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asimmer
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2005/06/10, 09:40 AM
This is from the Dave Draper e-newsletter I get weekly - just thought you all might find it really informative!


1 - Draper here. Training Over 40

I have a friend, Mui Tsun, who writes fitness material for health mags and
the internet. She's currently writing a book on bodybuilding for the
over-40 gang and asked me for my point of view.

Yes, bombers, somehow the secret got out: I'm over 40. But that doesn't
mean I've had it, I'm over the hill, all washed up, finished, kaput or a
mere silver sliver of the Blond Bomber I once was. With the aid of a cane
and Laree, my assistant, I'm able to get about the gym for a pretty hefty
workout. I love those big rubber balls.

Anyhoo... here's a review of the most frequently asked questions collected
by the author, Mui, and the dazzling answers contributed by this dashing
young writer, moi.

Let 'er rip...

Q. As a man over 40, have I lost the ability to "grow"? I continue to
train, but the "packing it on" stage seems to have left me. I lift about
the same weight. In fact, a bit more, but the growth (size) doesn't seem
to come.

A. Two truths should be revisited and underscored at this point: that's
life and everyone is different. A third truth can be added: 40 to 50 are
still very good growth years.

"That's life" tells us we do slow down in our muscular growth as we age.
Yet, if the basic training precepts are followed -- workout consistency,
hard training, smart eating and plenty of rest and relaxation -- muscular
size, shape and quality can be improved perceptibly into our 60s. "That
everyone is different" -- genetics, health, training acumen, drive,
toughness and such -- tells us some will flourish more than others. Some
will flounder.

Sufficient exercise will keep one in shape. Swell. Those who are suited to
progress as they age need to be aggressive with their training, while at
once retaining commonsense, care and attentiveness to overtraining and
system abuse.

Finesse, passion and creativity are three major qualities that determine
and assure a trainee's continued distinct advancement. They separate the
ordinary from the special.

Certain muscles that have not been overtrained or training-saturated --
rear delts, forearms, lower lats, thighs -- can surprise us and respond
especially well to specific exercises, and restore our confidence and
delight in training and growing.

Finally, the over-40 lifter must be careful not to be dominated or
intimidated by the over40 rhetoric. It is specious, spurious and insidious
with tentacles reaching the subconscious that defeat him before he's 41.

Q. I am 49 and have just started bodybuilding. My biggest question is what
will my skin look like once I am built? Like most my age, my skin is
starting to sag. Will building help tighten it or will it just sag over my
muscles?

A. The same two truths mentioned above need to be reviewed.

The skin generally will benefit from the physical stimulation and the
circulation of life-giving blood offering nutrients and oxygen to its
tissues. Furthermore, system detoxification and its positive affect on the
body accompany hearty weight-bearing exercise. The skin is not the least
of the benefactors to this welcome gain. Health is improving before your
eyes.

Added muscle and tone from your bodybuilding can be expected to swell
within the skin and improve the age-related looseness. On the other hand,
the loss of excess fat might counter the skin-tightening effect of the
muscle. Don't despair.

Remember this: If skin tone and wrinkles are the primary interests in your
bodybuilding quest, you might become disappointed and miss the grander
acquirements of the lifting experience. Given time, everything improves.
More often than not, most of the improvements are not what you anticipated
or sought: inner character strength, systemic health, bone density,
fortified immune system, balanced hormonal activity, improved blood-fats
and blood-sugars, and a general glow and structural rightness you're too
close to see... and more are on the list.

Q. How long does it take to start losing the muscle you have gained, i.e.
when off for sickness or unable to get to the gym to train for a period?

A. This depends on the quantity and quality and maturity of the muscle you
carry on your frame, and on your genetic background. Those fortunate
trainees who are predisposed to natural muscle development will lose
muscle slowly. Sound muscle mass is basic to their structure. Those, like
most of us, who train hard for every quivering tissue lose muscle more
readily. Stay strong. Do not fret.

Lifters having dedicated several years to serious muscle building often
experience minor muscle loss in the first two to four weeks of forced
layoff. The tissues lose their general fullness and fitness from lack of
use and stimulation, a cause of undue depression, but regain vitality in
several intelligent workouts.

Unscheduled layoffs should be and often can be avoided. Make every effort
to assure training consistency, even if partial workouts or fewer workouts
per week substitute your full training regimen. One missed workout leads
to another and another and you fall into a training gap that is hard to
recall. Smart training sessions modified to accommodate special
circumstances, minor illness or injury work wonders to carry you along the
crooked way. Be creative. Be steady.

Q. I am a 47-year-old bodybuilder and have been working out on and off
since my teens. Are the older bodybuilder's protein requirements the same
as for a younger bodybuilder? Or are they less than younger bodybuilders'
due to the slower metabolism that comes with age?

