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Dead lift vs. Clean sweep

mengsk Posts: 54 Joined: 2003/10/31	2005/01/25, 06:57 PM Anyways I was having a talk with my football coach and he said that the Clean Sweep is the most important lift, and ive always thought deadlift. Can anyone help me?
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2005/01/25, 07:27 PM Most important lift for what? Overall strength, mass, explosive power, et, etc? -------------- Michael 100% AMMONIA SNORTIN, ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASS FAILING, BIG IRON LOVIN, FACE SLAPPIN, HEAVY METAL LISTENIN, CHALK CLOUD MAKIN, GUM BLEEDIN, SCABBY-SHINNED, LEATHER PALMED, BLOOD-SHOT EYED, KNEE WRAP WEARIN, RIP IT UP OFF THE FLOOR, DO OR DIE TRYIN, FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION, BAR BENDIN POWERLIFTER. You got a problem with that?
mengsk Posts: 54 Joined: 2003/10/31	2005/01/25, 07:33 PM Over all strength
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/01/26, 02:31 PM clean sweep.....I take it thats from floor to overhead? -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/01/26, 05:31 PM wouldn't that be a snatch. It cant be that important as I haven't even heard of it. I'd say the parallel squat, even though I use a front squat more because its more specific to wrestling, and most of my squatting is on boxes. but theres other posts on this subject. -------------- Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even. steve
mengsk Posts: 54 Joined: 2003/10/31	2005/01/26, 08:15 PM yeah thats what they call them at my school in canada. ============ Quoting from bigandrew: clean sweep.....I take it thats from floor to overhead? =============
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/01/26, 09:06 PM I would think for overall strength dl or a squat.......but for exploson and speed clean would take it.......kinda like comparing apples and oranges. -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
	2005/01/26, 09:18 PM yes snatch is most correlated with success in explosive strength/power....power cleans/hang cleans are used more widely because the form is easier to learn...a while ago I read for example that snatch is 76% correlated with jumping for example vs 55% with squat and 60something with clean/jerk.... snatch teaches your whole body to work in unison to generate as much power as you can... deadlift on the other hand still is very effective and can be even more beneficial because you're able to use more weight....thus strengthening your lower back, hamstrings, hips, and core
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/01/28, 01:10 PM "The best way to get faster is by getting stronger. Who is going to be able to Squat 300lbs with more velocity? An athlete with a 320lb squat or the athlete with the 850lb squat? The answer is obvious if you make the discrepancy severe. So before you lie down on the bench again and, like monotonous factory work, bench-press your eight sets of three with whatever percentage you use, it may be wise to ask the following questions of yourself." Quoted from Aaron DiPrima on elitefts.com Sort of like apples and oranges, but its still all fruit. Although I do have a particular disdain for that term. "the best excercise." best for what? -------------- Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even. steve
arondaballer Posts: 1,054 Joined: 2003/06/14	2005/01/28, 10:38 PM It depends on what position you play. A lineman's most important exercise is probly the squat, where as a wide receiver's most important moves would probly be olympic lifts, plyos, SAQs, sprints or something. -------------- I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle-victorious. --Vince Lombardi "Decide what you want, decide what you are willing to exchange for it. Establish your priorities and go to work." H. L. Hunt
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/01/31, 09:17 PM He menace, let me know if you remember the source of that information. It would be an interesting read. -------------- Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even. steve
mengsk Posts: 54 Joined: 2003/10/31	2005/02/01, 07:44 PM Thanks for the comments
	2005/02/01, 09:24 PM werestler I think I got it out of men's fitness.....i am sure they were quoting some other source....they had like a table and those stats....I could try to google it
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2005/02/03, 10:31 AM Lineman also need to be fast off the ball. Cleans and squats are important for ALL football players. Lifting for football is similar across the board. The real difference is in the conditioning and agility plan.
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/02/03, 10:35 AM welcome back gator ... been missing ya input -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2005/02/03, 10:36 AM Thanks!