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less repetitions heavier wieghts?

Kasper
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2003/01/11, 06:04 AM
hey guys if I do less reps but add more wieght on my curls, benche's, etc...workouts will i get faster results?
Carivan
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2003/01/11, 11:21 AM
Kasper ....there is no fast way to the pot of gold!
What that will do is make you beefyer, if that is what you want. But not quicker.

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chris789
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2003/01/11, 12:08 PM
That approach will get you stronger 'faster'. But, as carivan said, there is no shortcut or fast way. Also, make sure that if your target reps are like 6, don't do an amount in which you can do 9 or 10. Make sure you push yourself.
Kasper
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2003/01/12, 04:52 AM
carivan waht do u mean by quicker?
bb1fit
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2003/01/12, 11:09 AM
kasper...adding weight is always something you should strive to do. The stronger you get, it only stands to reason, the heavier weight you can use. The heavier weight you can use, the more stress/overload you can put on the muscle, so the more growth you can expect. This is not an overnight process, but it is a time proven one. Keep your rep range around 6, if you can do 6 with no problem, then the weight needs to be increased. If you can only do 3-4, you may drop back a bit. Do this for 4-6 weeks. If you do not start to experience strength increases/growth, you may be a predominately slow tiwitch fiber person and have to add some super sets of light weight to stimulate those fibers. You need to find the workout that fits you. Not all can grow from the same workout. Good luck.

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Carivan
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2003/01/12, 11:17 AM
I guess us canadians talk funny eh?! "Quicker" as in "faster results" :)
Kasper
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2003/01/12, 06:56 PM


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Quoting from bb1fit:

kasper...adding weight is always something you should strive to do. The stronger you get, it only stands to reason, the heavier weight you can use. The heavier weight you can use, the more stress/overload you can put on the muscle, so the more growth you can expect. This is not an overnight process, but it is a time proven one. Keep your rep range around 6, if you can do 6 with no problem, then the weight needs to be increased. If you can only do 3-4, you may drop back a bit. Do this for 4-6 weeks. If you do not start to experience strength increases/growth, you may be a predominately slow tiwitch fiber person and have to add some super sets of light weight to stimulate those fibers. You need to find the workout that fits you. Not all can grow from the same workout. Good luck.


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thanks for the feed back man u sure know ur stuff i will try that hopefully i get better results in a month.
maab
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2003/01/13, 10:38 AM
Hello,
bb1fit: do you mind to explain "super sets of light weight"...?
Thank you
bb1fit
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2003/01/13, 06:35 PM
This is to hit the slow twitch fibers. Once the fast twitch are completely worn out from an adequately heavy exhaustion set, they can no longer do anything. The idea then is to do an immediate set with light weight, the slow twitch fibers having to do the work due the others being thouroughly exhausted. This way you hit most all your muscle fibers, thus producing growth. Trust me, this is an intense workout, but works great. Example, heavy cheat curls for 6-8 reps till you have to get help with the last one. Have a light dumbbell right by, and as soon as you drop the ez curl bar, start the dumbell concentration curls for 10-12. Switch off starting arms each time.

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Kasper
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2003/01/14, 10:09 PM
hey how do i know if i'm a predominant slow twitch fiber person?
Kasper
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2003/01/17, 09:53 PM
bump
bb1fit
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2003/01/17, 10:08 PM
kasper...in answer to your question, quoting from Charles Poliquin, famed trainer and strength guru....here is your answer

Assuming you’ve trained for more than 3
months and are over the initial jump in strength gains, find your
maximum amount for a specified lift or movement. (That’s a
one-rep max or 1RM- editor). Wait 10 minutes and then use 85%
of that max and do as many reps as you can. The "normal"
person will average 5 reps, meaning that they have a normal
distribution of fast, intermediate, and slow-twitch fibers. But a
fast-twitch individual will go as low as 2 reps and a predominantly
slow-twitch person will go from 12-20 reps. World-class rowers
can do as many as 12 reps at 97% of their 1RM.

How does this apply to bodybuilding?

Charles Poliquin: It helps prevent those uniform training
programs where the guy next to you is making huge gains while
you’re not. For most people and in most muscle groups, a rep
range of 9-12 reps is optimal for hypertrophy (muscular size)
gains. But if you have significantly more fast-twitch muscle fiber there, you’ll need to work at a
lower rep range for more size, and vice versa.
Kasper
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2003/01/20, 10:53 PM
bb1fit can u tell me how many sets I should do?
nathan84
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2007/01/10, 10:48 PM
That's good info bb1fit:dumbbell:
SFGiantsMVP
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2007/01/11, 06:34 PM
I think BB1's posts in here should be copied and reposted and stickied.

I will be doing this starting next week on Chest and Tris Bench has always been my weakness and hardest to gain strength on.
SFGiantsMVP
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2007/01/11, 11:06 PM
Going to do it with Tri's tomorrow as well!

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SFGiantsMVP
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2007/01/12, 08:15 PM
Holy Crap did I burn up my Tri's today.

Weighted Dips Heavy and Super Seted Pulldown then heavy on the Scull Crushers.

God I love this sport there are to many ways to change things up to keep the shock going!

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Santor0730
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2007/10/11, 01:44 AM
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,

I started my day 1 last Monday. My question is the following:

SET# Repetitions Weight
1 20 10
2 12 20
3 10 30
4 8 40
In set #2 am i supposed to do 2 sets of 12 repetitions or just 1 set? Thank you in advanced!
7707mutt
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2007/10/11, 07:55 AM
NO the "2" means set 2 out of 4 so you do one set of 12 reps

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