A. I suggest musclebuilders of all stages and ages accentuate their
protein intake to assure muscle development and tissue repair. The muscle
you've achieved over the years and your spirited efforts to continue to
grow hard and strong depend on a plentiful supply of those amino acids.

As the metabolism is not firing away as it did as a kid, it follows that
the system is not as efficient at absorbing and utilizing amino acids to
satisfy our bright and hopeful needs. The overall volume of food intake
might require down adjustment, but let's keep the protein high, the
nutrient-packed carbs and the good fats fortified with essential fatty
acids medium. Get stronger every day.

Note: Protein is not toxic; you can't get too much and certain amino acids
combine to provide energy.

Q. Is it to old to compete when you're in the 40s?

A. Not if one wants to compete and assesses oneself worthy of the effort
and display. Folks compete successfully into their 60s, 70s, 80s at
lifting and physique contests arranged for their age group. Some of our
best champion bodybuilders have amazed audiences with their fine
development in their mid-40s and 50s.

Q. How can I make my face look as young and powerful as my body?

A. A strong visage often comes from the look of authentic confidence that
accompanies training and the qualities one acquires through the training
process. Strength in back, the courage to gain it and the humility knowing
someone around the corner is stronger and bigger exudes a powerful and
impressive glow of its own.

I've heard of facial isometric and isotonic exercises, but have not seen a
program outlined or demonstrated. You could design your own routine with a
little creativity -- cheek-crunching and jaw-stretching and eye-widening
for x sets of x reps every other day for 15 minutes. I really doubt these
are worth the time and effort. Just think of the tense facial expressions
(exercises, essentially) we make throughout a tough workout or within any
given day. Our faces should be ripped.

Leanness, a goal of bodybuilding, is eventually realized in the face,
accentuating the bone structure and often translating into a rugged look.
Seek leanness through hard training and right eating.

In other words: Train hard, eat right and look tough.

Q. How do I begin exercise safely over 40 without risking health and
unnecessary strain?

A. The best way is to be a kid again... with an adult brain. Revive your
curiosity, playful spirit and willingness to jump right in without painful
self-consciousness and binding pride. Have fun and trust in your efforts.
This doesn't mean make a fool of yourself or charge forward with unbridled
eagerness. It means use your energy, enthusiasm, heart and commonsense.

There are different ways to begin your over-40 training program. You can
power-walk in your neighborhood daily. As you are able, go longer
distances and add jogging to your walking regimen. Learn and practice
simple rules of smart eating behavior and consider future training plans
that include resistance exercise.

Join a gym, hire a knowledgeable personal trainer for three basic sessions
and apply his or her teaching regularly. Continue your wise investment,
knowing time and consistency will certainly bring you to your fitness
goals.

Training and eating right are not rocket sciences, and instincts, sound
thinking and simple observation will guide you along the way. Safe and
wise steps will unfold. Eventually, you'll know yourself and your limits
and have the will and means to surpass them. Risk and strain and the
over-40 mentality will evaporate like steam from an old kettle on a
potbelly stove.

Q. What is the most important muscle group to work after 40? I think it
may be the legs since that is what hurts me the most.

A. You don't want to neglect any muscle group and it's true, legs get us
from place to place and contribute to our independence.

Something else: A decent leg workout provides systemic benefits. That is,
due to the mass of the muscles under load and the vast amount of blood
moved through the system, comprehensive enzyme and hormone activity takes
place and the entire muscular system is urged to respond, to grow,
accordingly.

Bingo. Leg training hits the jackpot.

Throw in some supersets -- chins and dips, dumbbell inclines and seated
lat rows, bench presses and lat pulldowns to keep a grin on your face.

Q. Reducing body fat, losing lower abdomen fat and maintaining lean mass
whilst cutting: How do I do it? I need single figure bodyfat percentage to
show my abs off.

A. Have you tried chanting to Zeus?

This small miracle requires lots of time, patience, courage and
perseverance mixed generously with leg raises, rope tucks, crunches and
hyperextensions and a tad of aerobic exercise. Of course, the perfect
application of your basic musclebuilding movements from squats and
deadlifts to barbell curls and dumbbell inclines are a must. Don't forget
to combine volume- and power-training sufficiently. There'll be no turning
back, letting up or laying off... ever.

Now, about your eating habits and nutritional plan: Start with slabs of
protein, smaller meals frequently throughout the day... mmm... Why don't
you have a seat, sit back and relax... it might be the last chance you
get.

Q. Can you ever get rid of cellulite on arms and body by doing aerobic
activity every day and lifting weights? Right now it seems like the more
I work out, the more 'baggy" my arms are getting, yet I know I am getting
stronger. Does this stuff really go away if one works out hard and long
enough on a daily basis?

