some sort of pancake with their breast milk.
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2004/08/14, 11:34 PM
To complete the Arnold quote: "Milk is for babies. When you grow up you have to drink beer." We all know how effective beer is while training, and that Arnold was far from a health-conscious natural bodybuilder. Keep drinking the milk unless the sugar does not fit into your diet. Otherwise, cottage cheese or whey protein is better.
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2004/08/19, 10:17 PM
I personally am not a big fan of soy, especially for men. Soy is linked over and over to increased estrogen levels, and men, this is quite the opposite of what we want!
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Quoting from yogiponappa:
Ursusarktos, picking up on something you mentioned:
"As for soy products in general, they've been linked with an array of negative health issues."
What are these issues? I'm curious to know this, coz it might mean I need to restructure some of my diet while school's on. Thanks!
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2004/08/17, 10:38 PM
Do you (or anhybody else) have any actual research to support the argument against cow's milk? If so, lets hear it. A partial quote from The Guv'ner will not, IMO, provide the necessary info to design a well thought out nutritional program.
For the vast majority of people who can easily digest lactose and have no other milk - related allergies, it only makes sense to drink plenty of milk. For those who are lactose intolerant, it is important to find an adequate alternative whether it be goats milk or Lactaid or whatever.
Eating more broccoli & cauliflower just won't cut it, nor will soy milk. While broccoli & cauliflower are great fooods in their own right, and contain calcium, the human body simply does not absorb calcium from this source very well. As for soy products in general, they've been linked with an array of negative health issues.
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Quoting from ageis:
You got that right bobo.
A classic quote from Arnold: "milk is for babies."
I'd find an alternative to drinking cow's milk and get your calcium from a better source.
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2004/08/18, 11:32 AM
thats why millk is fortified with vitamen D correct? Its a carrier of calicum and makes it absorb better.
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any guy can hold a girl by the hand, but only the select few can hold her by her feet!
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2004/08/18, 10:40 PM
Yup. The vitamin D fortification in milk is a bit of a safeguard in case their is a deficiency from the rest of the diet.
Assuming that calcium & vit. D intake is adequate, the biggest factor (by far) that will determine one's bone mineral density (as well as bone architecture) is loading of the bones. In other words heavy weight-low rep regimens are the key to building strong bones. This has been shown in all age groups.
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2004/08/19, 04:58 PM
When arnold said milk is for babies..........I guess he forgot to say... stop eating like babies, every 2-3 hours. Couldn't resist that one.
DRINK MILK!
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Montreal Canada
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2004/08/19, 10:29 PM
While it is true that Vit. D(along with magnesium((and guess what milk has none of??)) and phosphorus) aid in calcium absorbtion, most folks are way under the optimal amounts of Vit. D. Especially folks who shy away from the sun. Vit. D is important for so many reasons, one which we all on this board can apply is strengthening of muscles. The typical 400I.U. recomendations is way under optimal. Some other results from deficiency are many forms of cancer, High blood pressure, Depression, Multiple sclerosis
and Rheumatoid arthritis.
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Quoting from ursusarktos:
Yup. The vitamin D fortification in milk is a bit of a safeguard in case their is a deficiency from the rest of the diet.
Assuming that calcium & vit. D intake is adequate, the biggest factor (by far) that will determine one's bone mineral density (as well as bone architecture) is loading of the bones. In other words heavy weight-low rep regimens are the key to building strong bones. This has been shown in all age groups.
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2004/08/19, 11:15 PM
The health benefits/risks of soy protein has become a very controversial topic recently with various studies giving conflicting results. Recently the U.S. FDA gave its approval to soy marketers to state that soy consumption has been associate with a reduced risk of heart disease.
Of course this is the same government organisation that has pushed hydogenated vegetable oil products, synthetic sweeteners and most recently approved sythetic fat (olestra). Olestra has been shown to impede absorption of the fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, & K). I truly believe this will be an huge public health disaster in the coming years for Americans.
Getting back to soy products, there is quite a bit of info suggesting that soy protein has a rather dark side. While I'm sure that some of this info may be flawed or somewhat reactionary, it is certainly food for though before diving head first into a vat of tofu. By the way tofu can taste good if it is deep fried in bacon grease. :big_smile:
Here are some sites worth looking at;
www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soydownsides/
www.mercola.com/article/soy/index.htm#
www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/
www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASf8/856.html
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Quoting from yogiponappa:
Ursusarktos, picking up on something you mentioned:
"As for soy products in general, they've been linked with an array of negative health issues."
What are these issues? I'm curious to know this, coz it might mean I need to restructure some of my diet while school's on. Thanks!
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