A. Let's just say that no other plan of attack will work better... or at
all. You face a monumental problem, if the loose skin on the back of your
arms becomes your only focus and reference for achievement. Your regular
smart training and right eating will continue to improve your health day
by day. Be confident of this.

Building muscle is your most important achievement. Train to build muscle
and fat burning will follow. Sometimes training intensity has to be
increased if one wants to see more impressive improvements take place.
Where moderate exercise is healthy, it might not be enough to affect the
changes you seek. You might consider increasing your set-to-set pace or
the amount of weight you use in each exercise or the level of input in
each set and rep. Supersetting exercises is a most effective training
method for muscle building and fat burning. Try HIIT-style aerobic
training (High Intensity Interval Training) for more dynamic fat burning
and cardio health.

Keep your training fresh and interesting, but don't change it too often.
Never give in, never give up.

That's all she wrote, skydivers. And I've been over-40 barely 23 years.
Youth is a good old friend, musclemakers; never let him go.

Go with God's speed... Kid Draper from Secaucus

bb1fit
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2005/06/29, 10:03 AM
Nice post Amy! I read Dave all the time. This is a good one.

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hardnfit
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2005/07/28, 03:23 PM
thanks'

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Velasca
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2007/04/08, 09:41 AM
well..i was just about to ask a bunch of questions for my husband but they were pretty much answered right here..always good to read the stickies first..lol...thx asimmer :)
vadwear
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2007/09/12, 06:16 AM
That was great reading.. thanks!

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koya1893
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2008/04/02, 07:36 AM
My new client of 54 year old woman would appreciate this great reading. thank you. wonderful thread.
INTRUDER
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2008/07/17, 12:36 AM
good stuf'

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scottytaz
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2010/09/04, 11:51 AM
im also over forty but a complete beginner so its good to know that all is not lost for me as itry to get fit after a kidney transplant:)

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Phdgh
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2012/01/06, 07:26 AM
Hi to all I am 51 and about 6 months ago I got really serious about my health starting eating healthy and training didnt wanna "curl up and die" now I am starting to feel great looking for a workout plan on this site. Need tp lose body fat and build muscle any suggestions?
Ravenbeauty
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2012/01/06, 10:52 AM
Welcome Phdgh,

At the top of the page click on the "Exercise" this will take you to the exercise programs we have available here.  Just answer the questions on there or select the options you want for your workout and it will create a program for you.  This program can be tracked in "My Calendar" where you have optional exercises for each muscle group you can choose from. 

Good luck and let us know if you have any other questions.

RB
nomad09
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2012/01/18, 11:31 AM
Hello everyone, I just got back into this.  Having 11 grandchildren I want to be around (healthy of course) for a while.  Still like tossing the football with them.  I live in the Jersey area so be helpful to have a work out partner,but that will come.    I started a program and is working good.   I was 5'11 245lbs,  now down to 236lbs.  Gaining size and losing weight what a combo.

Here comes the question  I see a lot of protein drinks for post workout.  Some of the protein content states anywhere from 20 to 70 grams.   How much is effective to be downing after a workout and how much is overkill?  I heard (not reliable source) different opinions that body will separate too much protein. 

Anyone offer some insight?


Thanks..
2012/01/18, 12:22 PM
I don't use the protein supplements for a number of reasons. Some protien supplements are loaded with sweeteners. You need to read labels and measure carefully. A protein supplement that measures 35 grams of protein per scoop is a good benchmark. Also look carefully at the fat content.



Any kind of high protein snack post workout is good. I prefer to eat something be it turkey, tuna, cottage cheese, walnuts etc. Moderation is the key.
nomad09
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2012/01/18, 02:10 PM
Always looking at fats,sugar,sodium, etc  just wondering why someone would need so much protein (40-70) per serving?   I can not see how the body would absorb.
I like the drink right after because of the wonderful NJ traffic we have here.  Sometime it takes an hour to go three miles home.
2012/01/18, 02:59 PM
You can just use less if it's a powder. As to why so much, remember the supplement people are trying to sell supplement. I don't think you can absorb that much protein in one shot. I think that 35 grams post workout is about all your body can absorb.

Here is a more in depth look at protein requirements.

http://www.freetrainers.com/c/nutrition/protein_fats_carbohydrates/

If the supplement doesn't bump your calories or fats up too much it probably wont hurt you but you will just pass what your body can't use. Hopefully they will have the search engine up before long. This has been a much discussed subject over the years. You are absolutely correct in that ingesting protein ASAP  post workout is best.
Warfulpiece
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2018/04/16, 08:59 AM
From what I understand , losing fat and building muscle shouldn’t be attempted at the same time.because they require two different diets(beginner gains is the exception where both can be possible for a short duration